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Is it slowly happening or not. I have been buying a few. Aphex Re-Issues. What do you reckon. What are you habits musically have you gone fully digital? I am interested :) |
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vinyl will return! |
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vinyl, tapes & cd's are here to stay |
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vinyl and tapes have staying power, cd's and other physical digital media do not. |
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same. |
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vinyl is definitely not dying at the moment, dunno what the future holds but i'm glad it's still kickin'. |
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Vinyl will most certainly not die out any time soon, it is here to stay. In other news, I think there is a world market for maybe five computers, and there is no good reason anyone would want to own a computer in their home. |
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vinyls from analogue systems is very nice. |
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So greatly exaggerated. Yeh :) The prediction then. I like it. It is just the way the sleeves get knocked and damaging during normal use annoys me. I have started using protective sleeves, but they still get damaged. Any top tips? |
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one day bedroom producers will cut vinyl records in their bedroom studios just like nowadays they spit out buckets of mp3s |
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I walk around Cairo streets with custom made headphones that have a vertical turntable on the R side. Battery pack in backpack. Like radio headphones, but turntable. People look at me like WTF?, but then I Melbourne Shuffle my way to victory-lane-tronica. |
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Top Tip: If you have any really valuable/much loved record, transfer them to a generic blank white cardboard sleeve, with a paper liner. You can then store your sleeves in airtight bags, away from harmful UV rays and protected from knocks by putting them in a spare vinyl flightcase. The other advantage, if you DJ is that you can write the title, BPM, track names, RPM, notes about what mixes well into it, notes about where there are lockgrooves, etc. on the cardboard itself in marker pent. It is 100 times easier to read fat black marker on bright white card in a dimly lit nightclub, than it is to squint at the (often very minimal) info on the record centre sticker. If you have even a modicum of artistic talent, drawing your own sleeve art on them makes flicking through your box of records even easier than using the original sleeves in many cases as they really leap out at you and you never forget what that design that you drew was for. Even now, without getting up, I know that the vinyl with a blue hand drawn on it is a house/dance mix tool, even though I've not used it, or even looked at it for over 5 years. This re-sleeving technique is also useful for boxed sets, those stupid see through slip cases picture disks come in and any other non-standard packaging that "wacky" record labels come up with. EG Analord binder. My Analord binder has been opened all of three times and sits in its original packaging on my shelf. The vinyl has all been transferred to separate white card sleeves with paper liners. When we're 75 and forced to sell all our worldly possessions to pay for our nursing care, my binder will be the most sought-after of all. :D |
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my dog actually walks upon my analord binder pretty often as its lying on the floor, i play it quite often & dont give a damn :-P good records needs to be played.. its a techno record, not fucking mona lisa |
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Just because of us, vinyl lovers, it wont go away any time soon. |
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reminds me of PCs, really. people announcing the death of the PC and saying we'll all be using iPads in the future. this is overstating things PCs won't ever sell again like they did in the 90s, vinyl won't ever sell like it did in the 60s. neither will disappear |
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When did you buy your last Walkman? |
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couple months ago, in a thrift shop. general electric brand, which i'd not seen before. 3-band graphic equalizer on the lid. |
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I don't believe you. You may have bought some trousers from your hypothetical shrift shop. |
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it's now more than theoretical. in my universe, quinn has a masters in physics |
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I can't see a sales receipt anywhere? Did you post the right picture? |
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your last 4 or so sporadic releases were all on vinyl? hard to argue against that :P hope yr well btw =) |
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dat oscilloscope sec c |
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Thanks for the advice. ceri! I don't play out with vinyls, so you careful approach seems a bit extreme to me. Plus you don't get to enjoy the artwork that way. Sort of defeats the point slightly for me. thanks anyway. |
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FOR ALL YOU TAPE LOVERS: You may use this tape idea for your ultra lush IDM punk house step tracks, etc. This shit is the shit, and is the ultra shit of the tape shits. What you need to do after buying your 2nd hand cassette player, is modify the motors by potentiometer and possibly upping input juice. By making your tape player record at several times the normal speed, you can turn your shit deck into a hi-res analog monster, still capable of being saturated and outputting lush lazerz. When playing back tracks, you can twiddle the potentiometer to have realtime speed control. The main benefit of this is to record your tracks hi-res onto tape, then mix the output 50% or so with the original, to add the oomph to your tinny digital crap. Even lo-fi shit tape sounds amazing. |
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how do u overcome pwm stepper motor logic hax ? |
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They sell these as grab bags at Radioshat. |
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this thread now has its own |
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that's not a Walkman® That's a generic portable cassette player, made by General Electric. |
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hey oscillisk get over urself u turd brain pendant |
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At a birthday party for someone at the office, the person declared the "1/12 of people born this month" to be the best evar. I replied, "Well, TECHNICALLY, more people are born during the summer. Haven't you ever heard where the name JASON comes from? July, August, September, October, November.... People like to keep warm in those winter months, you know?" From the back of the room, someone dryly remarked: "God, there's ALWAYS one of those guys...." and he didn't mean a JASON |
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"Plus you don't get to enjoy the artwork that way." Ah, but I do... My favourite artwork is framed and hung on the wall. EG: |
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i enjoyed the united acid emirates artwork very much. aside from the cover, each side had a different ceephax sweater pattern on it. |
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cool! |
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go back to making dupe accounts on xlt and watmm, metallicadude |
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Vinyl will die. |
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what about this doomsday story of the last vinyl pressing machines dying and no repairs being possible, thus pressing crappier quality vinyl until they finally break down? |
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funny boys |
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to me nothing could replace the warm fuzzy sound of a vinyl record. |
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how many types of vinyl are there , cheap , really expensive? If you press a record do you have the choice of the material? maybe someone one day invent a new type of vinyls that can contain more analog information with less noise or whatnot? surly there is hope for vinyalz. |
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death of vinyl.. yep new vinyl will die, when all the machinery breaks or plastic biprodcuts are legislated against etc. it continues because so many people make music in their bedrooms and now have instant access to more likeminds than ever. someone will always be prepared to press up their own or their friends work if they like it. you can make 500, sell that many if you are lucky, still not really make a profit and still be chuffed. or just sell 50, have it reviewed somewhere and all over record shops that week, stomach the loss and still be chuffed. with 7 billion people on earth, you can make 500 copies of someone burping and sell them. or 500 copies of lush music thats actually totally overlooked. selling more than that tho is what would save vinyl. very rare that tho, have you seen how many records on boomkat are 133 copies for the world or ltd edition 500 etc. it will go on to satisfy people's vanity/self interest as long as their are new kids in the world growing up into adults. but i doubt it will expand because technics dont even make the turntables any more. it's just a lovely throwback of the old days, has it's own particular high quality, doesnt involve typing or looking at radioactive screens. you can talk and smoke and dance in the dark etc. so old vinyl will continue for old codger mentality people or their grandchildren. people can download all new music for free, decide 6 months later to get it on vinyl cheaper than new via discogs possibly an unsold one from the person that made the record in the first place and then... ha ha ha ah ah |
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nb this applies to cd's just as much if not moreso. dont mean to single out vinyl. buying mp3's that require so much less effort/investment to market is less satisfying in many ways (moreso for the artist than the purchaser) but also so convenient in many ways |
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if vinyl dies, where will dj's buy their timecode discs ? in all seriousness, i'm waiting for some genius to figure out how to cut vinyl with a laser, and make it economical to just burn 'em like CDs (will CDs die? that's a harder one to call; they're less charismatic (which is why they aren't selling now)). dodge the issue of having to microlathe some master disc and sell "blank" vinyl instead of unmelted donuts to be used in a press. sell the machine for $5k and have a bunch of dudes start home businesses doing small lots. it'd be like a t-shirt press. no idea if the physics and chemistry allow that particular approach, but i figure there's SOME way to use modern tech to vastly cheapen vinyl production. |
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CDs provide an analogy: when you buy a mass-market CD, it's silver. they press it like records; they make a master first (it's called "going gold" in the tech industry). but if you burn a CD, it's a one-off.... if you could do vinyl like that, it'd turn the economics on its head. after from the burner, you pay per disc. you don't have to gamble, scrape together cash, get 500 pressed. just hook up with some guy doing it as a home biz and do it made-to-order, burn the record after the order is placed |
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alive and good ideas but still a labor or love or sharing or self-obsession rather than viable business commercial industry (for the artist/label mostly, maybe the one manufacturer of these might do well out of it). i.e. it has been mostly dead since 2000 but will not totally die until civilization collapses or theres no electricity etc. i.e. you can still get a wax cylinder produced if you want, there is a company in uk, people still dick about with wire recorders, elcassette etc. 100 odd years after invention... every format is a unique shade. |
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oh, it would certainly collapse the industry even further, at least at first. the "direct to vinyl" guys would drive the mass-scale vinyl guys out of business mostly, if not entirely. anyone being able to have an mp3 turned to vinyl would decrease the feeling of novelty. yet, unlike a wax cylinder, vinyl would still be a well-supported technology... and i wager wax cylinders don't sound very good. vinyl does. |
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i'd cite vistaprint as an analogy cheap, small lots of business cards. drove some other printers out of business via focusing on making small runs cheap. |
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http://www.francetv.fr/culturebox/presser-ses-vinyles-a-la- maison-cest-possible-87987 It's in French but you get the idea and you can google further. 3.200€ for the starter kit. |
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vestax made something similar, among others. cutting/mastering is an art learned over years tho (a lot of experimental plates to cut) and crucially, the blanks to cut these on cost 20-50 quid each. you'll probably wanna buy some genelic or akg monitors, preamps, amps, all that drubble, it will always be a great hobby for the wealthy audiophile rather than the unemployed student, who are far more in number and probably more in need of good tunes? |
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it's still alive in my house anyway. |
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