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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2012-06-29 14:12 [#02436692] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | i used to be pretty chilled out, then i started getting panic attacks. now i'm not very chilled out
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2012-06-29 14:31 [#02436694] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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         |  retape
             from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2012-06-29 14:55 [#02436695] Points: 2355 Status: Lurker
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 | solution: cipralex 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2012-06-29 17:06 [#02436697] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | If with the help of a professional you still keep on having them then maybe you need a little altering. Thing is meds
 are being thrown around like M&Ms these days and many people
 shouldn't be on anything. Talk about it with your doctor.
 Maybe he'll precribe you some benzo to take if needed. I
 certainly wouldn't recommend cypralex though (which is an
 antidepressant), not if panic attacks are your only symptom.
 Maybe something like Clorazepate or Lorazepam. These can be
 used when and if needed. An antidepressant you would have to
 take every day.
 
 Anyway sorry to hear that. They're difficult to cope with.
 
 P.S: Just to mention i think meds should be avoided if
 possible and only used as a last resort. I hate all these
 pharmaceuticals as much as the next man.
 
 
 
 
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2012-06-29 18:44 [#02436701] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Followup to RussellDust: #02436697 | Show recordbag
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 | I've actually been on sertraline (zoloft) for the past couple of months, and it's done jack fucking shit. I was
 prescribed some benzos for a short while, but I didn't like
 how fuzzy they made my brain feel. The best thing I've found
 so far (chemical alterationy-wise) is phenibut. It works
 like a benzo, but actually improves my mental functioning.
 
 Still though, even with that (and an allowance of 3 units
 per alcohol a day), I still get panic attacks pretty bad.
 
 I've been reading a bit of Albert Ellis (a guide to rational
 living) recently though too and that seems to be helping.
 
 
 
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         |  Monoid
             from one source all things depend on 2012-06-30 00:57 [#02436714] Points: 11012 Status: Lurker
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 | Never had panic attacks. But i tried various SSRIs, they didn't help. I now believe no one can help you except you
 youtmrself. Reading psychological books has strangely calmed
 my mind.
 But you have to face reality sooner or later.
 
 
 
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         |  staz
             on 2012-06-30 04:28 [#02436716] Points: 9844 Status: Regular
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 | have any relatives with anxiety? lots of weed?
 both?
 
 
 
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         |  behindthebeats
             on 2012-06-30 09:56 [#02436719] Points: 353 Status: Regular
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 | Keep your mouth shut! Focus on breathing through your nose. it will cure your panic attacks over night. you have to do
 it consciously at the beginning but after a while you will
 do it automatically. check this
 
 
 
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         |  larn
             from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-06-30 14:31 [#02436725] Points: 5476 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | I had a panic attack at work (alone) and almost passed out, it caused me to halucinate walls bending and the light was
 very bright in the room. Any rational thought was bypassed
 with fear and an overwhelming feeling of lost touch with
 reality. My heart rate was rapid with heavy breathing, I
 kept thinking that I would have a heart attack and die which
 fed into my fear and created a horrible brain loop, almost
 like opperating from a lower brain function with no
 rationality. it lasted about 2 hours until i managed to call
 my friend and get him to come to my work to talk me down.
 
 My docter told me it was a panic attack which was brought on
 by lack of sleep and too much stress. I have never had one
 since then, but i can really relate to how sever these
 attacks can be.
 
 
 
 
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         |  drill rods
             from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-07-04 01:41 [#02436893] Points: 1171 Status: Regular
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 | is there anything that sets them off? 
 
 
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2012-07-04 13:12 [#02436924] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Followup to larn: #02436725 | Show recordbag
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 | Ah man, sounds rough :( 
 Glad you've not had one since :)
 
 
 
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2012-07-04 13:14 [#02436925] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Followup to drill rods: #02436893 | Show recordbag
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 | Often just the fear of getting one will trigger it. 
 
 
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         |  hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-04 18:07 [#02436948] Points: 8833 Status: Regular
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 | i used to panic a lot in college. i feel like for some people it's associated with a phase of self-discovery (altho
 i can't say if that's your case).
 
 imo finding your triggers, and resolving those issues should
 be your goal, not chemically dealing with the attacks
 themselves. i recommend talking therapy, friends, and lots
 of love. also i've had some very opening experiences with
 mda recently, if you're into that stuff, but like i said,
 chemicals aren't the direct solution.
 
 god, i sound like such a fucking hippie.
 
 
 
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         |  Steinvordhosbn
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-04 18:42 [#02436950] Points: 3185 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | "Often just the fear of getting one will trigger it."
 
 I had them for years, constantly. What really helped me
 though was getting over that fear that you're going to have
 one. What I found helpful after reading an article about it,
 was that you have to accept that you will have an attack,
 you know what they're like, you know how you're going to
 feel, and you know you'll eventually feel better again - so
 kind of accepting that it's going to happen, rather than
 waiting and monitoring how you feel (am I having a heart
 attack, can I breathe properly, am I going to soil myself
 (short answer: no) )- just give into it a bit, and it takes
 the sting out. Then over time, ideally sooner rather than
 later, the panic attacks become as troublesome as hiccups or
 wind, and eventually go altogether.
 
 I genuinely do wish you well as it is a nasty thing to go
 through.
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2012-07-04 19:30 [#02436956] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | With time you'll learn more to be wary of them coming on rather than outright fearing it... they'll make you
 miserable but they're not going to kill you. Hard to remind
 yourself of that when you're having one, but you're still in
 control of your body and there's things you can do
 physically to make it easier to deal with them or lessen the
 chances of panic conditions occurring. If you don't already,
 start deep breathing in such a way that it's your
 belly/abdomen rising instead of (or more than) your chest.
 Relearn how to breathe if you have to.
 
 And maybe this is silly but for me it helps to open up the
 freezer and stick my head in, turn the cold up as much as
 you can take. Though I guess if you're claustrophobic this
 might exacerbate your panic symptoms. And it also makes you
 hungry when you're face to face with a box of ice cream
 sandwiches for 5 minutes. But it really does focus you
 mentally, soothe you physically, makes you come down faster.
 
 
 
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         |  betamaxheadroom
             on 2012-07-05 00:48 [#02436968] Points: 1066 Status: Regular | Followup to Steinvordhosbn: #02436950
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 | what an excellent post. im 15 months now and going strong. 
 
 
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2012-07-07 17:56 [#02437118] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | Thanks for your comments heady, steiny, and ophy 
 Really appreciate it, and very nice and helpful too :)
 
 To update, by reading lots about REBT, challenging my own
 thoughts (and also accepting panic attacks if they happen --
 thanks ophy!), and more realistically interpreting events,
 has proven to help reduce my anxiety levels already quite
 significantly! Am very happy today :)
 
 
 
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         |  hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-07 19:27 [#02437119] Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to Raz0rBlade_uk: #02437118
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 | that's great to hear! manhugs all around, folks! 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2012-07-07 23:58 [#02437124] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | You're all cunts. Whiny boring cunts. Get help elsewhere! 
 
 
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         |  YosepH
             on 2012-07-08 01:18 [#02437126] Points: 179 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02437124
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 | I wish I could help you 
 
 
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         |  Monoid
             from one source all things depend on 2012-07-08 02:51 [#02437127] Points: 11012 Status: Lurker
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 | I find your advice rather strange. As a social phobic person ive been told to monitor my behaviour. So, exactly the
 oppposite to what you guys do.
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2012-07-08 21:54 [#02437156] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker | Followup to YosepH: #02437126
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 | How about helping yourself? Maybe then you could help me understand what help exactly i need from you.
 
 You're a loveable dupe you know. But beyond obvious.
 
 
 
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