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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-29 23:09 [#02462184]
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so this site is probably shit now for a bunch of reasons. some of it is because of members growing up, ppl not fixing the site, others have moved to talking on facebook. but the real reason is a fuck-it-nothing-works-it's-all-deeply-bad sort of take on the world. i wonder where that comes from...
some things are bad we know this. strange that we give up on it all tho. let me help u out a bit.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-29 23:23 [#02462187]
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the SICK TIMES come from noam chomsky.
you may not realise that because you dont read chomsky's stuff (it seems that not a lot of people do) but his tireless work on smearing american governments has had a profound effect on any minds with liberal left leanings. his work has had a strange kind of trickle down effect. he has been doing this since vietnam.
"Recent research on citations in three different citation indices show that Professor Chomsky is one of the most cited individuals in works published in the past 20 years."
"Indeed, Professor Chomsky is in illustrious company. The top ten cited sources during the period were: Marx, Lenin, Shakespeare, Aristotle, the Bible, Plato, Freud, Chomsky, Hegel and Cicero"
LAZY_TITLE
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-09-30 00:32 [#02462189]
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Listen to Sick Times and read this
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-09-30 00:39 [#02462190]
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Alex Jones called Chomsky a shill for teh new rorld order one time. I've listened to some of his talks, he has good vocabulary and is articulate, but its usually not as interesting as other things I could be watching instead.
This was kind of interesting: LAZY_TITLE I got there via a link from a stefan molyneux/peter joseph debate (note that debate wasn't very good watching, just a big long messy clash of separate memetic ideologies that doesn't go anywhere).
But while the above link is interesting, and 'structural violence' is an interesting concept, the zeitgeist movement is likely a socialist planned society where many would have to be forced to participate and those who build the overarching science based supposedly benevolent supercomputer dictator would just control everyone else indirectly. A stateless voluntary freedom based society is probably the better solution. You would then have competing companies in the business of force, rather than a single company called the government. And if AT&T was seen to be purchasing a lot of force, one could vote with ones dollars against AT&T, as opposed to the current situation where you HAVE to fund the single force monopoly via taxes.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-30 02:18 [#02462194]
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*** please ignore all black+white avatars ***
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-09-30 03:03 [#02462195]
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Hey that's racist.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-30 03:11 [#02462196]
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noam chomsky is probably the intellectual figure most responsible for our opinion on intervention and foreign policy. but can we trust him?
In the 90's yugoslavia was going thru some shit. there were concentration camps.
here is chomsky denying the existence of the camps more than 10 years later in an interview for serbian tv.
LAZY_TITLE the seriousness of this may be lost on some of you.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-30 03:26 [#02462200]
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this is the picture chomsky says was faked by british media
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-09-30 03:31 [#02462201]
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There does seem to be a trend among hard-left thinkers, that goes: If it's anti-American (or anti-Israel), then it's good by definition.
Thus you get people like Chomsky and Galloway being apologists for the Yugoslav war criminals, Saddam, the Iranian cleric barbarian-ocracy, etc. And being dicks to Israeli people just because of where they are from even if they have nothing to do with their government or military.
I know some people IRL that think like this too. It's fucking stupid
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-30 03:36 [#02462202]
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"...it was probably the reporters who were behind the barb-wire, and the place was ugly, but it was a refugee camp, I mean, people could leave if they wanted and, near the thin man was a fat man and so on, well and there was one tiny newspaper in England, probably three people, called LM which ran a critique of this, and the British (who haven't a slightest concept of freedom of speech, that is a total fraud)…a major corporation, ITN, a big media corporation had publicized this, so the corporation sued the tiny newspaper for lible. Now the British lible laws were absolutely atrocious. The person accused has to prove that the, what he's reporting is not done in malice and he can't prove that. So and in fact when you have a huge corporation with batteries of lawyers and so on, carrying out a suit against the three people in the office, who probably don't have the pocket-money, it's obvious what is going to happen. Especially under these grotesque lible laws."
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-09-30 04:07 [#02462203]
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your sicktimes-ism comes from shifty people.
alongside chomsky, tariq ali was also involved in defending the living marxist (publication that had to be taken to court for claiming the pictures of fikret alic were false). he also likes to go on about american foreign policy and gets big applause when he does so.
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tremiie
on 2013-09-30 19:23 [#02462212]
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Ring-a-ring o' roses, A pocket full of posies, A-tishoo! A-tishoo! We all fall down
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2013-10-01 05:51 [#02462241]
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There are no sick times for where i live, every time i look out of the window I can't see anything going on, it's really quite and i see kids playing and having a good time, the neighbours seem really happy too for some reason. When i turn on the news it's terrible, seems like everything is falling apart, but i just don't feel very affected by it, makes me feel guilty.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-10-01 06:15 [#02462242]
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2013-09-09 03:03 [#02461386] Points: 8127 Status: Regular topic: u dont get what im saying i dont read noam chomsky
surprise surprise, i'm surprised you i read at all coming out with the shit you have lately. youtube generation in full effect
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-01 14:53 [#02462246]
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OK DUDE. here's a thing what you said one time:
"you think we'd allow hours of buzzing pilotless surveillance followed by a military strike on a shitload of entirely innocent civilians because they might be thinking things we don't like? it'd be fucking instant war, and while i understand geopolitics isn't exactly black and white our government are a bunch of sickening hypocrites for their complicity in this shit".
belb that sounds reeeally youtube. like i click on your channel and you have 'american idiot' in your favs.
reading on drones. christine fair explains
youre silly if you think me not reading chomsky makes me look stupid. i clearly have been reading his stuff and he's clearly a revisionist! his political views arent very smart and most people who read his stuff have been forced to admit that.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-01 15:13 [#02462247]
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also you seem to not have understood. chomsky denying the yugoslavia camps isnt my detective work.
read
read
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so the youtube thing you said to me was dumb.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-01 18:56 [#02462256]
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so yeah what do you think about all this huh.
-with the drones its a grey area. without reliable info from the people of pakistan/fata or the cia we cant tell whether drones are doing good shit or some bad shit. the more i look into it the more it seems pakistan wants and desperately needs drones support.
-chomsky is bad. he is at the heart of a skewed interpretation of our times. he has loads of mates and fans and they are vomiting up things like 'the cia made the taliban' and 'jews are controlling foreign policy' all the shitting time for 10 shitting years solid.
im still looking into it.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-10-01 19:49 [#02462260]
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zactly, what the fuck do we really know in the west, about the isi's real opinion of the drone war or any other disparate or organised group, pakistani politics is a bloody swamp.
you might read but you swallow like a slag, follow yr sources
oh and that targetting and assination of a 16yr old american citizen in yemen by drones was nothing to worry about? it's not just pakistan
in ten years they'll be tiny and basically just background like the cctv we all accept. and then one day they'll be armed
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-01 20:31 [#02462263]
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yeah was it this? not exactly concrete stuff is it. anyway i'll see.
as for chomsky he says in 2006 the bosnian camps were faked by british media and he meant it so he's a conspiracy theorist. i'll search his works for more full of shit revising of historical fact and report back. i think we'll find this isn't really a one off
just to recap: chomsky's words
video
transcript: http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20060425.htm
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-10-01 20:44 [#02462264]
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it's a much bigger insoluble issue than proving one man was right or wrong on one specific issue (however much influence he has on "the left") and i hope you realise this
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-01 21:29 [#02462267]
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yeah of course. im still looking into it. and im also sure u can see that this highlights some serious concerns about important figures closely associated with the anti war, anti israel, anti west zeitgeist
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-02 03:37 [#02462273]
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btw i wasn't saying the 16yo boy 'wasn't concrete stuff' incase i confused u. that link was a survey used in that christine fair article. i was agreeing that christines sources on drones arent great in that article.
yeah the thing with the teenage boy Abdulrahman was complicated. his dad was a major target. i dont really know how the americans and yemeni share intel or which side is making the decisions on targets but i dont know why they killed the boy like 2 weeks after his dad.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-04 03:35 [#02462323]
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ive been looking into the sick times.
far less relevant than chomsky is this dude called peter oborne here in england. his name probably rings bells cos he writes for the telegraph and the mail. ewww. he hated blair a lot and he kept popping up in dispatches documentaries like 'Muslims Under Siege' and 'The Pro-Israel Lobby' and shit like that. he did a lot for making the sick times seem real sick
anyway he recently wrote this book A Dangerous Delusion: Why the West are wrong about Nuclear Iran which sounds like it's going to be packed with bullshit. Peter wrote the book with David Morrison who feels he has to tell everyone about the real story of srebrenica
i still dont get why these sort of leftists all denied the srebrenica thing. this is interesting dudes we should talk about this.
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-10-04 03:44 [#02462324]
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They denied Srebenica because the Yugoslavs were anti-American - therefore angels who could do no wrong! I don't think there's anything more to it than that.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-04 04:04 [#02462325]
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when i started looking into chomsky i had absolutely no idea i'd ever find anything like this. i imagined he'd be guilty of stretching a few truths which was all i was looking for really. this really surprised me and im worried by how many of his fans simply made excuses/ignored what he did here
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-05 01:07 [#02462359]
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when i started looking into this; i got into this. this is serious to me.
i found more sick times....john pilger
- the CIA didnt train osama bin laden btw. - john pilger will tell you different - john is another one of them sick times dudes telling you all to feel guilty.
- john is hanging out with chomsky here at IOPS - john made this documentary: dongumentary
im drunk today so help me out. what do you think of these sick times we are reconsidering?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-05 01:35 [#02462362]
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well anyway
your sick times really are this:
- 50% : winner-takes-all capitalism - no society - 25% : christian fucked up feelingz - censored* - 20% : chomsky sick times - the government lies - 5% : scared of new future - scary
*this is complicated stuff. i havnt looked into it. serious creepy
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 03:12 [#02462363]
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how boss he is
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 03:13 [#02462364]
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because it hertz
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 03:14 [#02462365]
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anyways the reds knew of the existence of the T brothers
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 03:14 [#02462366]
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how scared they were
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-10-05 03:20 [#02462368]
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I don't know, I'm drunk too lol
I just hate people who view the world through a lens of dogma - be it religious or political. Same bullshit. Like the Chomskyites who interpret the world through a "anti-american=good" lens. Or the libertarians who are incapable of comprehending that Free Markets might not be able to solve some problems. Or the nationalists of any country who think their country is absolutely definitely THE BEST IN THE WORLD because of bullshit half-made-up reasons x,y,z. It's exactly the same as when religious people tell you that the totally victimless act that you are committing is EVIL because of their ancient fairytale bullshit.
Religious dogma = political dogma = gobshite. All dogmas fuck off yo
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 03:24 [#02462369]
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the t brothers are interesting theory
somehow i doubt they acted alone.
I felt the same way about the Libya bombing quite honestly
People knew months in advance
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 03:38 [#02462370]
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Don't blame all the boss/herzt people though
One of detroit dudes indicated crotia is a great time
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 04:50 [#02462371]
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it was unusual how viral the innocence of the muslims vid was & then shortley after trayvon got thugged by that broken hearted mommas boy pfft
busted lulz
almost wonder if former u.s military in africa had something to do with it
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 06:49 [#02462372]
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hes taking the blinders off those four horses & then the unicorns come down from a great height
expecting thing it iz
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-05 13:55 [#02462375]
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U.S. Savage Imperialism by noam chomsky. this looks good dosnt it. ill buy u one for christmas
IOPS site
"when you visit the IOPS vision statement you will see visionary aims that focus on culture, kinship, politics, economics, international relations and ecology. we aim to transform the governing values and institutions in all areas of social life and do not privilege any one focus over the rest."
sounds like the kind of wishwash the whole world has been holding it's breath for!
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 18:23 [#02462378]
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excuse me sir...
how much bus fair it iz
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-10-05 19:11 [#02462382]
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you're mainly talking to yrself here ampi. no debate will ensue and by trying to "educate" a dead site you only waste your own time. we've all got the internet built on rare metals from congolese mines, we all have access to five-eyes monitored search engines, we can all just about fucking read. i say again: waste of your time
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 19:35 [#02462383]
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Congo!
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 19:36 [#02462384]
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anyways i wish the west would stop theorizing that tech is innately western
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 19:52 [#02462385]
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i'm a mentally retarded individual is what my problem iz
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2013-10-05 20:03 [#02462386]
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No, it's more that you are boring.
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 20:30 [#02462387]
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the intelligence community
supposedly al shabaab is linked to u.s terrorist organizations & osoma's father is a drone commander
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-10-05 21:14 [#02462395]
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DRONE COMMANDER
would be a sweet job title
better might be:
DRONE RANGER
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-05 22:00 [#02462398]
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the murder boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ccXPwzV6k
calligraphy iz ill imho
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RussellDust
on 2013-10-05 22:01 [#02462399]
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"we can all just about fucking read"
:D
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-10-07 04:34 [#02462466]
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well i disagree. this isnt a pointless exercise yet. i agree about the " around the word "educate" tho
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RussellDust
on 2013-10-07 08:51 [#02462467]
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It's not pointless at all. belbezuth just means here.
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tuptuo
on 2013-10-07 17:51 [#02462475]
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LAZY_ACUMEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD17WyYkS0k
damn negros
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