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Obviously not for Rephlex. None on there. How is everyone else taking there music nowadays. Interested. I am mostly buying cd's + vinyl. |
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Plus you can't listen to stuff offline. i.e. no internet init. |
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i stick to what i have, but sometimes reading up on wikipedia leads me to download tangential stuff. or albums i don't have. also new releases. all pirate. when i have money i go and buy some of my favorites. i usually do not have money. |
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listen to mp3s/flacs off a server. copy them too my phone for car. none of that streaming shite; hate it. |
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I started out pirating music. Then I started buying records alongside pirating. Then I stopped buying records but kept pirating. When I started using Spotify, I stopped pirating. Convenience wins. You can listen to stuff offline, but only if you pay. |
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EpicMegatrax do you mean using dropbox opensource clone software like |
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horsefactory I tried spotify as I had a newer quick computer through to my passive PA speakers OK but not as good as local 320kbs files. It is adverts that are a real killer for me. The levels are really high like TV adverts. F**king annoying. Plus it stalled a bit and I had to restart the broswer after a couple of hours. Did not download the app. |
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the bloody hell are you talking about. i said i don't use any of that crap. just a fileserver on my LAN |
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is this a really awkward astroturf attempt or something? becuase if so i'm probably going to vomit all over it. |
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I 'm just interested in different approaches and what works for different people in reality. It is OK using streaming if you have it at home & work. But if you don't, whats the alternatives that is all I'm asking. |
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So people can't mix records using spotify/streaming unless they subscribe to the advert free version. |
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bottom line: i want a high-quality copy of the data in my control, unencrypted, unDRMd, etc. and at that point i have individual solutions i've selected to percolate it out to my car or my living room stereo. i might be sold on streaming if it solved a problem for me instead of creating new ones. i really have no need to live-pull music, aside from auditioning something on youtubes. 16gb on my phone doesn't fit my 200gb music collection, but it's plenty for whatever i'm in the mood for that week. streaming it just means ads, a subscription fee, or worse: data is $$ on the phone. cloud services are security risk. etc etc... not that i care about my music collection getting hacked so much as it's just another thing i have to manage and patch or whatever. |
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i also like vinyl but my record player is a turd and i'm not buying any more vinyl until i replace it with something that is not a turd. buying CDs feels like such a damn waste; rip 'em and never bother further. i think half my autechre CDs are still in the wrappers as i trust the fans to FLAC those up right |
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anyways, for your stand-up meeting, people who have curated digital music (mp3) collections for years are probably going to hate streaming forever. people who haven't are good with spotify for now, but i feel like they'll come my way after a few rounds of frustration and disappointment. no worse customer bitching then when you take something away when they were used to having it (e.g. losing all of warner music catalog due to licensing or whatev) |
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It p*sses me off all this wireless stuff. Whats a matter with a couple of cables if it sounds superior. I'm not going to move my stereo about and I don't want multi-room speakers. Has anyone used the Itunes Match. Is cr*p. Like it is not going to recognise my extensive rephlex collection and downsample it in the cloud. :( |
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using audacious on the desktop. ugly as sin but the keys are the same as winamp. poor dead winamp. miss windows a lot less |
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If you work in an office and some cunt in charge of "the office Spotify" just puts in their favourite artist and you have to listen to the same songs about 5 times in the same day, and the next day, and the next, then yes, Spotisfy is a cunt. |
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I still get most of my music via CDs, my go-to is normally second-hand users on Amazon (usually the British one), you can often get fairly obscure stuff for almost nothing (discluding P&P). I normally have a couple of CDs in-the-post year-round. I love owning the actual albums since album art etc is sometimes part of the experience. I hate the idea of not actually owning the music physically I pirate to try things out but if I intend to listen to it more than once then I tend to get the CD. Getting CDs second-hand has the same effect on the artists as piracy though, they still don't get any money lol I sometimes listen to the actual CDs but mostly I listen via 128k mp3. Most people seem to think you need a much higher bitrate but I've never been able to hear any improvement beyond 128k. However my hearing is actually a bit impaired so maybe that explains it |
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Wireless speakers have the advantage of not having wires that can be chewed by cats. This is only really an advantage if you have cats that like to chew wires. But I generally agree that newer tech does not inherently equal better tech |
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Yep I have been collecting Records & CD's for 25 years being 40. I have about 700 records 2500 Cd's. I normally get all mine off ebay 2nd hand or amazon. Plus sniffing around my local 2nd hand & new shop. Normally paying £5 or less. All the people I know that work in music setting up rigs/PA systems. Real technical deepheads say there is very few records you need to encode higher than 320kps even to play through a big rig. Most of it is just audio snobbery & people with too much cash. I still use my 1980's torque vavle head amplifier. All my money is in quality cables and speaker drivers. I just p*sses me off like paying £25 for the new aphex on triple vinyl if all the people on spotify/youtube can listen to it for free with bloody adverts. Even though it better to have the real physical item. |
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so yeah. 'cos of this thread, i actually went and busted it all out of the wrappers and now it's on this fucking IKEA rack in my living room and i'll have to dust it off in about six months. anyways, the answer is: only confield and untilted were shrinkwrapped. i thought i owned tri repeatae, but i do not. i bought what i thought was the gescom minidisc and got a CD edition instead. i find buying physical music things to be a remarkably foul experience, these days. i'd be interested in that laser-cut syro art some DR intern designed, but i have so many interesting beer bottles on my fireplace mantle already; no room. this all may change in a decade. my car has usb ports, and if the car's mp3 player weren't awful, i would not even trifle with transferring stuff to my fone and bluetooth and shit; i'd just have a full set of usb teeth chattering around in the glove compartment. until russian hackers start infecting car computers with bitcoin-demanding virii via usb/bluetooth/wifi, anyways... |
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I pay for a spotify-like service (currently rdio, but I move around), because (a) the recommendations are a great way to find new music and keep things fresh, and (b) their playlist selection is pretty good. I still buy lots of music, but prefer digital, since I move around a lot and only use CDs once (to rip them). When buying digital music, I check services like bandcamp first, since I know the artist is getting a big cut in that case. I wish I knew the cut on bleep, which I purchase lots of music from (which I can't find via google play store, etc). I still buy some CDs, since lots of excellent electronic music from the early 90s seems to only be found on discogs (well, and soulseek, I guess). |
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I've heard good things about Spotify, apparently it is finally coming to Canada soon |
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it doesn't work in Canada? didn't know that. doesn't surprise me, though -- those sort of random restrictions are really what kill it. like, you can't listen to Nirvana on Thursdays as part of a licensing agreement with Universal Music Poop. i understand liking the recommend-o-matics; they can be QUITE GOOD. but, they have to learn you well to recommend stuff usefully. you put in a time investment generating that data profile, which they turn around and sell. if this is worth it to you, cool. myself, i have a backlog of things to listen to. always finding more, just by teasing at the edges; looking up who produced what or remixed who etc etc. more fun to do it myself. |
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Well, as I said, I still do it your way a lot (buying/listening as usual, I also stream locally as you do, maybe even the same software (mpd for now, which unfortunately is laggy, but decent for whole-album listening)). I tried one of these services for a month and then quit for a few months. I found that I was discovering a lot less music, and moreover was fairly more risk-averse with what I was discovering. So I got back in. Admittedly, the privacy concerns don't really bother me in this case. I'm saying that as someone who doesn't use facebook, g+, etc., for whatever that's worth. |
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bottom line, i accept that these things can be of value to people and go for it duder. i post my autistic bitching because i feel like everyone probably feels these gripes as well, just not as intensely. i like the internet, because when i try to discuss the injustice of streaming with people in reality, they just look at me like i'm monoid. |
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since we're here: i bought J~A~S by teh S~P on bleep as FLAC/MP3 and it was one of my earlier digital purchases. i can't offer much from my empty wallet, but bleep does have my respect for doing it right. amazon's 320k mp3 seems a bit cheesy next to outright FLAC. class. |
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rdio is mean, and with adblock runnin i dont hear no ads which is nice |
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meh, I give them their $10. unclear how long they'll last. |
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F**k it I have deduced streaming is not for me. Valve amp wired via computer and PA speakers. I am going to sell my vinyl and buy some top tweeters + bass bin to melt my tiny little mind. Vinyl seems pointless unless you have a really good platter to spin it on. Thanks Xltronic.... |
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"F**k it I have deduced streaming is not for me" Same here. |
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I am still listening to streams of aphexs teins 'Avril 14th"' slowed down by 900000000000.2 percentages.. .. I got a bit bored 3 weeks in....ran out of food... ate weeds (which are actually rather mineral rich and quite well recommended.. well, exept teh ones with slug trails on...lavaely.,...... and I drank rain waters too. Then, I found I could exist from only 'light' and the sound of 'Avril' itself...... I am now floating 30 foot above my head, typing using only the power of my dreams , I am not actually on any internits package...I never have been, this whole time on xlteas.... ..i've not even EVER used 'an' browser... Yes.!! and geus what./.. ... . .. . . . . . . . come down here a little more.. . . .. ... . ... . . . . . . . . . It's not true! !! |
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You really got me in the end! |
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tnx dusty : p |
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u should try deadbeef |
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the verdict is in: essentially because of jnasato's "don't wank too much, it wires you to expect immediate pleasure and this eventually fucks you over" rationale. there is even a helpful internet graphic on the history of loudness designed by one Christopher Clark. no, it's not that Christopher Clark. pretty much, i'd feel like i was farting in the eye of god if i did not post this here |
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shorter mic: no one eats a whole chicken any more, its bad, data compression is the same as dynamic compression, you should listen to music like a dead billionaire |
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click bait web 2.0 neo tabloid trash |
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also there saying how bad mp3 compression is in a pic with sooooo bad jpg compression lol |
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i think i just trolled wavephace |
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