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Portnoy
on 2012-08-08 07:55 [#02439036]
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A short "live" recording from the Roland MC-505 super toy.
Ambientdnb
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staz
on 2012-08-08 07:58 [#02439037]
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doesnt sound like dnb but it has a pleasant cozyness to it
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staz
on 2012-08-08 08:00 [#02439038]
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final conclusion: good job! i like it.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-08 08:10 [#02439039]
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Thank you very much, master staz. I appreciate your comments. I'm usually wrapped in a blanket with the 505 sat on my lap. Cozy indeed!
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-08-08 09:34 [#02439040]
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fav+
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-08 14:45 [#02439051]
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cheers ob1
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-08-08 14:49 [#02439052]
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Nice- the MC-505 sounds brings back memories. My 1st drum machine sequencer ting. Good times. Fun machine.
Chair+MC-505+Lap=Good Times.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-09 08:58 [#02439120]
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I love it so much. Sometimes we just lie there, holding one another. It's a little inappropriate really. My girlfriend says she feels neglected and that I love the machine more than I do her.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-09 09:56 [#02439125]
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Great work, I would never have guessed it was all done on an MC-505. There is something about just sitting in a chair with an all-in-one groovebox on your lap, isn't there? My weapon of choice is an ESX-1.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-09 10:17 [#02439128]
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Yep, recorded straight into a Tascam Dr 40. Normalised in Wavosaur and exported as MP3.
I tried to layer it a bit in Acid Pro with some other loops (like filtered drum sounds at the break down to create a build up for the second drop) but it didn't sound as good, so I left it as is. The high frequencies became less clear after importing it into acid.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-09 10:22 [#02439129]
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The ESX-1 looks like a lot of fun. Our friend Larn recently purchased one for himself.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-09 11:53 [#02439137]
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They reissued it recently with SD card (original ones used some god-awful type of memory card that was a swine to track down). Great machines, get Larn check out the (unofficial) sample manager software for loading a memory card with samples, much easier than the built-in way. I will repost if I can find/remember the name of the software.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-08-09 12:15 [#02439139]
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Wha? An updated version has SD card slot and can load samples?!
I just remembered, here's an MC-505 track of mine from 2001:
Vgs
That track is pretty straight forward, but I had a lot of tracks that really pushed the limits of the machine (it would crash, etc.), which I wish I recorded. I have some earlier tracks recorded to cassette, though.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-09 13:20 [#02439142]
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I checked out the ESX-1 SD. Unfortunately Larn got himself the old one with Smart Media.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-09 13:21 [#02439143]
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The 505 is also burdened with a Smart Media slot.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-09 13:22 [#02439144]
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Awesome track man. Love it. Very uplifting.
Haven't really pushed the machine that much yet. This song is quite simple really.
Did your screen eventually die on you?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-09 18:13 [#02439154]
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My own one is smart media. Fortunately, I tracked down 2 of the largest cards it'd take for a good price (still way more than equivalent SD card) just after I got it. Then 6 months later, I found another 2 in the drawer (4 in total) and I had no idea where these other ones came from, but basically, I have more than enough, even if I lose/break a couple. Particularly as you can use the software to back up the files with all your patterns and samples onto a PC, so you essentially have limitless storage.
I considered buying an SD one, just to have a spare machine as I'd be gutted if mine broke and they were discontinued. Also, I could keep one in the lounge and another in my studio. I mainly use it standalone in the lounge, but in the studio it's good for use as a hands-on X0X-style drum programmer for Reason. Set it up so you are controlling Kong with it and it's brilliant for 'Live' tracks where you are adding/muting parts in real time.
jnasato: We're talking about an SD card ESX-1. SD-enabled MC-505 you could load samples into would be sweet!
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-08-09 18:17 [#02439156]
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Thanks, yo. My screen was perfect luckily.
I pushed the machine by having really long loops, so I could vary the drums more. I also saved my drum and synth presets. All tracks maxed. At the time, I remember wishing there were more tracks, aaand then later I realized it needed a better EQ. I used to use it with an SP-202 and sonic maximizer. I still have a book with notes on when the parts turn on and off and tweaks written on napkin in colored pencil, which have since faded. Haha, I always thought I'd release those tracks on rephlex or something, cuz I was really into them at the time. I'm looking forward to listening to my old tracks again, cuz I haven't heard most in over 10 years. Nostalgia goldmine!
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-10 02:06 [#02439179]
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Ideally, syncing the 505 and the ESX-1 together could create fun results. Synth and sampler love. I'm recording some fun stuff on the Tascam, thinking it would be cool to mangled and sequence it in something like the ESX-1
jnsato: The built in EQ is indeed not very amazing. But not shit either. As with all the effects. I like the delay, does most I can think of to do with delay. Sometimes when my patterns are very long and I start using the step sequencer, things get a little wonky.
The patch editor also requires a calm conidition of the machine otherwise values start jumping around. I find ways around this. And for some reason, I find it is better to use tones 3 and 4, rather 1 or 2. Haven't gone as far as combinig 3 or more. Yet.
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Portnoy
on 2012-08-10 03:17 [#02439180]
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*when using tones 1 or 2 and I move the sliders and nobs to change values....the slightest touch would make it go to maximum value or something. Sometimes it just gets stuck on a value. Lukily it only happens on occassion. Kind of annoying when you haven't saved in a while. When modifying tones 3 or 4 however, this doesn't seem to happen. I think it is a combination of events that lead to this instance. Not quite sure what it is. She's a fickle bitch for sure but I love her.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-11 21:40 [#02439260]
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Found the ESX organiser I was talking about. Well worth using.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-08-11 22:33 [#02439266]
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Man, i've hardly had time to work on my Esx, just don't have the space or time :(((
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-08-11 22:41 [#02439268]
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...although, I have worked out something really nice on the esx-1, there is a way to jam with some looped samples making it sound glitchy, then automatically snap the values back to 0 or false on every 2nd or 4th bar, so you don't loose your original settings
it's a nice machine, i just feel that it's better to make some 8bar loops on a computer, then load them up and jam it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-12 21:03 [#02439311]
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I must respectfully disagree, for me it's so much more than just a way of playing back pre-made loops (although it can do that too). :)
Do you find using it to layer lots of loops that way that you run out of sample memory? One of reason I kept loops to a minimum when I was learning it was to allow for lots more (short) samples.
I mainly tend to only use a handful of loops (often drum breaks loaded into the slice, for early DnB styles). Most sounds on mine are single hits (for the drums), simple single instrument notes and raw waveforms (for the pitched parts) and samples of chord hits (played as single hits on the drum parts).
Have you got any videos or mp3s of tracks done on your ESX?
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-08-13 01:02 [#02439323]
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I've honestly not used it that much so I'm sure I can do a lot more when I get the time to explore it.so far I've only used it to play my own loops taken from tracks I made a while ago, so I sort of play one loop after another and then try to mangle them, I haven't recorded anything yet and I've not had issues with memory , but I can see how that would become a problem. I was looking for adapter that could be used with an SD card, I think there is a patent on this but the company has not produced it yet.
Maybe you can help me with a few tips For sequencing and slicing etc,
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-08-13 19:56 [#02439345]
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If you're mangling existing loops that way, I would suggest
looking at this part of this video
From the part I linked to up till 5.26 should be what you're
after.
It shows two good tricks; One is to switch samples on a part (so make 2 or 3 variations on a loop on your PC, load as samples next to each other on the ESX and then use the jog wheel to cut between them during playback.
The second I only learnt recently (from that video), which allows you to change the slice being played back mid playback. By resampling this, you can overcome the ESX's lack of slice selection in sliced sample playback. Essentially, it becomes a poor man's Recycle/Dr.Rex and lets
you cut up breakbeats etc. on the ESX, rather than having to
do it on the PC.
Another good trick I found for mangling, is to choose 3 fx units that work well together, but audibly alter the sound on their own. Then send sounds to be mangled to FX-1. In the
fx section, manually tap the button controlling the FX chain
in time to the beat. You will change the FX routing in real
time, whilst it's playing back.
RE: Memory, I think rather than an adaptor, it'd be cheaper
(and possibly more reliable) to get a couple of the old smart media cards that it takes and just use them as a way to get .esx files off the PC.
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