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Listen to the first sample there... Written by a "Emily Howell" a software that writes original music. Amazing and scary |
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but can it post its music to messageboards and talk about pooping |
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give it 6 months |
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oh, nonsense. a human still wrote that computer program: “All the computer is is just an extension of me,” Cope says. “They’re nothing but wonderfully organized shovels. I wouldn’t give credit to the shovel for digging the hole. Would you?” |
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LOL |
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i took this guy's A.I. and Music class in college! he's fucking awesome, prolly the coolest teacher I had there. i even wrote a generative music program of my own in LISP, i wish i still had it saved somewhere. i think i was one of the only people who really got that class. |
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The Emmy stuff is boring imo, composers have been using algorithms for a long long time, he just used a computer to give himself more freedom. I really hope this new software he has developed doesn't go public because although composition (the old way with notation) is becoming increasingly rarified, the score sets composers apart from other music makers. It would be a disaster for those who trained as composers if everyone could now produce a score indirectly through this software. |
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well he's been developing the software for the last 10+ years, if not longer, so if it were going to "go public" it would have done so by now i think. |
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absolute bullshit elitism. he should open source that shit right fucking now, share his code with any programmer or musician or anyone else who wants it. and fuck "rarified", the more people who can create beautiful or interesting music, so the better. "emmy" was nearly fully automated but "emily howell" appears to rely more on the "composer" for musical choices. do you think the whole idea is a devaluation of human creativity? to me it just seems like a new(ish) avenue. i've his heard a few emmy compositions and was decidedly unmoved. the couple of emily watson clips linked sound a bit bloody dry too. but whatever, i'm hardly an expert |
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that was to torture garden if it wasn't obvious, javascript reply function works randomly or not at all on phone |
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and substitute howell for watson second time. fucks sake, i really shouldn't post at all |
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i am with you, belb. the mp3s on the page sounded pleasant, but unmemorable. then again, that's how most classical sounds to me there are two different issues in this: 1) computer-aided composition, with its potential to make people lazy and stupid just as synth presets do 2) computer composition, where the computer actually writes the piece without a human. 1) is definitely a legitimate concern. if you could bang out a score by clicking "yes" and "no" for a half hour, why bother to learn to write it for real? just like presets, it'll sound OK, but corral your creativity inside the program's limits while making you progressively lazier. 2) is bunk. feed it bach, get bach. feed it beethoven, get beethoven. feed it both, get both. it can't generate an original composer, just re-assemble pieces of other composers.... and to do that, it needs a human there feeding it composers + guiding its aesthetics. you gotta draw a line between composition and generation.... i'd call generation the derivative of composition (in the calc sense) |
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Both played at the same time is about tolerable. |
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title of the article is "The Cyborg Composer" i'd argue Cope is the Cyborg, not his program.... |
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Fake |
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It sounds quite nice. |
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Anyone can begin to compose with a pen, paper and some imagination. This new technology would bypass that learning and replace it with a mediatory process - clicking yes or no on a screen - 'PROGRESS'. Some working methods should not be forgotten imo, working with sound in your head and writing straight to paper is a unique working process which is worth saving. |
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