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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 12:00 [#02455221]
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Hi again everyone. Long time no see.
I took MDMA in pill form Friday night and I still feel fuzzy headed, mildly nauseous, things seem slightly brighter, I get mild paranoia. On Saturday my legs were at times very tense, other times spasmodic.
I took 10mg valium Saturday and same dose an hour ago. It's worn off now.
I feel like I will have to take a week out just to recover, as I have never taken it before and I read on Erowid.com that it can last 7 days.
Thing is, I have uni work to do, house hunting, paid work e.t.c
Any tips on reducing the after-effects of MDMA pills?
Thanks, hope you're all well.
T
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2013-04-29 12:11 [#02455222]
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protip: don't use drugs
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 12:12 [#02455223]
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Good advice for next time I think. 10 points.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-29 12:13 [#02455224]
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I also recently had a week long crash. I don't think there's a sure-fire way of beating it, but I've heard taking 5-htp can help.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-29 12:14 [#02455225]
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The week long crash has made me realise that molly isn't really worth it for me. Will just stick to ridiculously expensive lucy instead. She a high class gal.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 12:15 [#02455226]
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I was told that pills are 'dirty' as one never knows what is actually in them, but I read others experiences that pure MDMA has similarly long lasting after effects anyway.
It was horrible when it first hit on the night, as it was so different to alcohol. No gradual effect, just BAM! Loss of control and feeling something was inside me that I couldn't get rid of. Couldn't just throw it up because I wasn't feeling sick, even if I tried to force myself.
So yeah, no drugs for me in future I think.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 12:20 [#02455228]
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lol at the molly/lucy thing. :P
Yeah, I read 5-htp was good on Erowid. Might try to find some. And you can get it from Holland and Barrett. YAY! But it's thirty quid a bottle. Boooo...
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-29 13:49 [#02455231]
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get it on ebays
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 14:02 [#02455232]
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never touch the stuff. ask for it and you're more likely to get a meth pill that fell out of a skinhead's ass. in the US, anyways. try blotter, that way at worst you'll get b-fly or ripped off.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 16:03 [#02455249]
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Thanks, I will go that way in future.
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2013-04-29 16:32 [#02455251]
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more molly helps...
hahaha if you think you might not get an honest deal steer clear of blotters, ive never tried it but have heard that bromodargonfly or what ever can be sending you on an over 30hour long dark out trip, appantly it was the choice drogen of finnish death metalers for a while....
on a serious note, man up, eat good make some exercise and next time buy mdma crystal and take jus a wee bitty then and hour later a wee bitty more then and keep dabbingm you can build yourself upto a nice buzz, but it way more fun to dunk and big ole chunk in the moothy of your lambrini and go fuckin nutz.
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spammer
from CITY OF LONDON (Jamaica) on 2013-04-29 16:36 [#02455252]
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dunno, real MDMA can be pretty lovely so i wouldn't write it off completely.
you basically just used up a couple days worth of happy chemicals in a few hours and now it's time to pay the piper. no such thing as a free lunch and all that.
eat some chocolate ice cream or go lay around in the sun for a while, whatever normally gets you out of a funk.
also @epic how could you suggest doing blotters as a substitute? the effects aren't even close to the same and many people would freak out tripping at a party. very irresponsible advice imo.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 16:53 [#02455254]
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MDMA is bad news in the long run; people stop being able to remember telephone numbers, develop bipolar disorder, go transgender after fucking a raver in a parking lot, etc.
making matters worse is it's often just slang for "shit that makes it fun to dance to music and have unprotected sex" and half the people that buy it don't really give a shit if it's actually MDMA. they simply want to get wasted, mang, who cares what's in the pill.
acid isn't very popular as an idiot club drug, and not subject to these issues.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 16:55 [#02455255]
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also try acid if you're not a fan of MDMA's serotonin hangover.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 17:14 [#02455258]
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p.s. if you simply want to get wasted, dance to music, have regrettable sex, etc. there's this thing called "beer"
the hangover only lasts a day, too. except in case of pregnancy
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2013-04-29 17:41 [#02455260]
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Drink loads of water, maybe add some vitamins (a lot of D) and fruit.
Stay away from caffeine (for at least a week).
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 17:54 [#02455264]
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And for beer: Drink loads of water, maybe add some vitamins (B12, ice cream is a good source). Coffee recommended.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 18:13 [#02455267]
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or eggs. coffee and eggs.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2013-04-29 19:01 [#02455274]
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yeah, 5htp is great to reducing the post-roll downs.
also, sounds like you took too much for your first time - you can come up way too hard on that stuff, especially in pill form because it hits you all at once.
i far prefer to get powders which you can slowly dose yourself up on as the night goes.
also i've been getting mda recently (sassafras) which is a lot less rough on your system.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2013-04-29 19:05 [#02455275]
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best advice: stay away from this messageboard
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 19:06 [#02455276]
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if you want a good first run on acid, take at least five hits at once. you don't want to underdo it and ruin the night.
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spammer
from CITY OF LONDON (Jamaica) on 2013-04-29 19:25 [#02455280]
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buy the ticket take the ride
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freqy
on 2013-04-29 19:43 [#02455282]
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nightnurse. didn’t that have morphine in it or something fluffy ,at one time?
either that or bonjella. when i wanted a treat.
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freqy
on 2013-04-29 19:45 [#02455283]
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hey tracterns everyone said you got banned. now your here ,
hello from freqy : )
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khrimson
from the fridge on 2013-04-29 20:04 [#02455286]
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acetyl-l-carnitine
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 20:21 [#02455289]
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drink a lot of water from bottles made of BPA, grow ovaries, then squeeze them. best high ever.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 22:03 [#02455301]
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Epic, you're a silly billy.
Everyone else, thanks for the advice. I am gonna stay away from pills in future. If I had got completely fucked in the worst way it would have been my fault, as you never know what you're getting and I knew that at the time. As someone said above, MDMA crystal is probably best if taking MDMA, from what I've heard.
It might well be a good idea to avoid all drugs in future though, I dunno.
Cheers all.
T
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 22:04 [#02455304]
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lol, why would i be banned freqy?
it's nice everyone talked about me. <3
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-29 22:06 [#02455305]
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not necessarily, now you can get ripped off with 25i
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-29 22:10 [#02455306]
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that might not actually be the best advice?
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 22:22 [#02455307]
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I don't think I will ever try acid. A friend said she felt weird for a month after taking it once and never will again. Doesn't sound fun.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-29 22:29 [#02455308]
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lsd. not even once.
seriously though, it's not for some people. but if it's for you, then, well, then you're me
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 22:30 [#02455309]
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What kinda experience did you have on it?
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freqy
on 2013-04-29 22:41 [#02455311]
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that's what i didn’t understand . why were you banned?
That little boy on a tractor with little ducks waddling behind.
People said you became a troll or something?
btw 'LCD' is great in a safe controlled environment relative to CTR...ehem.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 22:50 [#02455313]
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if you tried weed and liked it at least a little, you'll probably be ok with a low dose of 'LCD' in a safe environment. at that point, you can decide if you want to go further next weekend.
if you tried weed and get massive paranoia, if you go catatonic, if you feel excessively moody in the days after, then, well, don't bother.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 22:52 [#02455314]
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i don't really enjoy weed. just makes me sleepy.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 22:53 [#02455316]
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also, i think i might have gotten ripped off and gotten b-fly once, because the next day i woke up to find i'd carved a cross into my arm, and my buddies say they were barely able to stop me from leaving the house with the intent of burning down a church. but, hey, better than salvia.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 22:54 [#02455317]
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quite an imagination there, fella.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 22:56 [#02455319]
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i don't think LCD is for you. get a projector.
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listen2meTalk
on 2013-04-29 22:58 [#02455320]
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1) ginger lung nailed it: if you went into a roll healthy you are going to come out in better condition, stay away from pills ALWAYS and look for the crystals/powder (much more likely to be pure shit, easier to step up dosage.)
2) EpicMegaTrax isn't known for being clever so I don't think he is trolling, and his advice is pure shit. LSD and MDMA are extremely different experiences and if you are looking for an MDMA-like experience LSD is certainly not the right chemical for you.
3) Your pill was most likely laced with other weird shit like 2c-i, meth, heroin and whatever else is easier to get and distribute than MDMA.
4) Lots of rest and referring to #1, go get some exercise. Green tea and mangos! Take better care of yourself and you'll be fine.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 23:02 [#02455322]
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dubturbo
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freqy
on 2013-04-29 23:05 [#02455323]
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listen to you talk : )
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-29 23:06 [#02455324]
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i made a track for him. it will be on my next album, and it called "hey you guys"
who has seen "the goonies"
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2013-04-29 23:06 [#02455325]
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I will listen you talk, listen2meTalk. You type sense!
Advice followed. Next time MDMA pure. And green tea has really helped a lot. I've ordered some HTP-5 from ebay.
Thanks, over and out!
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freqy
on 2013-04-29 23:09 [#02455327]
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have i seen the goonies ? are you kidding? that movie is awesome.
htp-5 , what happens when you take it?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2013-04-30 01:32 [#02455366]
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5htp stimulates serotonin production, basically makes it so your brain is able to produce more than normal so you're not completely drained after a good roll.
it's also used to help with sleep. but don't take it regularly, and not immediately before rolling, only once you're a good few hours into it - don't wanna get serotonin stormed.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-30 02:00 [#02455371]
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actually, as i've discovered, if you take aniracetam before dropping your lsd, it becomes very similar indeed to rolling on mandy
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2013-04-30 02:02 [#02455372]
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side note, i've experienced 5-htp before bed = much more likely to have very vivid, lucid dreams
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freqy
on 2013-04-30 02:05 [#02455373]
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cheers Mr. Hedsphurkker. : P
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speedball
on 2013-04-30 03:53 [#02455383]
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you also want tryptophan. 5htp is an intermediary, while tryptophan is a legit precursor to seratonin.
pumpkin seeds and turkey are best friends with 5htp.
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