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offline betamaxheadroom on 2014-10-10 01:20 [#02477360]
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it's an honest question. i know i am. are you?

think before you post pls.


 

offline milkywhore from Land of Lion's Milk (Turkey) on 2014-10-10 01:51 [#02477361]
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are you gay? indeed you are


 

offline betamaxheadroom on 2014-10-10 02:38 [#02477368]
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if i was why would that bother you?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2014-10-10 14:55 [#02477373]
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i've always leaned more towards self-determination theory
for an overall picture, but i find the concept of
"self-complexity" to be a very elegant metaphor as well.
defining yourself as a musician is sort of using it as an
identity... pledging allegiance to a tribe, or categorizing
yourself in a way that suits your ego. this is why it's a
bit awkward-feeling to call yourself a "musician" or an
"artist." musician makes you think of egotistical classical
first-chair violin twats, and "artist" makes you think of
mixed-racial chicks who live in new york off the backs of
others. you can call someone else an artist, though, and get
into less trite definitions, e.g. "he's an artist in the
truest sense of the word," e.g. "he's the real deal and not
some image-obsessed twat."

me? it rarely occurs to me to do anything like that. i'll
call myself a "software engineer" but that's more when i'm
looking to get work, and not something that i go around
wearing as a badge of honor. i'm me, all day long, yo. lots
of things in a blender. am i a musician? depends on the
moment and the context


 

offline RussellDust on 2014-10-10 15:34 [#02477374]
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'Yes' or 'no' just too difficult isn't it? ;)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2014-10-10 15:37 [#02477375]
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not difficult, just boring.

(a bit like you, russell... zing)


 

offline djhardcode from Netherlands, The on 2014-10-10 15:42 [#02477376]
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Muzaq


 

offline wavephace from off the chain on 2014-10-10 15:43 [#02477377]
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its a trick question and u fell 4 it


 

offline RussellDust on 2014-10-10 17:15 [#02477381]
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What was boring was your answer, my darling. If you're
confused, that's fine by me, but a more interesting read it
did not make.


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2014-10-11 10:06 [#02477405]
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With music, I'm a better composer than I am a musician. I
can still play guitar and keyboard, but I feel a hardcore
musician is someone who has a solid and deep library of
emotion-to-sound genre/culture experience at heart, who can
express themselves sincerely with sound.

A lot of people who think they're musicians- even if
performing dozens of songs for decades- are mere
technicians. They are the visual arts equivalent of people
who do portrait paintings from single photos, who cannot
even bother to remove glare or film-processing and camera
artifacts, because they don't have an understanding of the
the underlying concepts that were captured. Technicians are
those who are very good- especially- at performing
superficially complex works. They cannot express emotion
with even a few notes, so they sure as fuck can't express
shit with a torrent of notes. After watching every musical
performance in existence on the Ultra Net, I've determined
that technicians make up 76.343% of "musicians".

I feel I've got a solid understanding of music composition,
with regards to expression of ideas and feelings that I'm
into. However- even after 15+ years of electronic music
making and playing keyboards since elementary school cuz
Miami Vice and Beverly Hills Cop theme changed my life- I'm
baaarely being able to see the edge of what it takes to
become an ultra musician. Ultra musicians are the types who
can set the context of the universe by getting settled into
their chair- set the collective consciousness of human heart
as their stage- and they just *express* with their
instrument to the point where the tools become transparent--
they speak of such sincere humanity and can make the hardest
of people cry with the twanging of a single note. Ultra
musicians- IDM as fuck.


 


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