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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-28 05:14 [#02514223]
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Music is a practical joke played on humans by a robot. The
robot first made a really amazing piece, but it was
automated and took no effort. He knew the humans are monkey
see monkey do, so will try to make this new invention
"music" themselves, but unautomated using their real earth
limited time, thus wasting their time making it. edit edit:
But when humans make music it is NOT automated. Therefore
every human made music piece is essentially complicated
which can always only translate to one thing: "this is what
I spent my time doing". By making music, you advertise (in a
robot inside joke) that you just spent your human time
engaging in a useless activity. That's the only info it
ultimately contains because its complexity proves that you
spent time to arrange it. I see that I was susceptible to
this infinite mind mirror, because I had no friends and no
life. Actually it could be a practical joke, or possibly a
sort of human stun weapon. Like the machine didn't want you
doing anything in reality, so it hypnotized you with a fake
activity. This is all not true.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-28 05:33 [#02514224]
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omg, it gets deeper. The machine who played this trick on
you also uses your electricity. You pay for HIS electricity
to be on, so he played a trick on you there too. Plus, now
get this... you made this machine TO play this trick on
yourself. The machine is you joking yourself.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-28 07:02 [#02514226]
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Hey, I'm sorry for everything bad I ever said about god. God
is good. That's a good meme and I want to spread goodness,
because I am the creator made in the image (aka meme) of the
creator since nothing exists until it is memed. Therefore
all is one consciousness of memes. So I humbly love all.
This will spread love because love is a meme. See I typed
love 3 times I think.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-28 09:07 [#02514227]
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Do robots get a sense of satisfaction from a well told joke?



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-02-28 17:30 [#02514242]
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w M w is lying when he says its a useless activity, but hes
a master so he can afford to say it


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-28 17:35 [#02514243]
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here is a different variation on the same joke.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-28 17:37 [#02514244]
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frozen music


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-05 12:13 [#02514592]
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w M w music explanations, one of the few reasons why i
learned to enjoy doing it


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-05 12:19 [#02514593]
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anybody else more receptive to humanistic narratives more
than scientific ones?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-05 21:52 [#02514613]
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I was nearing psychosis I think with marijjuuaanannna
(psychosis: a severe mental disorder in which thought and
emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external
reality) when I posted most of the above. It was really
scary. I seem mentally fine now. I was thinking like there's
the normal explanation of life etc of evolution, as dawkins
describes in 'the selfish gene'. But I had this weird "meme
magick" alternate explanation that the only thing that
actually exists is memetics, and like the whole universe was
some sort of conscious thing that was using memes to think
things into "reality". I have no idea if this is a wrong
axiom to start with but it made bizarre sense at the time.
Then I was thinking if anyone can meme anything into
reality, everyone should be careful about only replicating
"positive" memes, because we should all avoid creating some
sort of hell by spreading memes that are negative, if memes
can indeed become reality. Like if everyone's consciousness
is a node into the same super consciousness, maybe that is
"god" and we are all "god" and we can meme whatever we want
as creators. It was really weird. And I thought any entity
that has the power to make another entity feel like it is in
hell essentially is a god to that other entity, and maybe
the government or corporations or something is acquiring
that power. Frankly I'm suspicious that some entity spiked
the marrijjuuannna with something that affects the religious
area of the brain.


 

offline truthgong on 2017-03-05 22:11 [#02514614]
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whatever drug you're on you should stop


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-05 22:16 [#02514615]
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I threw the pipe in the trash, which is unfortunate because
music was amazingly vivid during the "good" first phase, the
weird psychosisParanoia only came in a 2nd wave after that
first good wave. You know like in that movie american
beauty, the drug seller is like this variety is cheap and
this one is cheap, but this one is super expensive and has
no paranoia etc. Well it could be the case that the weird
paranoia stuff was intentionally added to certain strains,
back when it was all black market so they could sell a good
non-paranoia strain at a way marked up price to make more
money.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-05 23:49 [#02514618]
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who cares about memes w M w, or whatever particle is
replicating into your body each second


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-05 23:52 [#02514619]
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a sane ignorance is what we need. i dont mean to be blind,
but to be able to ignore.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-06 02:58 [#02514627]
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But I had this weird "meme magick" alternate explanation
that the only thing that actually exists is memetics, and
like the whole universe was some sort of conscious thing
that was using memes to think things into "reality". I have
no idea if this is a wrong axiom to start with but it made
bizarre sense at the time.


i say it here and it comes out there


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-06 02:59 [#02514628]
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strains of weed are no joke. some are body-high with no
mental. some are paranoid and mental. some are not-paranoid
and mental. one strain (purple diesel, i think) actually
made me irritible. that was a bit of a bummer. don't smoke
just anyfing


 

offline truthgong on 2017-03-06 04:28 [#02514631]
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sometimes you just have tinactin on your finger when you
roll your joint


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-06 16:06 [#02514648]
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do you understand mu zig though


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-06 22:31 [#02514675]
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w M w is on a roll himself


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2017-03-06 22:44 [#02514678]
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would be good to have a hat that said: who cares about
memes!


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-07 18:50 [#02514706]
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Indensikal nailed it,
dont read the Nineteenth Enochian Call when ur really really
stoned,put some good dub on instead


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-07 18:57 [#02514708]
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does anyone here smoke hash? (not the crappy soapbar) or is
it all green ?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-07 19:36 [#02514713]
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i tried hash once and i felt terrible because i was barely
stoned at all and my friend had brought this shit back from
morocco or something and i was supposed to be blown away,
you know? should i just pretend i'm six flaps beyond a pack?
i thought: "i don't even know how to pretend i'm really
stoned. i've never had to try before." eventually i said
something like, "i think i have a bit of a tolerance, or
does this need a butane lighter or something?"

wince. i tried to dress it up but i could see it in his face
he was a bit bummed out about it

that was like ten years ago, though, and it might have a bit
more of an effect on me now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-07 19:42 [#02514714]
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there's also this -- a friend had a strain that was low THC
(~4%) but extremely high CBD (10%+) that he bought as an
experiment. you don't get really high off of it... but you
do....

so, in addition to learning how deep the difference between
indica and sativa is, then how much variation (in subjective
effect) there is inside both types... balance of CBD vs. THC
is also an extremely important variable....

this is all new to me in the last few months, and it's
because medical marijuana has changed the status quo. it's
no longer going to your guy and he has a choice between one
of two strains, if you're lucky.

anyways, someone tried to sell me "shard" -- sounds a bit
too mutant future for me -- but i half figure someone will
try to sell me some hash soon enough and perhaps it's time
for another try

so, finally, my question: what's the hash high like? and why
does alan moore smoke hash -- exclusively, indoors, unless
his wife asks him to open a window?


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-07 20:50 [#02514718]
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my friends take the piss cos i wont smoke green
hash for me is always more gentle and body oriented, maybe.
there are different versions and ppl will disagree,
suggestion probably plays a big part.
i like that time and effort has gone into it as a product,
and its far more compact and easy to carry and doesnt stink
that much...
didnt know A.Moore was a smoker,


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-07 20:59 [#02514719]
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my friends take the piss cos i wont smoke green hash for
me is always more gentle and body oriented, maybe. there are
different versions and ppl will disagree, suggestion
probably plays a big part.


everyone is different. when sober, i am: moody, spazzy,
flibbitigibbiterry. indica, body-high kinda stuff is a good
fit. it helps me sit still, it gets me really into dancing
and working out (which also helps me sit still).

the sativa, mental-high stuff... well, it can actually make
me more moody, more spazzy, more flibbitigibbiterrish-y. i
actualy quite enjoy it, mind you -- deeply emotional head
trips listening to music are par for the course -- but it's
the sort of thing i've learned to save for the weekend.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-07 21:05 [#02514720]
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CBD actually counteracts some of the THC effects -- actively
blocks it; dampens the THC high. the flip side of this is
that pure THC will be very crack-head-y and unpleasant. the
strains that are crazy potent (20%+ THC) will have been bred
to select out all the CBD in favor of THC, and that shit is
what, i think, sends people into psychotic breaks or
something. the consequences of messing with what nature gave
us are what they usually tend to be...

anyways, CBD selectively blocks THC. THC itself interacts
with seven or eight subsystems in your mind, and CBD will
gradually cut that down from seven or eight to two or
three.... until this strange zone where you feel more or
less sober. just a distant body high... but then, you go to
type something, and what the fuck? it's like i'm stoned. i
don't feel stoned at all

i have a theory: mixing a bit of of the CBD weed in with the
high-test THC weed will be a harmonious mix. sort of like
how meth-heads will have a shot of jamesons after just to
smooth out the ice


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-07 21:06 [#02514721]
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and doesnt stink that much...

yes, non-stinky weed could explain why hash has lingered
around -- because it doesn't


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-07 21:09 [#02514723]
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didnt know A.Moore was a smoker

perhaps that's a joke... but, here's what i was referencing
nonetheless:

It's almost a luxury to be able to smoke indoors these
days.


Alan Moore: It's very civilised. I'm not keen on
having to go to places where you have to stand outside to
have a smoke. People complain about passive smoking but they
don't realise that my passive smoke has a measurable retail
value. I'm thinking about charging people to stand next to
me. I smoke indoors. Although since I got married to Melinda
[Gebbie, co-creator of Lost Girls], and she's moved in with
me, I have relented and will open a window now.


quietus article also covers alan moore dropping acid in high
school. how he occasionally still shrooms for business
reasons ("ritual circumstances").


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-07 22:59 [#02514730]
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So you're saying that sativa dominant strains are better for
that vividness-while-listening-to-music effect? Here's the
strains I tried:

ak47 (sativa dominant I think): excellent for music, I guess
5/5 vividness since I have nothing else to compare with
other than the 2 below. has a wave of vividness, and no
following wave of psychosis paranoia weirdness (maybe an
upset stomach only occasionally).
lemon og: has a 3.5/5 vividness wave, followed by a scary
psychosis religious wave where you're scared of going to
hell
girl scout cookies: exactly the same as lemon og

Since all this was on the black market I do suspect that
some smart dealer was like "you can have thiiiis strain for
50 bucks... oh but you'll feel like you're going to hell
after... ORRRR, 500 bucks for thiiiis one with that whole
hell part removed." So like maybe they added the psychosis
on purpose as a sort of cheap sample to get people to pay
way more for the "pure" psychosis-free version.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-08 02:56 [#02514740]
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that's exactly what i mean. if i'm right, this is a good
hack. since CBD counteracts THC a bit -- makes you
less high -- all these strains have been bred to be
all THC, little-to-no CBD. the high amounts of THC and lack
of CBD is, i believe, what causes those "psychosis religious
wave" moments. so i said: if i take a strain that makes me
paranoid, and mix in a bit of the all-CBD weed with it, i
will feel a bit less high, but i won't feel paranoid."

i tested my theory out tonight, and i am pretty sure i am
correct. a bit of "cannatonic" added to some intense
stuff... and, well, i felt quite clear. barely stoned...
more or less, it totally took the wind out of the strong
shit! that was like a 1:3 ratio, next time i figure i'll try
1:5.

it's important to say that it's not about "more high" or
"less high" -- it's way more complex. the CBD killed a lot
of the "mental" high and some of the "body" high. this forms
a gradient of sort, really... i figure, as i scale down the
CBD, it'll leave the body high alone entirely... then scale
it down a bit further, and it'll just take the edge off of
the mental effects. even this is vastly oversimplified for
the sake of a writeup.

"platinum girl scout cookies" was amazing... but, stopped
buying it because it was so strong i built up a tolerance
almost immediately... then was a crabby mcguss


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-03-08 07:49 [#02514744]
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couldnt i claim such me bold


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-08 18:12 [#02514797]
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psychosis is a consequence of paranoia w M w, so eradicating
the paranoia lowers the risk of psychosis


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-08 20:15 [#02514810]
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i've come back with some less fumbly metaphors !!

subtractive synthesis ~ analog synths like the SH101
use "subtractive synthesis" to generate sound. an oscillator
produces a pure waveform (square, triangle) with lots of
harmonics. that harmonic-rich sound is then fed through a
filter -- lowpass, say -- to selectively filter different
harmonics out.

here is wikipedia's definition, for redundancy: "Subtractive
synthesis is a method of sound synthesis in which partials
of an audio signal (often one rich in harmonics) are
attenuated by a filter to alter the timbre of the sound."

THC is the pure waveform, rich in harmonics. CBD is the
filter. yes, when you filter some of the harmonics out, the
sound is slightly quieter... but, all you have to do is turn
up the volume, and that's an easy compromise to make.

choice of waveform is equivalent to which strong-dank strain
you're smoking. take a carefully chosen strain and then
optionally "filter" it with the addition of CBD weed and i
figure you can reliably get yourself in whatever
hedstonespace you want.

errata: w M w, if you're having a paranoid episode, smoking
some pure CBD weed may actually abort it immediately. i half
wonder if this stuff would dampen an acid trip, really. if i
still had access to that i might try it


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-03-10 00:21 [#02514895]
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if anyone want to experience what psychosis means at the
auditory level, just get a samsung phone, buy VR gear, and
use it while you're in a room with someone speaking in it.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-03-10 00:54 [#02514908]
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after you've been awake for about three days, you'll say to
yourself: "self, it sounds like there's a radio playing in
the other room! i think i recognize the song!"

you get up to investigate. as you draw closer, the song
changes: alright, no, it's a different song.

you draw in closer still... wait, is that a song at all?

finally, you're three feet away from your desktop PC,
staring at it. the fan is pumping out a bit of white noise
and you've been hallucinating various pieces of music inside
of it, until your brain finally understood what was actually
making the sound

this is generally a hint that it's time for a nap.


 

offline Tussle Toss from United States on 2017-06-19 03:07 [#02522825]
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Applying this logic to syro, richard is a very lonely guy


 


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