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obara
from Utrecht on 2015-11-13 22:40 [#02489922]
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vous-etes A'okay ?
I don't even know who's from Paris in here, I don't think Combo or FabiennePorrais are but - our thoughts etc.
Strange days indeed
Islam is eveel, I hate religion
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obara
from Utrecht on 2015-11-13 22:41 [#02489923]
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Excuse my Engrish
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-13 22:54 [#02489924]
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terrible shame/shocking, destroyed so many peoples lives to accomplish nothing, its all incredibly nihilistic
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-14 01:12 [#02489925]
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I was in Paris a few months ago and I was near some of those places with my 3y daughter, the shopping centre and the museum, to think that this could happen is really shocking and sickens me to my core
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2015-11-14 06:47 [#02489926]
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Sadly, they accomplished the unease of terror and ruined lives. Which was their petty inhuman goal.
I'm wondering when the world is going to wake up to these attacks and stop being so fucking pussyfoot progressive politically correct ladyboys and say look, we have a problem with these people, how about just saying fuck off you can't live here unless you're scanned properly. Not a bad trade off, their trade off is convert or die because god is great. Cunts.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2015-11-14 11:58 [#02489936]
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how would you scan people from other countries? especially if they´re seeking political asylum? dont think theres a proper way to tell the "good ones from the bad ones". dont get me wrong though. im just as pissed.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-14 12:38 [#02489937]
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Terrifying. This is the "new normal" and will only continue. What on earth could stop it, how can you combat people who actively seek martyrdom through suicide attacks on the general public? I daren't turn on the tv news because I know I'll put my foot through it the second I hear any reference to muslims being the real victims because of this wave of islamaphobia which never quite appears despite these attrocities.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-14 12:58 [#02489938]
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although the scale of the murder is enormous and shocking, its had a feeling of inevitability about it, the ISIS situation shouldn't have be allowed to fester, not to say that it would have been avoided but letting a massive death cult grain traction through indecisiveness seems like a bad idea
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-14 13:09 [#02489939]
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what depresses me is how myopic the general public are, im guilty of this myself, little outrage is show for those who died in that bomb in beirut, or that russian plane that was bombed the other week, equally terribly tragic, but it never becomes a serious topic of discussion among the masses until it partially intersects with their own lives
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2015-11-14 14:22 [#02489941]
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It's not islam but real Muslims need to stick their necks out and fight for their religion.
Religion does suck.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-14 14:48 [#02489943]
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oh great another false flag attack by the cabalist banksters and right on cue the sheeple chorus crying "muslims are baa-aad"
what can we do, lets see why not get jewbama to double foreign aid to israel
(I don't think this way, I'm just predicting the smart email fwds I'm going to get from my crazy aunt and uncle)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2015-11-14 17:04 [#02489944]
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the average people can't do shit but going to protests. in the arab countires that it's still permitted. and religion may suck but truth is that religion there is an integral part of the lives of people, just like christianity was in the europe not so long ago, firstly in the language of muslims, and non muslims living in arab countries as well. for example, saying 'god is great' is often used in everyday talk by everyone, so it's kind of sad to see media still evoking those words trying to impress audiences and stigmatize phrases that you can hear even in protests. i never attended one but i bet they use them even in protests against daesh.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-14 18:33 [#02489945]
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yep I recall a right wing news site making fun of a syrian video that showed people reacting to huge explosions with "allahu akbar" but really, that's no different that americans saying "oh my god" and "jesus christ" when they're shocked, you just say it because that's what people in your culture say when you're shocked, it's not religious, it's more like cussing
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2015-11-14 18:48 [#02489946]
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stand tall. persist.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2015-11-14 19:09 [#02489949]
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exactly
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2015-11-14 21:24 [#02489955]
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the thing that annoys me most is how predictable it's all become. some disenfranchised, uneducated, man-children become pregant to hate, give birth to death, new york city reflexively clenches its anus, heads of state appear on TV looking solmen, then we are told our phone calls must be monitored in order for the government to continue being inffectual in breaking the cycle.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2015-11-14 22:40 [#02489958]
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Sadly enough we all live in the period of human dumbness.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2015-11-15 05:41 [#02489961]
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information rage
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truthgong
on 2015-11-17 05:13 [#02489992]
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we are at war with hobos from the desert
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-17 15:49 [#02489994]
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ISIS wants an apocalyptic battle at Dabiq in Syria to fulfill Islamic prophecy. The Paris attacks are one way they're baiting the "infidels" to come fight them there. At first I thought, oof, don't give them the war they want, but maybe if they were decisively crushed there it would shut them down ideologically.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-17 16:46 [#02489995]
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Is that the battle where the Jesus joins them to ensure the world becomes Muslim. It's all a bit like Dungeons & Dragons gone fucky.
Maybe we should go to war with them there, maybe it is true and the fate of the world is to have the infidels swallowed up in the earth in Syria and then everything can carry on nicely with that out of the way. Maybe non-muslims do all need to die or convert? Maybe that's what god's keen on?
I think the year though they're looking at is 2070 in our calendar or something, so we've got a couple of generations of this horsehit to endure so even if we did burn Dabiq into glass they'd still bang on it wasn't the right date and then bomb a kindergarten.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-17 16:47 [#02489996]
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^ yes fulfilling apocalyptic prophecy, their strategy seems to be some what working they now have the west and Russia involved in Syria, close proximity to each other, i dont think it would take much to escalate but i hope it backfires on them, to be honest i cant see the bombing working at all it didnt work in Vietnam or Afghanistan or Iraq in the long run, someone needs to formulate a better way if their is one
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-17 16:48 [#02489997]
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they did blow up all those oil tankers though which did seem sensible, starve them economically
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-17 17:21 [#02489998]
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That's the problem with prophecy, it can always be retconned, like that guy in the states, Elwood Bumbletruck or whatever, who kept pushing back the date of the end of the world when it didn't happen. When all else fails you claim it was symbolic after all, then yes, by all means, bomb something.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-17 17:26 [#02489999]
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coincidentally i read this today
prophecy danger
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korben dallas
from nz on 2015-11-17 18:39 [#02490000]
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at least it's enabled obama and putin to kiss and make up
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2015-11-17 20:43 [#02490001]
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Isis has no power, not the power they project to the western world. They claim responsibility for anything that suits their agenda to seem larger than they are, in an effort to divide the world between believers of their religion and those that do not believe. They tried to claim responsibility for the "seige" here. It was in reality, the fault of one nut bag. Nothing to do with them whatsoever. But hey if it makes the western infidels scared, it's Isis.
They want world war three, but cannot achieve it on their own. They need the people to get angry, to be fearful.
In truth, I think they could not survive a full military assault, the territory they control is far smaller than they would have you think.
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RussellDust
on 2015-11-18 16:57 [#02490004]
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They want Spain (back) as well.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-18 18:11 [#02490005]
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of course they do, spain is awesome
my favorite bits of spain were the arab bits, the alhambra, mezquita etc.
I winder if they'd blow those up, even though they're arab... maybe the architecture isn't ideologically pure enough. The catholics built a big ugly chapel in the centre of the mezquita, I'd tear that out too actually
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-19 01:52 [#02490011]
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fucking hell
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2015-11-19 02:23 [#02490012]
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It's a religion of peace, and the poor terrorists are merely raising awareness to the real atrocities...
which is everything that isn't violently islamic.
Thankfully the non violent islamics have the common decency to not even acknowledge one way or another the disgraceful acts of it followers, and many of its leading imams don't even rise an eyebrow to condeming such acts in the name of their shared god.
Better men than me, one and all. Sorry I mean people, I'm not sexist.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-19 10:48 [#02490013]
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Let me google that for you
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-19 13:34 [#02490015]
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Hmm, like Australia's Egyptian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed who, whilst deploring the atrocities, obvs, blames it on racism, islamaphobia, security measures, measures to prevent terrorism and foreign policy. Doesn't blame it on religion though. Funny, I guess, what with being the fucking Big Mufti. The usual blackmail - try to stop islamic terrorism, and we'll really get terrorist on you, not just this low-level terrorism. And it'll be your fault.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-19 13:46 [#02490016]
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Let me give you an analogy. Some men rape, and while most men condemn rape, some MRA pieces of shit make excuses for how feminism and paying attention to sexism etc. is what really causes rape, and how can you blame these poor men for acting out, and what these uppity women with their blue hair really need is a good old fashioned raping etc. etc.
But that doesn't make all men MRA pieces of shit, or make it insincere when we condemn rape and these MRA cum golems.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-19 13:47 [#02490017]
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And while I don't want to get into a row that I will lose, and I don't want to lose the firm and borderline-sexual intensity of friendship I have with all of you - this shit about "muslims shouldn't have to apologise" and yet, as a white man with all the fucking "power", there's a whole heap of shit I'm meant to feel bad about. And that's me being a member of a race, something I can't change, unlike being an opt-in member of some cult that looks like the a joyless 1.6 million strong Renaissance Fair with shitter costumes, no mead, and no enlightenment.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-19 14:02 [#02490018]
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I don't want to row about it. I grind my teeth about it too much. Things are getting worse, and they are only going to continue in that direction. Whether that's because of Islam or Islamaphobia, either way it'll have fucking Islam in there.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-19 14:18 [#02490019]
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Last thing, any of these twitter fucks who trot out the bit from the Koran
"Anyone who kills a human being ... it shall be as though he has killed all of mankind..."
out of context, should be killed, crucified, have their opposite hands and feet cut off etc., after being forced to read the very next fucking verse in their fucking parody religious book.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-19 14:23 [#02490020]
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just think how organised they have become because of mass communication, the cognitive dissonance involved in using the latest technology to convey the most backward of beliefs is astounding. I wonder if this was foreseen by anyone, bit of future shock
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-11-19 14:51 [#02490021]
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On a related note have you seen the new book by Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz?
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2015-11-20 02:36 [#02490025]
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Pfft. I'm sold. Whom should I feel enough anger to kill in response, oh prophet.
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Combo
from Sex on 2015-11-20 15:24 [#02490029]
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Hello guys, Yes, I live in Paris and yes, I was chilling with friends in a bar 500 meters from the restaurant where 19 people died, when the killingspree happened. But I'm fine.
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Combo
from Sex on 2015-11-20 15:25 [#02490030]
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Fabien still lives in the east of France, as far as I know.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-20 18:07 [#02490032]
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^ glad you arent dead, did you realise something was immediately wrong, how did you react?
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Combo
from Sex on 2015-11-20 19:33 [#02490033]
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We had booked a table in a restaurant in the street where the shootings happened (300 m away). It's a very crowded area on friday nights. After a few drinks in a bar, we arrived near the restaurant at 22:15. People around told us shots had been heard nearby, and that the event was in the news. One of my friends checked his smartphone, saw that several places in the center of Paris and in Saint-Denis had been attacked, and that hostages were locked in the Bataclan. We just wanted to leave the area, hoping we would go in a calm direction, without bad encounter.
Everybody got back home, using the tube (only a few lines had stopped working). Before I went to bed, the radio was talking about around 20 deaths. When I listened again, the morning after, it was 128. I was very shocked. I had to go and buy some food. There was very few people in the streets, a bizarre atmosphere. I didn't stay out long.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-20 19:52 [#02490036]
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^ thanks for the reply, do you think its changed the attitudes of people you know?
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Combo
from Sex on 2015-11-21 11:56 [#02490038]
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I don't know. Some say they are afraid, but I don't know if they'll change their habits.
As for me, I started again to go out normally on monday and went to a concert and in bars this week.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-11-21 21:49 [#02490040]
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^ Glad to hear you have a positive attitude, if it was me id probably hide under my bed for a month,
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