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wavephace
from off the chain on 2014-01-24 21:12 [#02466413]
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so if spotify costs $10 to sign up each month and "company estimates that the average song generates between $0.006 and $0.0084 per stream in royalties" then say u use a 24 hr broad band internet connection to sign up and stream ur own songs 24/7. say u played a 3 minute song over and over, u could play it 14400 times in a month
that means spotifys paying u $86.4 a month on the LOW END which is way more than ur paying them to stream ur song over and over. there basicly GIVING U FREE MONEY
why arent more ppl doing that????
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2014-01-24 21:55 [#02466415]
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I'll forward your ill informed daft foundings to spotify now.
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RussellDust
on 2014-01-24 22:02 [#02466416]
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Ha ha! Poor wavey can't catch a break with you!
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-24 22:05 [#02466417]
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seems daft, but then i think back to all the free shit i got courtesy of the first dot com boom before it went bust. "affiliate programs" ten years ago simply didn't factor in a dude with a domain name, an email server, and the ability to make infinite new emails.
silicon valley has its head up its ass (again) and it would not surprise me if spotify simply didn't account for sad, bored nerds trying to squeeze 2-3 pizza pies a month out of 'em. let me know if this works, i think the modern equivalent would be to create multiple paid accounts, farm it out to cloud accounts, turn that $86.4 into $860.40, u noe?
on the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if spotify counted all your 14400 plays as 300 plays or something, with the argument that "replays don't count" simply 'cos it costs 'em less to take that stance. greed always conquers stupidity at some point.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-24 22:06 [#02466418]
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also i still wear my asimba.com polar fleece sometimes, can't even remember what the fuck that site did, all it took was creating ten email addresses, now i'm part of the asimba.com "team elite" or someth.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2014-01-24 22:20 [#02466422]
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how do i put my songs on spotify
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-24 22:33 [#02466426]
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pay tunecore additional moneys to do it for you.... and there goes your profit, sorry.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2014-01-24 22:57 [#02466433]
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spotifys a frikin racket
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2014-01-24 23:02 [#02466434]
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Pics or it doesn't happen
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2014-01-24 23:32 [#02466440]
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you can sign up on cd baby and release a single for $13 one time fee and they put it on spoitify and all those places. but how much of ur $0.006 cents per track do they take thats the real question
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Advocate
on 2014-01-24 23:40 [#02466441]
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someone somewhere is acting bad, stealing your money, tasting your tasty pee -- the one with an odur as yellow as its taste is different .... very urine... it's a fight we want, and it's a fight we will get. urine, excrement and blood. the holy unity -- nay, the holy trinity of combined trurth ..........
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Advocate
on 2014-01-24 23:42 [#02466443]
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and that's all she wrote
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2014-01-27 04:35 [#02466488]
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Hey, pretty cool idea. Due to replays prolly not counting within a certain time period, create a script that scans a lot of proxies to connect from, then stream track a few times, then change proxy- repeat. This could actually work. And then due to rankings, your track could eventually get to the top, and due to people listening to top ranked tracks, this could gain actual traction. If the song is actually really good, then this could create an actual fan base.
I remember around 2000, there were a few companies doing the "pay to browse" model, which would use a banner app to show ads whilst one browsed the web. It monitored general usage and one actually had to browse to make money (not just keep the tracking app open). So then some dyudes wrote scripts that would move your mouse around randomly to prevent the tracker from sleeping, as well as open random websites in your browser, to keep the internet going. This actually worked to make money. I knew a few people doing this in art school, and some people were making several hundred a month.
So it's prolly a good idea to get on this spotify hackingz immediately, because it does sound viable (the proxy changing model, anyway). I have fiber optic connection, so I could run several dozen instances at a time, without hickup. Their system prolly also tracks from where a listener came, so it'd be ideal if the script sent references to an actual promotional website (that the browser clicked-in through there).
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-27 20:23 [#02466513]
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i did all that shit for a while. automated mouser on AllAdvantage, milking referral offers for amazon.com gift certs, running a banner FTP site (paid for my first laptop off that one). gradually it dried up; got a lot harder. i went off to college and didn't have the time. then i got a job and made lots more from that than any of the scams, so stuck with it.
take a good look at that kim dotcom chap. he's where you wind up if you take this shit to the end of the line: megaupload was essentially the world's biggest, most profitable banner FTP site. made him much more than the stolen credit card numbers he dealt with before.
for me, he ruins it. i don't feel right doing that crap anymore, at least at the level required to replace my job. when i was 16 it was exciting and fun to bend the law and get free shit, and i didn't feel guilty at all. if the guys had a clue, i wouldn't be able to scam them, right?
but dotcom makes it painfully clear: it's dirty. it's squeezing yourself in as an unnecessary middleman; making money off others' work while contributing almost nothing to the world in return. you have to basically bathe in shit all day before you can live off of it. i believe in dotcom's right to run his sketchy shit without government meddling, but i ain't doing it myself.
on the other hand, wavephase is probably 15 and living in mums basement with only the stop & shop deli for job opportunities. given that, i say go for it, just please shoot to get an actual job within a few years
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2014-01-27 21:23 [#02466527]
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Money money money money
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