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i watched it all, thanks for the link |
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cos tony blair killed saddam can I get a 100 foot tall soviet futurism style statue of blair killing saddam, please |
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malice? which adam curtis doc said that? i think blair is actually nice |
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who is worse? a) jeremy corbyn b) tony blair |
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so you agree with me on blair's dishonesty and bumblefuckery? |
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pretty eye opening stuff about the Assad dynasty, eh? |
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oh come the fuck on, really? the worst you can say about corbyn is he's an ineffectual tit, not that his lies and bad decisions cost trillions of dollars, destabilized the middle east, and killed hundreds of thousands next: who's better, tony blair or the homeless guy in front of starbucks who smells like feet |
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no |
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he has been on putin tv. |
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never mind |
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its bed time for me fleetmouse. sleep well |
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Is that video a bit deceiving though? It's just 30 seconds and no context. Yes, those weapons going off in the night is a beautiful sight, if you're retarded and mistake them for fireworks. Can something evil be beautiful? Of course it can. And bien sûr beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Which makes debate difficult. What is beauty, Hypers? |
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yes your right it is out of context, and that is the problem of posting links to videos, im right with you with that is suppose what i should have said is that places like MSNBC seem to be cheer leading for the syrian nissile attack |
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What do you mean my "right is out of context"? Leave my right out of this! |
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i missed the comma |
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and the wrong your'e |
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you're |
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And I was messing with you. |
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i know |
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So, you were messing with me? |
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no |
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back when i was into the palestinian cause i superficially read about the ties the palestinians have with syria, like the ones they have with all the countries they found refuge in, but i thought it was all politics, i couldnt imagine it was the kind of ties described in the documentary |
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its amazing how convoluted and how many people have a hand in the pie so to speak when it comes to middle eastern politics especially, i cant keep up, |
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my girlfriend just said "have they really declared world war 3 then or what" in a serious tone of voice |
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What accent? |
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slightly more scouse than mine, as both her parents are from the wirral, as only my dad is from the wirral and my mum is from Lancashire |
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Thanks. |
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my dads dad was english but he was born in belfast for some reason, so i found out i can apply for irish citizenship if brexit goes to hell |
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I know one member here has has done just that. As for your dad being born in Belfast, my guess is the reason is that his mum was there at that particular time. Maybe we should question her reason for being there? |
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mohamed |
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it was my grand dad who i never knew, i think if he was alive he would have been something like 117 years old lol i dont know if his wife was irish or what, perhaps i will look up my genealogical history sometime, i know he was a communist and had a machine gun pointed at him once but thats about it |
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IMO the important thing about Syria in the docu is their sponsorship of terrorism, and how intel points to Syria being behind things that were blamed on Libya out of political expediency. |
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A former CIA agent who analysed intelligence for the Lockerbie investigation has claimed that “to a man” the CIA believes Iran was responsible for the terrorist attack. Robert Baer said the CIA worked on the assumption that Iran had ordered the attack as revenge for the downing of an Iranian civilian flight in July 1988 by a US Navy warship. He also claimed a Syrian-based terrorist group called the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC) built the bomb and put it on board Pan Am Flight 103. [...] Syria was a key strategic Middle Eastern power regarded by Britain and the US as a counterbalance to Saddam Hussein’s unstable and unpredictable regime in neighbouring Iraq. The Washington Post claimed in 1990 that the Lockerbie investigation suddenly switched from Iran and Syria to Libya following a phone call in March 1989 between George H W Bush and Margaret Thatcher, in which Bush advised her to keep Lockerbie “low key” to avoid prejudicing negotiations with Iranian and Syrian-backed groups holding Western hostages in Lebanon. In 1990, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, the policy paid dividends when Syria sent 20,000 soldiers to join the US-led coalition that defeated the Iraqi army. criticize Adam Curtis's style and conceptual overreach all you want, but he's still got a point... |
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robert baer? told u to read kyle ortons twitter ages ago |
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"A similar conclusion was relayed to The Times of Israel in December, when a former senior member of the Israeli security establishment said he was certain the bombing was carried out by Ahmed Jibril’s PFLP-GC." |
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i watched robert baers 'cult of the suicide bomber' 10 years ago. about the same time i was really into adam curtis 'power of nightmares' ive mostly moved on because the info from these kinds of guys isnt good enough. arent you supposed to not trust these cia guys anyway? old blog but has some stuff to think about. youd probably agree with lots of it just read it. |
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"We reported in January that President Bush had made a private pact with British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to downplay the Pan Am investigation. Both had learned that Iran may have paid Palestinian terrorists to do the job. Bush and Thatcher agreed that they were powerless to strike back against Iran, so the information would be best kept under wraps." but, you know, keep reading those twitter feeds, friend |
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...And he said that while an Iranian role made sense, Israel had found no proof of Iranian involvement. |
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but ykno, its not just twitter feeds is it. its actual lively debate. instead of you finding me anon israelis and ex spies that dont even back your point conclusively. all i said was adam curtis pinch of salt. you been salty ever since |
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I'm just wondering why you're so horny to defend Syria and Iran. Do you come from a Shia or Alawite background? That would explain why you think the Iraq occupation was such a good idea - they got rid of that Sunni stinker Saddam. |
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cmon its all a bit thin. you agree about the salt pinch right? |
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you know thats disingenuous to say that fleetmouse. i've never apologized for syria and you know it. in this very thread: ampi max: "fuck assad and putin. they are weak, cruel and pointless. we should have bombed assad years ago." [#02517572] then you called me: "a sick neolib normalizing imperial war" [#02517585] ...so. you the only one looks like they are defending syria around here... |
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The Lockerbie bombing was ordered by Iran and carried out by a Syrian-based terrorist group, a former Iranian intelligence officer has admitted. Abolghassem Mesbahi, a defector to Germany, said Pan Am flight 103 was downed in 1988 in retaliation for a US Navy strike on an Iranian commercial jet six months earlier, in which 290 people died. He claims the Ayatollah Khomeini, who was Iran’s Supreme Leader, ordered the bombing “to copy exactly what happened to the Iranian Airbus”. Previously unseen evidence gathered for the aborted appeal hearing of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the former Libyan intelligence officer convicted of the bombing, supports Mr Mesbahi’s claim and suggests that the bombers belonged to the extremist group the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC). |
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that just leaves you in the same place as before. and pretending i defend assad has undermined ur integrity greatly. misrepresenting my views...i dont like that at all. i wont talk to you for at least a week |
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fly on the wall evidence of trying to get pussy after watching adam curtis |
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i dont understand that version of english, but i understand the english of the documentary |
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what says that video ampi, bashing the technical aspects of the doc or the content |
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give this a quick read if you can fleetmouse, and particular what the article says about the PLFP. just shows the kind of media ive been reading when i decided to go to Palestine. i didnt search for this or something, its just the first stuff that appeared when i logged in to twitter. |
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the content and the style. adam curtis can be an entertaining way to get a grasp of some of the facts. but try and remember its more entertainment than fact. you should never trust 'documentaries' that are just one guy talking over clips of footage. notice how often adam curtis tries to connect events that are geographically and chronologically far apart using suggestive imagery. its a clear case of style over substance. adam curtis has gotten many things wrong by trying to make the history fit his narrative (honest film makers dont usually do that) |
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