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welt
on 2017-04-25 20:49 [#02518459]
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So recently I met a young woman, who turned out to be an escort/whore. She was giggling a lot. She couldn’t utter three sentences without laughing nervously, so it was obvious that there was something psychologically wrong. (It turned out she’s in therapy for depression and is in debt because of that reason.) She was intelligent, though, and didn’t seem to be on drugs. … When I was in the awkward position of having to engage in small-talk with her, I went for the easy option and started a conversation about feminist politics. … So when she said that it annoys her that people confuse prostitution and human trafficking, I agreed and said the lack of clarity annoys me too. Then she pointed out that she could even convince her mother that there’s a distinction. How?, I asked. … She’s an example, she said, of a happy prostitute and therefore could convince her mother that prostitution is a great job. … She was such a good example, she said, that even her mother’s friend said she’d become a prositute if she were still young. …. I wasn’t convinced, though. She said she’s happy being a prositute, but at the same time she’s in therapy for depression and hugely in debt. ... That's a living contradiction, I'd guess.
The only other woman I knew who casually prostituted herself and claimed it was a fun experience was also getting treatment for depression and anxiety disorder and was abused as a child. So based on my experience all prostitutes are psychologically damaged.
So something seems to be significantly wrong with prostitution. But I never really get a clear answer what exactly is wrong with it. All the reasons people bring forward to explain why prostitution is different than other jobs don’t work. People are also selling their bodies in other jobs, people are also choosing other jobs due to financial pressure, for instance, and so on. So .. maybe XLT is the place where I finally get a good answer?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-25 22:15 [#02518462]
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I doubt it.
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Mr Dictionary
on 2017-04-25 22:24 [#02518463]
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they're genital telemarketers.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2017-04-26 03:23 [#02518470]
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whores manifest the anti life equation
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-26 11:25 [#02518472]
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no one should have to be reduced to a spunk receptacle for want of money
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2017-04-26 13:56 [#02518474]
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Marissa Mayer just got a 146 million dollar payout for failing at being Yahoo's CEO. It's hard to say that the world wouldn't be a better place if that money were confiscated from her and used to give prostitutes a living wage, therapy and career retraining.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2017-04-26 13:59 [#02518475]
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(marissa can also have a living wage, therapy and career retraining)
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-26 14:41 [#02518479]
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Often, I found, the issue with prostitution was the clients.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-26 19:36 [#02518482]
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the best compliment to my dick was done by a prostitute
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-26 19:39 [#02518483]
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she told me my dick was special, and we even didn't fuck
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2017-04-27 18:06 [#02518488]
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Sorry for being flippant about the subject. What was the worst client?
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Portnoy
on 2017-04-28 08:37 [#02518498]
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It’s one of the oldest forms of trade, innit
My Ukrainian partner (a Woman) says it can give people a chance to earn better money that couldn’t otherwise, and those unsure of their sexuality can make money while exploring it ← see French film Young and Beautiful (my suggestion)
What about those that are being exploited, you may ask? Well, she says, we are all exploited for something. They are being exploited for sex. If it wasn’t prostitution, it would be something else. Sadly that element exists. You can’t judge someone for doing it voluntarily. Every prostitute has a different motivation or circumstance.
Have any of you seen Sex: My British job ? That’s a different reality to that of welt's friend by the sound of it. An interesting watch, nonetheless.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2017-04-28 08:58 [#02518501]
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i believe that professionals in general do have a damaged personality. that impression may mostly come from porn though. met a couple of workers who seemed a bit over the top aswell, although they left an overall normal condition and i guess theres an exception to every rule. i have to say htough i hardly ever met a person who seemed perfectly sane in my whole life, few exceptions made. and with a lot of persons i looked up to in beleiveing they are fully aware of themselves and not afraid of anything, i was proven the opposite big time. not saying that i think that would make an excuse for visiting a prostitute. it makes it even worse actually, taking advantage of those weaknesses.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2017-04-28 09:06 [#02518502]
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that being said, i remember sexual encounters where roughness, choking was specifically asked for and a friend of mine has a friend with benefits, who enjoys this aswell. i know the girls have issues, because they are friends of mine and they know of mine aswell, who am i to judge what they shall enjoy in their private life.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2017-04-28 09:52 [#02518503]
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If one pays themselves to masturbate and saves up, this may help in the acquisition of synths.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2017-04-28 12:40 [#02518507]
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This may be the most quintessentially Xltronic thing ever posted.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2017-04-28 13:53 [#02518509]
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Sex should be a fun activity. You enjoy the activity itself, not the money you gain from it. You can't really compare it with a regular job.
Sex is also closely realted to love (and friendship), and you don't usually love someone, or pretend to love someone, to gain money.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 14:07 [#02518510]
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^ summed up well,
im certainly not morally outraged by it, what ever consenting adults want to do is up to them, i just cant imagine myself being personally gratified after the end of such an encounter. Perhaps i would who knows, its never appealed to me for the above reasons.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 20:21 [#02518517]
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if masterbation equates to synths, my room would be filled of gear
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 20:26 [#02518518]
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i would be roland corporation
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 21:23 [#02518519]
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wanking doesnt give you hairy palms or make you go crosseyed and blind, it does give you RSI of the wrist though if your not careful.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 21:37 [#02518521]
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i wank with three fingers, i dont hold my cock in my whole hand
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 21:38 [#02518522]
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like holding a cigar?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 21:39 [#02518523]
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yes
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 21:39 [#02518524]
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thats the continental style, very chic
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 21:41 [#02518527]
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in britain with grip our mighty members in our fists and pound like an industrial revolution era steam engine
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 21:42 [#02518529]
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thats man stuff
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 21:44 [#02518530]
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yeah you have to be rough and ready in this windswept, grey godless isle, no fannying about! get on with it, jobs a goodun!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 21:47 [#02518531]
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we just came out of a week of greyness and rain around here, no fanning about
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 22:41 [#02518535]
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yes i forget your in more northern end of italy, so you occasionally get shitty weather too, this week has been really weird here, grey, sunny, grey, sunny, i dont know if i should go out in my overcoast or wear shades
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 22:57 [#02518536]
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bit more often than occasionally but nothing compared to the UK, we went from the t shirts of the last week to the november clothing of this one. today i was out with the dog and my nose was watering from the cold wind but my armpits were sweating cos it was sunny at the same time, quite annoying
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 23:02 [#02518538]
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how prostitutes can barely clothe with all weather conditions, is a mystery
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 23:25 [#02518539]
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whats weird is when you see women on a night out in the UK it can be like below zero weather and they still have mini skirts on
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 23:28 [#02518540]
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yeah, or they belly uncovered for example, stuff that can make you go 24 hours on diarrhea
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-28 23:30 [#02518541]
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more than an alpine trooper could resist
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-28 23:33 [#02518542]
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yeah they must have anti freeze for blood, i think they arr generally so bevvied up they cant feel the cold much
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-29 09:38 [#02518543]
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they dont seem to be drunk to me
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 11:38 [#02518546]
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your right they arent at first, i dont know whats up with them
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-04-29 16:16 [#02518557]
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me neither, i wonder if is there a link between child abuse and prostitution. differently, i couldnt see the reason why it was stated in the original post, and im not sure the people it is spoken about would be happy to know someone is making it known on the internet
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 17:03 [#02518562]
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It's a question that will most likely elicit the same response from many who have been, or are still, working in prostitution. Though it's not a question you should ask others, as it can bring up traumas, and can trigger flashbacks.
I am feeling particularly healthy, at the moment, and have a penchant for openness, so:
The worst clients I have experienced were the ones who raped me.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 17:14 [#02518565]
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If any of you would like "the mystery of prostitution" and the surrounding mindcloud to be even slightly addressed, I am here to offer personal insights (I will not talk of experiences from other people, even under anonymity).
I don't propose to speak for all prostitutes, or ex-prostitutes, but I can speak for myself.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 17:54 [#02518570]
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^ jesus, sorry to hear that, not much you can say to that without sounding trite
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:21 [#02518578]
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Not everyone has the same story, in regards to general experience, but I will say that if you go down the route of "worst experience", you'll unfortunately visit that avenue.
I've had the flipside, also. I've had people worship me, and just wanting to talk. Even had someone offer me a full-paid job - with training - for the TfL (Transport For London). Not as payment for services rendered, but as some sort of way out, or alternative.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:25 [#02518579]
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what lead you down that route? if im not being too nosy
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:39 [#02518587]
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A flare-up of an illness which left me unable to work, which led rent to be unaffordable (which eventually led to homelessness).
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:42 [#02518588]
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And to reiterate, I only speak for myself, in these anecdotes. This is not the same story for everyone. People do it for different reasons, and will/may have differing experiences.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:43 [#02518589]
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a means to an end sort of thing, how long were you doing it?
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:51 [#02518590]
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Doing it for about two years, until one of those fated experiences happened (again), and I was pretty devastated. With that, and being homeless, and unable to report it for a myriad of reasons, for my own personal mental and physical health, I had to stop.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 18:53 [#02518591]
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do you have any long term repercussions? how did you get out of that situation?
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-04-29 19:11 [#02518592]
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I already had a particularly traumatic personal history, and numerous mental health maladies, so it was almost a "stick it on the bill". After this event had occurred, I became street homeless (ie. without a couch to surf), and to attain help, I had to recount the story over, and over again to mental health professionals, advocates, and housing officers, and being completely unable to tell the police about it.
Traumas of this flavour are not something that ever leave you, and they enjoy visiting you at seemingly random times, as is the case with PTSD.
My personal experience of being a prostitute wasn't what I'd call favourable, but I often was on a cocktail of whatever drugs I could find, as often as I could find them. But I would have ways of separating the night life I was leading, from the day life.
But as I said, there were some people who worshipped me to the level of wanting to pay just to spend time talking with me. As a person whom (at the time) was encountering a lifelong seduction with low self-esteem, it felt good to have someone to wish to talk with me without fetishisation.
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