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need to get round to properly finishing my tracks, but here's something |
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It's just Windowlicker done really baddly. |
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DOESNT FEATURE BEATS >> TL;DL |
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Yes it fucking does. |
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The synths are very stock/preset sounding, it's like a Depeche Mode inspired Reason Demo or somethin. Not your best effort |
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Why is sounding stock/preset a bad thing? |
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because they are not excellent. this board demands excellence |
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I prefer "New England" style. |
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because with electronic music you have a limitless pallet of sounds, so if you play the same thing people have heard before, they'll get bored and stop listening. if you can get it sounding fresh with like lots of spring reverb and saturation or something, that's one thing, but i gotta agree, those are some very tired drum sounds. |
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raz0rblade-- this is the best stuff of yours i have heard. way to blend that latin beat with the electro downtempo. these chumps don't understand that sound texture ain't everything. its quite good. i am a rhythmophile and texturephile, but the textures are pleasant (especially with the tremolo/mid-LFO thing). it needs a climax or a break maybe. the beat though-- the beat was novel. thanks for that. |
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Limitless? Sounds nice but it's improbable. |
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i have a pile of drum samples. they are my friends. people tell me i have to keep it fresh but my drum samples want to come out to play |
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okay, so tell me what kind of sound you can't make with a computer? when you can manipulate the individual waveforms down to a 16 bit sample-accurate resolution, literally any sound is possible. |
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with computers it is all 011101011 and never 0.314159. how do i get a moog tone out of a 555? |
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I don't understand the "have to keep it fresh" thing. What about classical instruments? What about the timeless amen break. Timeless it is. |
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glad you enjoyed :) and thanks for the suggestions also thank you to everyone else for listening and giving your perspective :) |
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keep it ftd wit da ab |
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Haha! Are you being serious? And why just mention computers? Do you understand what 'limitless' means? |
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it's called a sample - i'm not talking synthesis. i never said you can't use the same old sounds, just do something innovative them them. use the amen break all you want, just make it sound good. like haft said, the sounds in your track sound like presets, there's no a lot of character to them, and i didn't like the sound of it much. sure, there's limits with sample resolution, but nothing the human ear can perceive. play a moog modular, then record it in 24 bit with a decent DAC and play it back on the same speakers, i highly doubt you're going to notice a difference in a blind a/b test. all im trying to get at is that with computers, complex synthesis (stuff like the new s-layer), and sampling, you have an insurmountably ginormous breadth of sounds available to you, and the best stuff is that which explores this landscape. okay, it may not be completely infinite, but those limits are so far outside of how far we've explored up to now, we're a few centuries away from reaching them, imo. |
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so you can make any sound with a computer, BUT it has to come from outside the computer in certain cases. p.s. i like my physical analog mixing desk a lot more than i do the computer's imaginary mixing desk. computer doesn't quite sound as good.... but hey, they are LIMITLESS |
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I think its great : ) also I'm really liking frantic pixel and rapid flapjacks. zupp is cool too. lol :) |
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p.s. is about how i feel. the computer is awesome for music, use it loads. but it's just another bit of kit to me. it is in parallel to nice analog synths, not above or below. |
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Nice jam. Bigger Bricks still the XLT single of the month though ;p |
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if you read my initial post, i never relegated it just to computers, and you completely missed the point of what i was saying originally entirely. smh... |
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:D |
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i guess it would have been clearer to say "analog vs. digital" but we were already using other words so i just kept using them. but fine, since you are all SMH i am going to be all PITA digital devices are good mimics. they can mimic whatever you feed them, but you have to feed them the sound first. therefore, in this case, i hold they're not actually making the sound, just reproducing it. if you sit there for five years with a pencil editing the waveform to enter in a moog noise, this is just a very inefficient form of loading the data into the digital device so it can reproduce (not generate) it digital devices can also generate sound that's entirely their own... and of course, you can use analog tape to reproduce anything generated with digital. but few people think of analog tape as "making" the sound, just playing back what's been fed into it. i suppose the line starts to get fuzzy if you consider the ol' mellotron, just as it gets fuzzy when you use a digital sampler. meanwhile, i don't think anything is limitless, except perhaps my ability to write long argumentative posts in my boxer shorts |
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aaaaaand you've once again missed the entire point on my post entirely. this is not an "analog vs. digital" argument. at all. it never was. i said "electronic music." you can make lots of sounds with electronic music. that's all. smh... |
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doing ableton timestretch analog style with tape and a razor blade brb |
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what, are you gonna stretch the tape with the razor blade. i'd just play the tape slower if i were you... |
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He said timestretch not tape stretch you sniveling little fanny. |
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...said the kettle to the pot. |
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"...said the kettle to the pot." You're the one moaning about not being understood when you don't even read and understand another post you floppy wet sock. |
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sorry for not clarifying - you're the sniveling little fanny. |
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AAaahh! You are getting better at this communication thing, well done! |
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my work here is pun |
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A bit too loud and not enough dynamics (look at the soundcloud waveform!). The bass drowns out some of the nice intricate bits with the drums and the synth with the varying LFO-rate. It'd be good to hear that detail with the other stuff being muted (or at least the volume dropped) in some places. The loud, overbearing wall of sound when it did all come in at once for a climax would be all the more effective that way, too. |
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Thanks for thee feedback :D |
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I wish people would stop telling other people how they should make their tracks. It's ridiculous. You either like it or you don't. Of course you are free to say which bits you didn't like so much. But it should stop there. You may think "Oh i'm not telling him how to make music i'm just offering advice". Well fuck off as it doesn't seem so! |
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I don't mind advice on how to do levels differently and stuff (if that's desirable), but I have to say that I am mostly in agreement with you. I appreciate different perspectives, but frankly I do make music that I like, and that's the end of it really. Musical preference is entirely subjective. |
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I am prone to internalising other people's dislike of my music, which is a bit of an issue for me. I depend too much on other's acceptance of me for my own self-acceptance methinks. |
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hedphukkr said: dont use crappy preset drums - do something fun with all that computer stuff instead. xltronic said: omg computers arent even limitless you are such idiot! |
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thank you for understanding, ampi *bows* |
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you seem to think i was responding to post #02438720 when i was actually responding to post #02438724. you made a valid point, then proceeded to put your foot in your mouth claiming computers could do anything ampi max said: internet arguments, how do they work? |
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It didn't happen like that you silly crumpet. No one is saying it's wrong to use your computer the best you can. Hedfuk just mentioned it being limitless which i thought was maybe taking it a bit too far. I don't say i'm right, it's just interesting to talk about. |
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I enjoyed it. It was moody if a bit samey. It could be all preset loops in Dance eJay for all I care. |
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hedphukker is an idiot that doesn't understand how to communicate. It's all hyperbole and then he gets angry that he hasn't expressed himself. He's funny |
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He just wants thing to "sound good", bless his american y-fronts. |
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i simply enjoy arguing over this shit because it forces me to clarify my own opinions. |
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SHUT the fu k up lol |
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I stopped posting my own music for this reason. I like my stuff just fine, I'm happy with my production skills and I don't really value others' opinions of it that much. I don't expect to make any money from it and so what others think of it isn't overly important to me. It is nice when a track has affected someone enough that stranger tracks you down to tell you how much they enjoyed it and ask where they can get a physical copy, but other than that, most interactions with people regarding amateur music these days is a bit, 'meh'. Sorry if I offered advice that wasn't asked for. Looking at your post, it is clear now you were just sharing your music. |
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