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My sincerest apologies for my post humus shit talking against him. I know I wasn't the only one, and I don't know exactly what I said, but I held him in contempt for basically doing the same things that I've done on at times on the internet. Instigating, trolling, trying to win, being stupid etc. He died, and right then it was over. He had no ability to defend himself, and despite how I felt, I should have gotten over it or not bothered commenting. Many people loved him dearly and I hate to think that I soured their grief even more. I'm sorry for our loss. |
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If he'd still be alive he'd probably tell you you're being a bitch. No I do. I miss Jivver. :/ |
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*Now |
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What goDel says, but at the same time, it doesn't hurt to recognise that sometimes we go a bit beyond the trolling *for the lulz* into darker territory. I am very guilty of that. But in jivver's case, I don't think he ever lost any sleep over whatever someone said about him on here, nor gave it a solitary thought when he wasn't logged in. Anybody who knew the hilarious, generous, down-to-earth-despite-being-a-music-legend bloke behind "jivverdicker" misses him greatly. |
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nonsense. he's too dead to be trolled, now, but there's no reason his death can't be used to troll the living |
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Autism. Liberals kind of try to make a virtue of it, like it's some kind of "innocence", but it really is a fucking crippling affliction. |
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you get a lot of people saying they are autistic nowadays when they quite clearly aren't, I knew a severely autistic kid, it definitely wasn't a positive personality trait |
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Exactly. My brother has Aspergers, but really. And then you hear you people say things like "Ooohhh, I never understood why I didn't fit in with everyone and felt awkward in social situations, and then I was diagnosed as having Aspergers and, Golly!, it's such a relief, I accept my difference". My brother would be utterly incapable of that sort of self-reflection, at least verbally to be able to kind of distance yourself from how he is and comment on it in some breezy manner. He functions perfectly well, he works with the Post, likes order, likes things to stay the same, ... not a great conversationalist :P He feels, very deeply, but struggles to express verbally. I wind him up going "Name a type of bird, go on, name a bird"... and he really kind of has to force himself to commit to naming a bird (which is how I see it). He likes it, I'm not being mean, I can make him laugh. But, totally, on one hand we're all on the spectrum, I know I am, but.. it has become a thing to say "Hey, you know what? I'm an autistic, that's why I am no fun and self-centred" which, I don't believe a truly autistic person would be capable of saying. |
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One spooky thing was, years ago when we were kids, I did that thing where you have cards with symbols on, I think you have like 6 or so, to test for psychic powers - so I'd pick one and get him to guess, and he got WELL OVER THE ODDS for picking correctly. There was also a ready-reckoner in the back of an atlas we had, with the distances between cities - you picked two cities, goddamn if he couldn't tell you the distance between them (without looking, obviously). |
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its become a weirdly fashionable thing to say, one of my girlfriends mates was telling me she was autistic, she outgoing as fuck and is in no way autistic. As you say most people who are autistic/Asperger's don't have that level of self reflection or need to label themselves, actually most of the time they are oblivious. I don't know why it goes on nowadays, This woman was saying that I might be autistic, and I was saying, my doctor might have thought I am, but I said I don't actually think I am, as ive met someone who is properly autistic, and it was profound how life altering it is. |
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autistic peoples brains work very different, he is probably some sort of savant in a way, very proficient in certain areas, but deficient in others |
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Exactly. The secret service uses autistics, they can be brilliant, spot patterns in seemingly random things, but just don't ask one to make you a cup of tea or do the washing up. The mother of my child was terrified that our son was autistic because of my brother, and bought all these books and took him to doctors when he was a toddler, convinced he was autistic. He's not fucking REMOTELY autistic, if anything he's over emotional, over empathetic, over verbose. But I know she still kind of thinks he might be. It really upsets me. The fact she has books in that house with titles like "Learning to be different" or some shit - that's fucking abuse in my book. Of course I'm the BAD person because I drink on weekdays... ANYHOO :P |
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I know what your getting at, their is this cultural thing of identifying or labelling people nowadays, for 99% of the time its unhelpful and diverts resources from people who really need it |
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its a weird middle class thing of progressive parents with too much time and guilt on their hands |
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i used to spot patterns in seemingly random things all the time when i was in my sickest moment. i had the same vague impression before, of having been hit by several mental disorders during a gradual span of time, not just one, and this thread confirms the ongoing reconsideration of things. |
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i am guilty of having asked xltronic if i was autistic once, i think i wanted to feel special or something, back to the times when mental diseases were fancy and everybody wanted to have sinaesthesia or something |
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my mother's death has been just the last drop, into an already full jar |
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i definitely, and thanks god not irreversibly started tripping in 6 the months that cancer killed her |
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aint no shit when a loved one gets paranoid, im pretty crude and direct, bursting them fucking bubbles before they get too big. on the other hand, hated ones can stick to paranoia because i dont fucking care, and if they're bastards i secretly take pleasure from it |
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The mother of my child was terrified that our son was autistic because of my brother, and bought all these books and took him to doctors when he was a toddler, convinced he was autistic. He's not fucking REMOTELY autistic, if anything he's over emotional, over empathetic, over verbose. hello |
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What signeduptolol said. I rem once asking him if he was ok after some cunts decided to reveal his private life here. He was totally ok about it. “It’s fine, I’ve given enough shit too!” I was quite impressed. |
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If you slag off someone when they're alive i dont see why youd stop when they pass away. They didn't change, they died. If anything they'll forever be a prick now. Sensitivity to their loved ones in understandable but where else would you talk about jivver other than here? If you hated him thats fine and no one should begrudge you sharing that here of all places. |
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He was harsh, and a bit of a shit stirrer, but he was fair. I’m sure I’ll get stick for this but he wasn’t out to troll, he just didn’t suffer fools gladly. He was also very generous, and enjoyed looking after some of the people he met here. He enjoyed coming here, enjoyed the banter and the people. I don’t get those who saw him as an arse. The people I know who knew him outside of xlt all seem to agree. And yeah of course if you hated someone while he was alive, it’s permissible to still dislike that person, and the memory you have of them. It gets dodgy when it’s attacks though, and someone is dead and therefore can’t answer back. |
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Its terribly sad he died so young, I hope his family are coping well, I didnt know him well enough to have an opinion one way or the other what he was like, afterall internet personalities can often vary wildly different to what your like in the real world Hence why people who give me shit on here wouldnt say boo to a goose in real life cos i would proper chin ya |
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Its only right we still talk about him and remember him, he was a big part of this site and the music we like |
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“Hence why people who give me shit on here wouldnt say boo to a goose in real life cos i would proper chin ya” Lol |
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the thing with autistic women is: they have a better behavioral structure to fall back to, to hide behind. they learn at a very early age to adapt. there is a lot of research about it. an example: i remember seeing two kids at the almost same age with their mother, a boy and a girl. the girl was having a little buggy with a plastic baby inside. she was complaining to her mother that the buggy was to heavy and she wanted to leave it on the street. the mother told her she can't do it or the baby would be very sad, die, ... so the girl moved on with the buggy. at the same time the boy was holding a stick and making weird noises on a metallic grid :) |
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i must say, i liked jivverdicker a lot and i always thought he was apex twin |
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yeah I think a lot more latitude is give to women in regards to mental health problems, I think its a cultural issue, men are generally told to get on with in, I know my dad was from a generation that basically didn't even really consider mental illness a real issue, it was just get on with it, buck your ideas up. Thankfully things are changing for the better |
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i remember one time i woke up and i went to get a coffee mug and there weren't any clean coffee mugs. so i just stand there, caught up. do i use a glass? are the mugs elsewhere? do i wash a mug in the sink? which one will be the least effort? at this point, my buddy walked in, saw me staring at the sink, knew exactly what was happening. he says, "i feel so bad for you" and fixed me a cup of coffee. but i do know the difference between outdoor trumpet and |
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Rejoice! Yet another unsolicited glimpse into EpicMegaTrax's fucking life. |
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it seemed incredibly relevant to what you were saying about your son and your baby mama |
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the thing i linked, i meant. |
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then the coffee cup story was sort of like "name a type of bird." for the record, i'd yell SPARROW or something without thinking. then i'd get tied up for ten minutes trying to figure out why the hell i went with sparrow |
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He doesn’t realise. There’s something endearing about it all though, reminds me of when I was five and guests would come for dinner and I would do a song and dance. EMT just wants to be liked, like us all. |
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Well I appreciate the fact you've come out of your comfort zone and forced yourself to explain something in terms that people other than yourself can understand. |
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When I’m up for it, I like epic’s post. But he is very focused on himself. The excitable child. I mean, I too enjoy being amazed at how different Andy smart I am. It does get boring though. Blogs are better suited than forums. |
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i feel like we've done this argument before |
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yeah then you pop up those fucking bible capters again like we were 8000 in this fucking forum |
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or it is an, intimate lecture? bwahaha |
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ah forgot that every post is linked in your mind, 'frozen' by your own words, and like the madonna track, and that every post contains an emotion. |
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horrible use of the board. |
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There’s no argument to be had. Nearly every post you make is self indulgent. It just seems like you treat this place with contempt. Hyperflake, myself, mohamed to name a few, we’ve all tried to connect. It’s just not possible. Never mind. It’s not a big deal, and it’s your problem, not mine. |
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I’m not saying you’re not smart and different, and that you shouldn’t cultivate it, epicmegatracks, it’s just that it really, really feel like you treat this place like a dump. Ok end of, I promise. |
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i will destroy your machinery, EM |
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im like the batman of this site, and you are like a small/middle boss. |
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getting a bit worked up over a message board, are we |
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says the man linking bullshit |
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Well all I say is, don't take a dump in a thread that was deals with one person's regret at trolling someone who then died, someone a lot of people miss very dearly, and expect to be fucking liked or listened to. |
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Nah, a messageboard is trying to get through to you. Shows people care. Won’t bother again. |
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