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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 00:35 [#00183285]
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Or have the US Air Bombed killed a lot of people in friendly fire in the past? Is that twice now in afghanistan? I can't imagine how infuriating that would be..
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Asche XL
on 2002-04-19 00:37 [#00183289]
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that's whack, how many inocent people died in the towers, yeahhhhh
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-19 00:38 [#00183291]
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Casualties of war I'm afraid!
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-19 00:39 [#00183293]
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Afganistan is responsible for the people killed in friendly fire....if they had'nt start it......and so on!
Anyway, I'll leave this for others to discuss - I'm so tired!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 00:39 [#00183294]
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its one thing to get killed by the enemy thoug,h but another by your own side!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1937 000/1937217.stm
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 00:40 [#00183295]
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hey hey, come back! when did afghanistan start it!?!?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 00:41 [#00183296]
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I also apologise if this post seems aggressive, I just like discusion!
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-19 00:41 [#00183297]
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Yeah, the US military fucks up quite a bit.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 00:45 [#00183301]
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Who is that girl, did we ever find out?
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-19 00:49 [#00183307]
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I think the army isn't as bad as NASA. We shot the Mars Polar Lander all over the galaxy and never got a successful mission out of it!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 00:51 [#00183315]
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Heh what about when the Hubble didn't work because someone had manually adjusted something and all it needed was a washer.
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Asche XL
on 2002-04-19 00:56 [#00183323]
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remember we never actually made it to the moon ; )
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-04-19 01:35 [#00183406]
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U.S. Defense is Satan, bombing innocent people. Have you heard the COLCUT sample of the pilot who bombed Hiroshima. It s very disturbing. He says something like : made the run let the bomb go that was the most exciting time of my life. THat s disgusting, i couldnt hurt a dog, i cant even comprehend being the person resposible for killing thousand maybe hundreds of thousand of people.
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-04-19 01:37 [#00183409]
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Terrorist are just as bad they did the same thing.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-19 01:38 [#00183411]
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Yeah B3n, see the post further down.
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OK
on 2002-04-19 09:18 [#00183936]
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the terrorists are the US goverment
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 10:28 [#00183992]
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The US is the biggest terrorist the world has known. I just feel sorry for the people who join because they have little other chance of employment. I saw this programme recently where this young black woman had signed up and then realised what she'd done, really questioning what she was going to be doing i.e. killing innocent people in the poorest countries in the world. It was really sad because she had no way out.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 10:32 [#00183996]
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yeah its abum deal all round. i just think that this 'war agaisnt terroism' is such a vague formless 'thing' to be battling agaisnt. didnt the us recently kill 4 canadian soldiers and crtically injure 8 more in a carpet bombing exercise? man i would have loved to have heard bush groval to the canadian president on the phone.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 10:48 [#00184008]
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This 'war on terrorism' is just an excuse for the US to do what it wants. The middle East is so important, for obvious reasons, and the west want control. Hence the backing for Israel to massacre Palestinians.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:16 [#00184099]
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I watched a programme on tv about the supposed faking of the moon landing (at least the first one) and I must say it had me believing it, they did actually have some strong evidence!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:18 [#00184103]
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Well, I think since america is the most powerful nation in the world it should use its influence and power at least responsibly, act as a beacon to other countries to follow with just reason. Of course the US thinks that now anyway, but its doing the exact opposite (IMO) =)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:24 [#00184112]
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As long as power is in the hands of government and big business we'll continue to see wars. Its their drive for profits and them imposing their will on other countries and peoples that lead to what we see today.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:27 [#00184116]
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Capital sees no friends or enemies, when people die for their country: their country is actually killing them. Friendly fire is such an ironic thing, but I'm sure the people developing strategies don't even fool themselves with this, these are just calculated casulties in an equation dealing with costs and incomes.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:27 [#00184117]
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When you think about it america is almost a perfectly crafted example of capitalism
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:30 [#00184118]
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g2g, working lunch is on! lol
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:59 [#00184166]
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An american officer summed it up nicely in an interview on the news last night.
He said "This is a war and we're playing with deadly weapons..."
And that's the problem, they are "playing" with weapons wheras other Forces are fighting with weapons.
A more carefull and accountable attitude might reduce further incidents...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 13:07 [#00184188]
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Yeah, 'lets get the toys out'
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sgt growley
from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 13:23 [#00184230]
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When you play with big boys toys someone's going to get hurt.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-04-19 13:25 [#00184232]
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Didn't they bomb Candians a couple of days ago?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-04-19 13:39 [#00184257]
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they did .... not such a nice thing to do...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-19 13:56 [#00184290]
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Yeah I know the sample, he says about the mushroom blooming looking beautiful.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 14:06 [#00184311]
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Is that on Atomic Moog?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-19 14:08 [#00184313]
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It's on something off "Let us Play", I'm not sure, but it may be the on "Pan Opticon". I'll check when I get home.
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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-04-19 15:11 [#00184424]
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Have any of the people that constantly complain about the US actually ever been here, if so, I'd like to know where you visited, if not shut up.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 16:49 [#00184614]
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Ok get ready...but this may be a little controverisal. My thoughts on whatever happened on September 11th in New York City at the world trade center fit the agenda of White World Power which George Bush is beginning to run and head up. It's showing up and anchoring up and rousing the people towards this white washing or red, white, and blue washing.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 16:51 [#00184615]
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I was in NY at the time the "attack" happened...
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 16:55 [#00184616]
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I think its just another leap at world power and world domination and it's cloaked under this thing called terrorism. I think it intends to make a claim that everybody who is not of the same opinion of the United States government or those enforcers of that are terrorist, when in fact the U.S. is the REAL TERRORSISTS.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 16:58 [#00184617]
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Yeah I know...sometimes the truth just hurts.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-19 17:03 [#00184620]
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Save it for alt.conspiracy.new-world-order
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-19 17:04 [#00184621]
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atomic moog is the track. Killer synths.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 17:13 [#00184626]
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Yes Regital, New York and various parts of California
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-19 17:58 [#00184672]
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Archrival, I think it's as much about the elite class as it is about race. The elite class is not all racist white folks, just predominantly. As a white person I am not automatically a part of the power because of my lower-middle class status and my "anti-American" attitude.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 18:54 [#00184763]
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I dont really know who did the bombings.....I dont know if Osama Bin Laden did it. I just know that out in the world what I recognize now, is that there is somebody else who feels the same pain that I felt all of my life livin in poverty (not now tho, I got a decent job) or my friends in NY growin up in the projects. Their is somebody else who feels that there is a war that is being waged against them and wants to strike back and thats what I think is happening to the U.S. and Im not surprised by it at all. I think our response has to be one that calls for real justice because thats what I think is gonna solve the problem, not vengeance.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 18:56 [#00184765]
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jupitah n all the orher US heads: What should or does the American Flag represent to you?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-04-19 19:00 [#00184769]
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ARCHRIVAL YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 20:09 [#00184904]
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Till alla svenskar, vad tycker ni om upploppet i Goteborg? Helt ratt tycker jag, jag onskar bara att jag kunde ha varit dar och nitat nagra snutar.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 20:10 [#00184905]
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ITS TIME TO RECLAIM THE STREETS FUCK GEORG BUSH aka THE DEVIL.
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 20:13 [#00184911]
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ITS not right to take a fucking plane and fly into the WTC and kill people tho.
Its not right to kill, im totally anti war and anti violence (except when it comes to snuff cops).
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Archrival
on 2002-04-19 20:15 [#00184915]
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Its just that I can feel the anger and that there is a lot of people out there that wants justice.
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numbplant
from st- jérôme québec (Canada) on 2002-04-19 20:29 [#00184937]
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casualty of war is such a bad expression it should not exist i am not really up to date on canadian killings and stuff but i know that us gouv. have a plan behind the plan. no doubt one to make money and a little justice
B3n:i've seen that man/moon tv show i was convinved for about an hour whit all those photos with multiple llights and all ...but then i realized it was a fox show
later that week i wachted a tlc program that explaned most of the lighting and stranged evidence in the others soo after realizing i wacht to much tv im stiill unsure on the man/moon "theory"
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