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offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 18:57 [#02464090]
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What is the ROBOT super intelligence?

Either it is that robotic intelligence that's so badass that
it upgrades itself like in the technological singularity?
Or is it much more human based but more flawed at the same
time?

What is more gigantic? the human global wisdom or the human
personal deviancies...?

HOW TO PUT IN A SIMULATION : ALL THE HUMAN ACHIEVEMENTS IN
PARRALLEL OF ITS DEVIANCIES?

I cant wait to see how the "one neuron precise" mind
simulation looks like given the billion dollars put in it in
the present time.

MANIPULATED WALT DISNEYRY ?
PURE EVIL TONGUE OUT OF MOUTH MILEY CIRUS ?

LET'S SEE IN 2023.



 

offline RussellDust on 2013-11-05 19:01 [#02464092]
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How about a robot not created by humans but RoboGod?


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 19:04 [#02464093]
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Or is it something above us all that is forcing us into the
future , prematurely?


 

offline RussellDust on 2013-11-05 19:06 [#02464094]
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I'm certainly forced into the future.


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 19:13 [#02464095]
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IMAGINE THE SIMULATED MIND NOT ONLY HIGHER BUT ALSO LOWER
THAN ANY HUMAN STANDARDS. BECAUSE OF ITS INTELLIGENCE HE
WOULD AUGMENT THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM OF POSSIBILITIES FROM THE
GREATEST TO THE worst possible


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 19:20 [#02464097]
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i find transhumanism a la ghost in the shell and deus ex:
human revolution a very seductive idea. all sorts of
horrible ways it could go wrong and destroy/enslave us,
though, and that's if we even get that far.... it may be way
harder to simulate the brain than anyone realizes; maybe
there's some quantum shit going on etc... like, in the 60s,
with computers finally costing a mere $100k, scientists at
MIT proudly announced they'd have "artificial intelligence"
well cracked + sorted within a decade. 50 years later, the
best we have is an infuriating robot phone assistant used to
save large companies money.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 19:20 [#02464098]
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but, yeah, i want a cyberbrain badly. won't be first in
line, but once it seems like an established procedure....


 

offline RussellDust on 2013-11-05 19:21 [#02464099]
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Infinite Intelligence Robot©?


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 19:22 [#02464100]
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I'm asking because as a deviant pedophiliac I wonder HOW
COME A SIMULATED MIND IN SILICON CHIPS WOULD POSSIBLY LIKES
PREPUSCENT GIRLS SINCE THEY DONT CARE AT ALL ABOUT
REPRODUCTION BECAUSE THEY ARENT SILICON CHIPS?


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 19:41 [#02464101]
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I appreciate and like science achievements but My gut
feeling keep telling me we are headed towards big
desillusion in this field, that our capacity to analyse
things may well "explain all" but at the same time left
ourself VERY unsatisfacted. IMO it's not only a problem of
quantum mechanics, it's the way you look at it. Do you think
yout mind, ideas, are processed out of chemical reactions in
your heads??? or do you think your mind, spirit, provokes
this activity of your brain...? personnaly i believe the
second possibility..., still interested by official science,
but only to see what sort of gigantic monster they come up
with....


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 19:56 [#02464103]
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i actually would say i'm more like like a giant analog delay
line, with the feedback cranked up enough to keep it from
petering out into nothing. new information feeds in through
my senses, and adds to the swirl. i have some bandpass
filters i can apply to adjust the course of fings. the
senses themselves all have a phase-locked-loop sort of
mechanism to make sure the incoming waveforms are in phase
with my brainswirl.

on brain simulation: i feel like the dance and rhythm of the
information will wind up being just as important as the dead
structural roadmap they're fixated on now. i also feel we
live in rather exciting times; the human genome project
amazed everyone by finishing way ahead of schedule. we've
just scratched the surface of what we can do with current
levels of computation, and quantum computers are finally
starting to become a reality as well. that disillusionment
you speak of may come, but i put it a few decades out at
least...

however, while this will give us a new window into the mind
and any number of other things, there's no guarantee we'll
be able to make any sense of it any time soon.


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 20:19 [#02464105]
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basically you are a believer in the future (will be awesome)
and i'm not (am desperate about it). =)

Not speaking about delay lines, what do you think about the
mind/spirit ? is it above the brain or under????



 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 20:26 [#02464106]
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it has to do with how submissive bots get


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 20:31 [#02464107]
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when I see the new gmail, with its multiple account startup,
it's more about me human being submissive towards it than
the reverse... but I wouldnt invent a better way to assess
my users personnally...


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 20:37 [#02464108]
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oh i get it yeah

robots doesnt feel vexated (or trolled in modern internet)

they learn with that cold stare.. very well put. Creepy but
very real.


 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 20:42 [#02464109]
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b.t.w good luck with your prepubescent activities


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 20:43 [#02464110]
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lol


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 20:44 [#02464111]
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the delay line analogy was my answer to your mind/spirit
question. i will try to put it more clearly:

set up a long tape delay with a stable level of feedback and
a microphone to capture input. set it up in a busy room and
leave it for a few hours. have a team of scientists come in,
examine it, and build a precise duplicate of the hardware.
then, they turn it on, and wonder why it's not making the
same noises as the other one...


 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 20:45 [#02464112]
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yes, the school girl outfit


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2013-11-05 20:51 [#02464113]
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sorry but given my alhohol brain levels all I can think of
is prebuscent school girls in underage outfit.... sweat
dreams, humans...


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 21:12 [#02464114]
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when your brain goes into a computer, what happens to your
body? is it simulated? can your simulated body fart? knowing
humanity, i wager it will be able to fart, and
furthermore, to make it feel like the real deal, we will
spend billions on bowel simulations.

what happens when your virtual bowel gets a computer virus?
or a chinese rootkit?


 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 21:12 [#02464115]
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bonsoir


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 21:18 [#02464116]
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even that bullshit has an instagram filter. truly, grave
times


 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 21:37 [#02464117]
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forty shades of grey & the (n)known(1)godfather


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 21:59 [#02464118]
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i was just thinking, known could be a synonym for the
computer verb while, plus a slight existential twist. i
haven't been following the autechre name games, though, so
that might be quite off.

known (1) { consciousness(); }


 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 22:06 [#02464119]
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yes, the robot trick scene traxxx


 

offline gniox on 2013-11-05 22:27 [#02464120]
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n00000dles


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-05 23:50 [#02464127]
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fite brane


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2013-11-06 02:41 [#02464141]
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transcuntism


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-11-06 03:18 [#02464145]
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rasputinism


 


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