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betamaxheadroom
on 2014-10-10 01:20 [#02477360]
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it's an honest question. i know i am. are you?
think before you post pls.
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milkywhore
from Land of Lion's Milk (Turkey) on 2014-10-10 01:51 [#02477361]
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are you gay? indeed you are
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betamaxheadroom
on 2014-10-10 02:38 [#02477368]
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if i was why would that bother you?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-10-10 14:55 [#02477373]
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i've always leaned more towards self-determination theory for an overall picture, but i find the concept of "self-complexity" to be a very elegant metaphor as well. defining yourself as a musician is sort of using it as an identity... pledging allegiance to a tribe, or categorizing yourself in a way that suits your ego. this is why it's a bit awkward-feeling to call yourself a "musician" or an "artist." musician makes you think of egotistical classical first-chair violin twats, and "artist" makes you think of mixed-racial chicks who live in new york off the backs of others. you can call someone else an artist, though, and get into less trite definitions, e.g. "he's an artist in the truest sense of the word," e.g. "he's the real deal and not some image-obsessed twat."
me? it rarely occurs to me to do anything like that. i'll call myself a "software engineer" but that's more when i'm looking to get work, and not something that i go around wearing as a badge of honor. i'm me, all day long, yo. lots of things in a blender. am i a musician? depends on the moment and the context
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RussellDust
on 2014-10-10 15:34 [#02477374]
Points: 16053 Status: Lurker | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02477373
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'Yes' or 'no' just too difficult isn't it? ;)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-10-10 15:37 [#02477375]
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not difficult, just boring.
(a bit like you, russell... zing)
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djhardcode
from Netherlands, The on 2014-10-10 15:42 [#02477376]
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Muzaq>
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2014-10-10 15:43 [#02477377]
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its a trick question and u fell 4 it
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RussellDust
on 2014-10-10 17:15 [#02477381]
Points: 16053 Status: Lurker | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02477375
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What was boring was your answer, my darling. If you're confused, that's fine by me, but a more interesting read it did not make.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2014-10-11 10:06 [#02477405]
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With music, I'm a better composer than I am a musician. I can still play guitar and keyboard, but I feel a hardcore musician is someone who has a solid and deep library of emotion-to-sound genre/culture experience at heart, who can express themselves sincerely with sound.
A lot of people who think they're musicians- even if performing dozens of songs for decades- are mere technicians. They are the visual arts equivalent of people who do portrait paintings from single photos, who cannot even bother to remove glare or film-processing and camera artifacts, because they don't have an understanding of the the underlying concepts that were captured. Technicians are those who are very good- especially- at performing superficially complex works. They cannot express emotion with even a few notes, so they sure as fuck can't express shit with a torrent of notes. After watching every musical performance in existence on the Ultra Net, I've determined that technicians make up 76.343% of "musicians".
I feel I've got a solid understanding of music composition, with regards to expression of ideas and feelings that I'm into. However- even after 15+ years of electronic music making and playing keyboards since elementary school cuz Miami Vice and Beverly Hills Cop theme changed my life- I'm baaarely being able to see the edge of what it takes to become an ultra musician. Ultra musicians are the types who can set the context of the universe by getting settled into their chair- set the collective consciousness of human heart as their stage- and they just *express* with their instrument to the point where the tools become transparent-- they speak of such sincere humanity and can make the hardest of people cry with the twanging of a single note. Ultra musicians- IDM as fuck.
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