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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-07 22:01 [#02433903]
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actually i kinda don't have anyone to talk about this issue
so i hope maybe someone on xlt might now something about
electronics or maybe could ask someone else.

i bought this http://www.power-win.com/comm/upfile/p_110930_08791.pdf

and when checking the voltages, it would just output +5v but
not +12v nor -12v.

now there is a function called "remote on" - unscrewing the
device i found that one pin of the connector is going to the
pcb with a note "ps on".

now hoping it would be a matter of bridgeing this to ground
i did so and powered it on just to hear a slight sqeak
before i could power it off.

nothing smelled burned but after i launched it again without
the bridge it won't put out any voltage at all anymore :(

i triple checked and i have connected the right pin for
sure.

question is now - with all those safety thingies in this box
- how fucked am i?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-07 22:02 [#02433905]
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gotta love those lazy links

http://www.power-win.com/comm/upfile/p_110930_08791.pdf


 

offline voxRfks from Afghanistan on 2012-05-08 04:36 [#02433928]
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sorry, i need more physics courses, good luck


 

offline cwnt on 2012-05-08 08:09 [#02433938]
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set the flux capacitor to -3, doc brown's busy makin' coffee


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-08 09:17 [#02433943]
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no bananas


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2012-05-08 10:03 [#02433944]
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spierdolony zasilacz....krucho

a pyta³e¶ na forum elektroda.pl ? szybciej co¶ siê
pewnie dowiesz ni¿ tu


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-08 10:19 [#02433946]
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elektrod± brzydzê siê od lat. ta pierdolona moderacja to
jest jaki¶ absurd. ja nawet bojê siê wymy¶liæ
nag³ówek czy wybraæ kategoriê bo dostanê od razu milion
ostrze¿eñ od tych pata³achów.

ja mam takiego elektronicznego majstra to ja to do niego
zaniosê. to potrwa ale no s± najwiêksze szanse ¿e co¶
podzia³a.

na pewno tyle co siê popyta³em na necie to raczej nie ma
mo¿liwo¶ci ¿ebym co¶ ewidentnie zjara³ przy tylu
zabezpieczeniach. to mo¿e byæ g³upi bezpiecznik ma³y.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2012-05-08 20:57 [#02433975]
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PS-ON pin needs to be grounded for it to work.
You may have shorted it out to something which wasn't
ground, hence the squeak!
Sounds like you've probably broken the enable circuit.

Not sure why your other rails didn't come on at first. If
you didn't have any loads connected it may cause it. You
often see this with computer ATX power supplies. If you have
some high wattage resistors can connect these between the
voltage outputs and ground to act as loads.
Use ohms law V=IR to figure out what resistance you want.
Chose for a load current between min and max. The resistor
power rating is P=(I^2)*R. Too low and it will get very
hot!

You could always use an old hard disc for the load as this
will suck some mA on +5V and +12V.

Anyway, back to the enable circuit...
You'll have to figure out what this connects to.
Active low works by having a resistor from a voltage rail
connected to a logic input. You short the logic input to
ground, the resistor limits the current and the logic device
is triggered.

Hopefully the PS-ON is just a transistor that got frazzled.
If it's some custom chip then you're in trouble.

I'd avoid opening the lid and messing around with power
supplies in the future unless you are fully clued up.
Switching supplies will use high (lethal) voltages and even
the capacitors can store lethal charges for days.

I recommend you just buy a PC power supply as it will almost
certainly do the job you want and you can test it with a
computer first to ensure it's working.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-09 07:41 [#02433992]
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oh thanks for the elaborate answer !

yes indeed a few people confirmed that as this ps-on is low
active it was supposed to be grounded.

i'm still 100 % sure i grounded the right pin but there is a
slight chance that i grounded the vsb +5v standby line which
was active hence the squeak which was probably some diode on
the way.

i will leave it today at some local electronics guru and he
will take a look. worst case scenario is that the standby
line is dead.

the other rails didn't come on the same way a atx power
supply works - it also doesn't power on before you flick the
power switch. this makes a lot of sense for high power
supplys.

i could use a atx power supply yes or even better, an at one
as it has a manual on/off. in fact a lot of people do this
for this specific piece i want to power. but i just dislike
the fact having a huge and clunky psu with all that cable
salad and a fan lying around.

in fact i got the psu above for 3 euro and i'd still like to
use it very much. it just looks much more proper. of course
in case it works.


 


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