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offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2012-06-29 14:12 [#02436692]
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i used to be pretty chilled out, then i started getting
panic attacks. now i'm not very chilled out


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2012-06-29 14:31 [#02436694]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2012-06-29 14:55 [#02436695]
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solution: cipralex


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-06-29 17:06 [#02436697]
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If with the help of a professional you still keep on having
them then maybe you need a little altering. Thing is meds
are being thrown around like M&Ms these days and many people
shouldn't be on anything. Talk about it with your doctor.
Maybe he'll precribe you some benzo to take if needed. I
certainly wouldn't recommend cypralex though (which is an
antidepressant), not if panic attacks are your only symptom.
Maybe something like Clorazepate or Lorazepam. These can be
used when and if needed. An antidepressant you would have to
take every day.

Anyway sorry to hear that. They're difficult to cope with.

P.S: Just to mention i think meds should be avoided if
possible and only used as a last resort. I hate all these
pharmaceuticals as much as the next man.



 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2012-06-29 18:44 [#02436701]
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I've actually been on sertraline (zoloft) for the past
couple of months, and it's done jack fucking shit. I was
prescribed some benzos for a short while, but I didn't like
how fuzzy they made my brain feel. The best thing I've found
so far (chemical alterationy-wise) is phenibut. It works
like a benzo, but actually improves my mental functioning.

Still though, even with that (and an allowance of 3 units
per alcohol a day), I still get panic attacks pretty bad.

I've been reading a bit of Albert Ellis (a guide to rational
living) recently though too and that seems to be helping.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2012-06-30 00:57 [#02436714]
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Never had panic attacks. But i tried various SSRIs, they
didn't help. I now believe no one can help you except you
youtmrself. Reading psychological books has strangely calmed
my mind.
But you have to face reality sooner or later.


 

offline staz on 2012-06-30 04:28 [#02436716]
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have any relatives with anxiety?
lots of weed?
both?


 

offline behindthebeats on 2012-06-30 09:56 [#02436719]
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Keep your mouth shut! Focus on breathing through your nose.
it will cure your panic attacks over night. you have to do
it consciously at the beginning but after a while you will
do it automatically. check this


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-06-30 14:31 [#02436725]
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I had a panic attack at work (alone) and almost passed out,
it caused me to halucinate walls bending and the light was
very bright in the room. Any rational thought was bypassed
with fear and an overwhelming feeling of lost touch with
reality. My heart rate was rapid with heavy breathing, I
kept thinking that I would have a heart attack and die which
fed into my fear and created a horrible brain loop, almost
like opperating from a lower brain function with no
rationality. it lasted about 2 hours until i managed to call
my friend and get him to come to my work to talk me down.

My docter told me it was a panic attack which was brought on
by lack of sleep and too much stress. I have never had one
since then, but i can really relate to how sever these
attacks can be.



 

offline drill rods from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-07-04 01:41 [#02436893]
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is there anything that sets them off?


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2012-07-04 13:12 [#02436924]
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Ah man, sounds rough :(

Glad you've not had one since :)


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2012-07-04 13:14 [#02436925]
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Often just the fear of getting one will trigger it.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-04 18:07 [#02436948]
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i used to panic a lot in college. i feel like for some
people it's associated with a phase of self-discovery (altho
i can't say if that's your case).

imo finding your triggers, and resolving those issues should
be your goal, not chemically dealing with the attacks
themselves. i recommend talking therapy, friends, and lots
of love. also i've had some very opening experiences with
mda recently, if you're into that stuff, but like i said,
chemicals aren't the direct solution.

god, i sound like such a fucking hippie.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-04 18:42 [#02436950]
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"Often just the fear of getting one will trigger
it.
"

I had them for years, constantly. What really helped me
though was getting over that fear that you're going to have
one. What I found helpful after reading an article about it,
was that you have to accept that you will have an attack,
you know what they're like, you know how you're going to
feel, and you know you'll eventually feel better again - so
kind of accepting that it's going to happen, rather than
waiting and monitoring how you feel (am I having a heart
attack, can I breathe properly, am I going to soil myself
(short answer: no) )- just give into it a bit, and it takes
the sting out. Then over time, ideally sooner rather than
later, the panic attacks become as troublesome as hiccups or
wind, and eventually go altogether.

I genuinely do wish you well as it is a nasty thing to go
through.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2012-07-04 19:30 [#02436956]
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With time you'll learn more to be wary of them coming on
rather than outright fearing it... they'll make you
miserable but they're not going to kill you. Hard to remind
yourself of that when you're having one, but you're still in
control of your body and there's things you can do
physically to make it easier to deal with them or lessen the
chances of panic conditions occurring. If you don't already,
start deep breathing in such a way that it's your
belly/abdomen rising instead of (or more than) your chest.
Relearn how to breathe if you have to.

And maybe this is silly but for me it helps to open up the
freezer and stick my head in, turn the cold up as much as
you can take. Though I guess if you're claustrophobic this
might exacerbate your panic symptoms. And it also makes you
hungry when you're face to face with a box of ice cream
sandwiches for 5 minutes. But it really does focus you
mentally, soothe you physically, makes you come down faster.


 

offline betamaxheadroom on 2012-07-05 00:48 [#02436968]
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what an excellent post. im 15 months now and going strong.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2012-07-07 17:56 [#02437118]
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Thanks for your comments heady, steiny, and ophy

Really appreciate it, and very nice and helpful too :)

To update, by reading lots about REBT, challenging my own
thoughts (and also accepting panic attacks if they happen --
thanks ophy!), and more realistically interpreting events,
has proven to help reduce my anxiety levels already quite
significantly! Am very happy today :)


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-07 19:27 [#02437119]
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that's great to hear! manhugs all around, folks!


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-07-07 23:58 [#02437124]
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You're all cunts. Whiny boring cunts. Get help elsewhere!


 

offline YosepH on 2012-07-08 01:18 [#02437126]
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I wish I could help you


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2012-07-08 02:51 [#02437127]
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I find your advice rather strange. As a social phobic person
ive been told to monitor my behaviour. So, exactly the
oppposite to what you guys do.


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-07-08 21:54 [#02437156]
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How about helping yourself? Maybe then you could help me
understand what help exactly i need from you.

You're a loveable dupe you know. But beyond obvious.


 


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