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Ah the person says "that would be an ..." I think. |
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yeah it was from that |
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You didn't even quote that it well! What's your fave Peter Cook moment? |
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probably why bother, the jesus christ expedition bit, i like derek and clive as when, when he is talking about wanking to a picture of clement attlee |
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"9 o'clock Wednesday wank" |
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"ids down in my diary, its optional" |
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Welt: about prozzies... If a woman chooses that profession then I think it's acceptable if she doesn't have men behind her asking for money and pushing her to work more. If a woman can be independent and Earn a good living then I don't see a problem. I've met women often quite mature who work on their own account and are perfectly happy. They make a decent living, and believe that they are helping society. On the other hand, for me anything mafia run, so to speak, is obviously a nightmare for the girls. It's why I believe prostitution should be legal, And protected. When it's illegal the problems start, prostitution on the street. I don't believe in that. |
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Oh gosh I have to ask about Mary Magdalene, Welt. |
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Imagine a big black man giving you one up the arse. Hammer and tongs! I mean, it's food for thought, isn't it? |
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imagine paul mckenna saying that on one of his hypnotist shows |
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ha ha |
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its an ecumenical matter |
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imagine every male in china of a reproductive age bumming each other in a conga line along the great wall of china, perhaps the friction generated would close up the hole in the ozone layer |
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the new one child policy, sino conga sodomy |
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I can't find it on the Internet, probably because of racism and stuff, but Viz once had an advert for Japanese Bonsai Cocks. |
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loool wish i could see it, i love the franklin mint stuff bourbon henge might be my favourite |
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imagine they were all on space hoppers |
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welt: you can't live in a brick, and a house is made of bricks, so you can't live in a house |
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A house is a complex physical object. So you can describe a house as a complex arrangement of more basic physical objects (bricks or atoms and so on), which as individual basic objects have different properties than the whole. The analogy is not helpful because mental states or values are not complex physical objects. It’s not possible to describe them as complex arrangements of matter. … You are basically saying that once matter reaches a certain level of complexity mind and values magically appear. But instead of calling it magic, you give a scienc-y sounding name such as "supervenience" to it and hope insecure people will not ask too many questions about it. … |
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Even the Stanford Encylopedia of Philosophy expresses my points of criticism. I think that even for you it’s difficult to claim that athe authors are "just using a God-of-the-gaps tactic" and therefore not "worth bothering" with. "Supervenience claims, by themselves, do nothing more than state that certain patterns of property (or fact) variation hold. They are silent about why those patterns hold, and about the precise nature of the dependency involved (see Kim 1993, 167; 1998, 9–15; Blackburn 1984, 186; Schiffer 1987, 153–154; and McGinn 1993, 57). […] If it is claimed, for instance, that moral properties supervene on non-moral properties, we expect there to be an explanation of why this is so. Appeals to unexplainable supervenience theses can thus seem to be mystery mongering." https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/supervenience/#3.7 |
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No, I think bricks have an élan structurel that allows them to be formed into houses. If the house-spirit leaves the bricks, the house either collaspe or get's demons. |
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But that's empirically false. It would mean that once the demons that possess the house are cast out the house would collapse. But houses don't collapse after exorcism. |
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It always comes down to intentionality being primary, doesn't it? In the beginning was the word. The explanation for why something that has an emergent property can be composed of things that don't have it can be extremely complicated. People look at things like mental properties and throw up their hands in defeat, then assume that either being itself must have mental properties, or that an extra substance, some spooky ghost juice - a "ghost in the machine" - must be present and responsible, recalling Voltaire's joke about how opium puts you to sleep because it has "dormitive powers". In other words, neither postulating mental substance nor supposeing that intentional mental properties are foundational to being itself actually explains mental phenomena, that move just black-boxes them into something that sounds simple because it's quick to say. "Soul" is just one syllable. "God" is even shorter. Much quicker for people to grasp than a load of old cobblers about evolved neural networks and biochemistry that doesn't yet even answer the hard problem of how subjective experience emerges. The paradigm example of this move is Bergson's élan vital - at the time, it was plausible, because no one understood how life could be composed solely of non-living elements - and the explanation is extremely complicated, involves a lot of different substances and processes, and can't be summed up in terms of one simple principle or substance, otherwise everyone would have a doctorate in biology. But nevertheless, it appears that living cells are made of non living matter, conscious beings are made of non-conscious cells, and moral situations are made of situations involving conscious beings. Everything in that stack is complicated and difficult to understand. I guess it would be easier to say that there are moral properties because of Phil the Spirit Werewolf. please like and follow phil |
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Exorcism restores the élan structurel. |
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(sorry, Voltaire s/b Molière) |
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