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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-04 12:37 [#02445293]
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It's an unfortunate side effect of benefits scamming that you undermine the credibility of people who are legitimately entitled to them. One oft-quoted figure is that there are 1 in 4 people with some sort of disability benefit in Wales. That is considerably more than England and even Scotland. So, in lieu of Wales having some disaster/cultural difference to attribute for this massive increase, the logical conclusion is that we have more people claiming falsely. The high number of people busted in ludicrous ways (people with supposed back injuries that prevent manual labour competing in amateur weightlifting competitions, for example) would suggest that this is the case.
Of course, we have huge numbers of people who are, as a result, subjected to the unpleasantness of having to prove they are fit for work when they are genuinely unwell. When this happens, it is inevitable and tragic that some assessors will be over-zealous or simply make mistakes and wrongly classify people as undeserving of their benefits.
I remember when my wife got sick, her disability benefit was a very welcome safety net as we were suddenly on one income. I'd hate to see the trauma she'd have been put through to prove she was unable to work, had we been in that position today rather than 4 years ago.
I also don't like the way the left vilify anyone critical of benefit frauds as somehow anti-benefit and of the opinion that all people receiving benefits are frauds. I hate benefit frauds so much precisely because they fuck it up for those who are deserving.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2012-12-04 14:17 [#02445295]
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source(s) for 1 in 4 claim plz ceri, might be oft-quoted but that doesn't mean it's accurate.
Re: fraud, DWP's own figures for 2011/12 of benefits overpayment through fraud and error stands at 2%. 0.8% is customer error, 0.5%
is DWP error. 0.7% of claims are apparently fraudulent.
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