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'So the reason I congratulate you on feeling fear is that the desire of your true self it to leave a corrupt family. Because your true self is killed everyday that you’re in that corrupt situation. It is murdered, it is buried, it is raised, it’s murdered, it’s buried.. this is the feelings of your true nature and of reality.' 'But, your true self has absolutely no problem getting away from your family. Your true self is desperately trying to get away from your family, because your true self is being murdered by your family everytime you’re in contact with them and everytime you think about them and everytime you see them and everytime they call. It’s another stab in the heart of your true self ' 'That’s what you feel. You don’t feel ‘but once I get to the surface, what then?’ No, you’re like ‘my god, just get me to the surface and all will be well. And I’ll never worry about a damn thing again in my life!’’' Seriously, if you take this guy seriously, just take a step back and look at what he's saying. Just ask yourself, 'where's the empirical evidence for a "true self"?' If you believe this stuff, how can you argue that a soul doesn't exist? |
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Do you have a link to the rest of this talk/text/whatever. I like his videos about anarchy/voluntaryism/non aggression principle/trolling school/free market/etc. Closest thing I've seen him discuss to this is 'don't hang around people who advocate violence against you', which according to him is also people that advocate laws/tax/etc statist things, which I guess does have a slight scientology cult leave-your-family-so-we-can-better-brain-wash-you feel. Almost nobody will agree 100% with what anybody else says. |
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I guess idiots are allowed their say, but my goodness what a top prat. Did a bit of research after seeing this thread. No wonder our in house wacky deep thinker is interested. |
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Yes! Thank you for taking an analytical approach and thinking through the implications of what he's saying. So few of the nobs who follow this guy are capable of that despite how they glorify "reason" (i.e. agreeing with Stef). These ideas he's promoting about true selves and true reality are metaphysical, platonic, and yes even theological. Stef is not a thinker and doesn't see the sparks when his ideas grind against each other. I've posted before but it summarizes so much so well so here it is again! |
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Perhaps even more so! |
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I'm a bit scared and hesitant to say this but i think everything is truth. |
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I think you're everything, sugar balls. |
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The core interesting stuff SM talks about is anarchy/free market/non-aggression/voluntaryism/peaceful parenting/etc, so this wishy washy philosophical stuff is the wrong thing to focus on imo. I watched the above video, one of the least interesting I've seen but also old. Prattles on in the beginning and I would have skipped it, not a good epitome of his better ideas. All the anarchy stuff can be disputed too of course, but I consider his ideology one of the most intellektUALLIY STimuLAYTING and worthy of MEMETIC VIRAL SPREAD to infect you all with anarchy until society crumbles and dies, for I am g'mork, the servant behind the nothing, and trying to help the emptiness that is left, the despair destroying this world. Some argue that anarchy is tyranny disguised behind a rhetoric of liberty, like evil big business trying to crush the main thing that holds it in check, government. Stormcloudsgathering debated him recently but it was a shitty video. Also willcutts but that wasn't spectacular either (better than the former). I just know the current system sucks a left nut and a right nut, and children are held prisoner in artificial hell pits causing them to grow into corrupt adults who think abraham lincoln once traveled 10 miles to return a penny, when he was a predator lawyer who once peed on an entire crowd and roasted babies or something. |
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He proposes that a free market is the only nonviolent solution for a peaceful society. That's bullshit and comes entirely from his fetish for Ayn Rand. Capitalism has some major flaws and can by no means guarantee a peaceful society, even if all tax-based governments disappear. While I agree with non-aggression and peaceful parenting, I have to call bullshit when I see it. And when it comes to Stef there's a christload to see. A quick skim over will prove that. When it comes to criticism, Stef often behaves in an incredibly hostile and slimy manner. Seek out the articles on that site that document his reactions to in-depth criticisms of his UPB book. So many good-natured people who just wanted to help him see his errors (and who also invested a twatload of their time) were attacked, ignored, and banned. The very same thing happened when his beliefs surrounding childhood trauma stuff was called into question — when he was presented with evidence from that contradicted his claims. I know a great many people (personally too, including myself and my current g/f) who have been very badly affected by Molyneux's dogmatic belief system and his slaveish community of parrots. And for that reason, I much prefer the idea of other people preaching non-violence without all the bullshit and manipulation attached. |
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Thanks for sharing! What an interesting fellow :) |
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People tend to think of anarchy as something terrible. That the biggest bullies will take over. Yet isn't that already the case? |
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What we need is a change of bullies. Get the state out of the workplace so employers can make pregnant women , as God intended. |
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Two words: Texas Catheter. I hate how pregnant women pee more often. It's a real problem and it should be tackled. It's money needed for those with higher ranks, so they can enjoy fancy dinners and prostitutes. It's money down the drain/toilet. Pee is money. |
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- anarchy would be shit. yes we would have worse bullies. obviously. you want to be free + want to be selfish. youre getting it wrong |
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you are scared of guilt cos it connects you to people. tell ppl they are responsible for themselves. all of you alone and its all competition. cry when a really ambitious man controls you. but its the jungle you asked for. |
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Who on earth are you talking about? |
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whatever bye |
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I'm just being silly in this thread but i was wondering what you were on about. I hate people who can't settle things quickly. Why not simply answer such an easy question. People tend to say "whatever" when they don't have much to say. I'll admit that sometimes it can be due to lack of patience. |
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ah its just impatience. razor social anarchism didnt work. authority emerges (a less justified authority). obviously. people keep talking about no authority. |
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russ do you not know what i mean? u can tell i dont have the words |
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really? it's just the wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism |
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Listening to man is always interesting and fun. |
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No idea who this guy is but he seems like a twat. I'm all for more individual responsibility, but full-on libertarianism could never work - there are too many real-world problems that individualism simply cannot fix. Plus if you push libertarianism to its limits, you end up chatting meaningless twaddle much like this guy does with the "true self". |
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If I have one piece of political advice it is never go to a Libertarian barbecue. The food will be terrible if there is any, and the people will be creepy, the kind of people who are driven by a single issue and seem sort of half dead until you mention their button issue then they go so, so mental. I speak from experience here. Can you imagine the horror of a Stef Molyneux barbecue? Thinnest paper plates, cheapest hot dogs, generic soda, all the guests are twitchy alienated socially impotent young men who live in basement apartments with garbage bag curtains. Jesus. |
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haha! |
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fleetmeng u the greatest |
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Was listen2metalk there? |
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