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anybody out there into the genious that was JD? ...just came across this link which im rather chuffed about-nice art work/good transcripts of essays from the box set....'heart and soul' http://www.joydivisionheartandsoul.cjb.net/ |
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thanks man |
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Ah you are about Ken. I was listening to some Joy Division before beddy-byes last night. I've got the box set but haven't gone through it. I bought it in a sale. I have so much stuff I haven't got around to playing. I love the bassline on Isolation. |
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no worries! coo!!l-they are my favourite band of all time. absolutely classic. ive borrowed the box set off a friend and im going through some of the unreleased session stuff at the moment...unknown pleasures still has to be one of the most phenomenal albums in history..i really cant think of another recording that really knocked me for six. incredible. have been lent the complete bbc sessions as well, thats worth a listen-the version of 24 hours is stunning. |
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cool tune Isolation! |
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boxed set? the one that was out several years ago? |
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yeah-4 cds ...check the link ive posted for more info... |
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is possible to find that? |
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nah, thanks, my friend has it, I can burn it anytime I want, it's just im not sucha big fan, but I probably will be one day. |
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yeah, all the big outlets will still be selling it-it wasnt ltd edition or anything.... |
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good! do you know how much it is? joy division is one of the band that i have to get the complete discography (when i was a teen i haven't got the money to do so) |
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yeah its about 34.99 if my memory serves me right!! failing that mate, if youre quick, HMV are doing the complete back catalogue of JD albums for £4.99 in their current sale-and there doing 'substance' for £ 5.99....but the box set does look nice... (note-the album 'still' and most of the peel session material is missing from the box set though...) |
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Yeah check the HMV sale on at the moment. I got mine in one of their sales for £16. |
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£16.00 quid? that has got to be one of the best bargains ive ever heard!! the box set is a great package-well compiled and the booklet layout is smart-very peter saville era graphics/ essays are a good read. you got a bargain there jonesy... |
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Yeah I snapped it up quick-smart. I'd only heard Love Will Tear... and covers of their tracks by Therapy?, Moby and ...erm Paul Young. Whoever let him do that needs shooting. I saw this programme on cable about dance music and they had this bit about New Order's Blue Monday. Barney was talking about this Sunkist advert they did where they changed the words to a song. He couldn't do it in the studio until someone put a big sign over the mixing desk with the amount they were getting paid written on it. He sung his heart out then ha, ha. |
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YEAH IVE HEARD THAT!! IAN CURTIS USED TO BE A HUGE PRACTICAL JOKER BELIEVE IT OR NOT-HE'D PISS IN HOOKYS ORANGE JUICS AND HE ONCE CUT THE LEGS OFF STEVE MORRIS'S BED! |
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Ha, ha. I don't really know much about him. Did he suffer from depression? He had epilepsy didn't he? |
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well, its a bit vague whetehr he did suffer from depression or not-i mean according to reports he didnt have a naturally depressive nature to him-it was only wwhen he was put on a strong dosage of medication for his seizures. if you ever want to read a decent enough book about him, i strong;ly recommend 'touching from a distance' by deborah curtis-in spite of the nature of events, its a fantastic read-a great read for insight into curtis's character-he was a racist believe it or not, and treated his wife like absolute shit-having affairs left right and center. he was bonkers-he had a row with rob gretton over something ina studio once and ran around screaming with a table clothe wrapped around his head. 'touching from a distance' is a great read though... |
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I take it Deorah Curtis was his wife? I'll keep any eye out for it. I usually stay away from biographys but I just read one on the Manics that was excellent. I went off them a long time ago, and only like the Holy Bible now but it was a great read. Richey was an interesting character. Didn't Joy Division take their name from the recreaction area in one of the Nazi concentration camps? How much of a racist are we talking about? |
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Hi Ken,have both the box set and the book you mention.Have liked JD since '87(maybe earlier),and still have all the cd's etc.Shame he wasn't around to see the success.Apparently,he liked Kraftwerk! }:> |
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thats right-forget what the book was called, the 'joy divisons'were 'entertainment' wings full of protitutes in the concentartion camps in aushwitz. despite a lot of jd's early imagery, they were interested in nazism. he wasnt THAT much of a racist (dunno how you grade these things) but in terms of harm-not really, just spoke out agaisnt minority communities, but not in public. not defending him but the impression i get was that it wasa part of the 'hate ' element of punk in the late seventies...i dunno though to be sure. |
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yeah-barney claims curtis used to play kraftwerk records before going on stage saying 'listen to this!!!' |
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oh, hi rob by the way!! |
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Is that they 'weren't interested in nazism'? Were they entertainment for the nazis or the prisoners? |
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jd werent interested in the nazi imagery that they have been associated with (a little naive of them perhaps??) i assume the entertainment would be fort the soldiers???... |
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hmmmmm Joy Division - one of the greatest bands to have exsisted in my opinion.... |
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Of course. I'm such a dumb fuck sometimes. |
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no, it could have been for the prisoners, you know how nazis tried to present these camps as nice and cosy places... |
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Albeit macht freit |
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arbeit, you ignorant person |
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Oops. |
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kidding, kidding, my german is limited to three curse phrases, so I shouldn't call anyone names |
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i really like the NIN cover of Dead souls on the Crow soundtrack. i like joy division. when i first heard them though, years ago, it was hard to get used to his off key voice. |
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yes flibertigibbet, i genuinely cannot think of a more important, or brilliant band... |
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apart from godflesh, eh meho? |
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"Leaders of men" has gut-wrenching lyrics powerful stuff... IC really meant it too. Great music I think the Joy division were Jews who were seperated from the rest in the camps & raped bt the SS guards because they were 'pretty'. Dark shit. |
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yeah, yeah... but I wouldn't put 'em on a same level... JD are a lot more publicly recognised and influenced a wider audience |
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check out the production on unknown pleasures-martin hannet was an amzing producer.'decades' is actually the only song i can site that has me blubbing on the spot-not that jd were depressing anything but-i actually find there stuff uplifting, and im sure im not alone. |
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yeah, their sound is what really appeals to me. When i was younger i thought they were just sissy shit, but I really can appreciate them now... The sound is sick and powerful... |
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yeah-its thick and heavy-hard to describe...unknown plasures is suprisngly atmospheric as well as dark.. |
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thanks ken in one of those sales i got all pixies for 6£(irish each) and cocteau twin as well is good to have 80' fav bands :) |
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Typical Commie- too much money to know what to do with :) I like "Love will tear us apart" Vdm did a remix of it on the 20th anniversary of the lead singer hanging himself. Which I thought was very tasteful, esp. as they butchered the song. |
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Shouldn't you be doing something more constructive? Like 'Uni' work! :) |
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Yes I should. I should be doing toutism in south wales coding, but I'm tired and hot from the poorly vented labs so I can't concentrate. |
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Excuses....excuses......always excuses with you Ceri! ;) |
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Best band ever. |
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I have all their "normal" cds and the 'Permanent' collection. '24 hours' is my absolute favourite, the lyrics, the bass..well the whole song. My top 5 would be.. 24 Hours New Dawn Fades Transmission She's Lost Control Insight -P PS. Unknown Pleasures has one of the coolest album covers ever. |
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joy division.....yes yes yes classic =0) song i've been listening to recently - dead souls - glass - in a lonely place |
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no worries jedy-its a good sale-i picked up loads of eno for £3.99-bargain. the album cover from unknown plaesures comes from an old 1970's schooltext book-the 'mountain' formation represents a dying star. factorama. yes steve-the best band ever. was listening to the box set last night-forgot how fucking moving isolation is... |
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Ken: I saw those Eno albums for £3.99. I'm gonna get some next week when I get paid. Bargain eh? What did you get? |
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