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taking_the_piz
on 2011-08-13 20:38 [#02419241]
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but one man without others in battlefield is useless
Thanks for ruining my childhood Rambo fantasies. Is nothing sacred anymore?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-13 21:04 [#02419246]
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erm, im quite happy with my life and my marriage reently collapsed and i lost my house in the last few months and ended up having to move back to my mum and dads at 38 (true). try being happy for what you have (not the material shit either), rather than being unhappy for trying to obtain a posistion in life that is unlikely to happen thus making you unhappy, bit like a dog chasing its tail. having said that, when i am unhappy, i get my record box out that contains all the records i love, cheers me up no end. why level 43's 'running in the family' is in there though remains a mystey to this day, and can at times lead to a dark deep depressions. ive tried mixing it with 'humanoid must not escape' but it wont work.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:06 [#02419247]
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Thats it. The army. I am joining the motherfucking army. Getting paid to kill people in Afghanistan for a better tomorrow!
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-13 21:08 [#02419248]
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dont join the army, join the conservatives, making britain great.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:12 [#02419249]
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No, it was Hannah Arendt
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-13 21:18 [#02419250]
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smart girl
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:26 [#02419251]
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My own thoughts are pretty bland.
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yann_g
from now on 2011-08-13 21:37 [#02419252]
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> I agree with you that one have to participate in building better tomorrow but one man without others in battlefield is useless. I believe u agree with this.
Hence, "accept the one you've got and stop whining."
> I think, its also true that we need to begin from our selfs, to make change.
Indeed. Even Michael Jackson sung it ;)
I'm Starting With The Man In The Mirror I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways And No Message Could Have Been Any Clearer If You Wanna Make The World A Better Place Take A Look At Yourself, And Then Make A Change (Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na, Na Nah)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:49 [#02419254]
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Na na na na child fucker na na na na na died of drug overdose na na na he had the right ideas but he was an asshole
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2011-08-14 10:02 [#02419274]
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>taking_the_piz Rambo is not just a man he is limitless, his magz never endz :)
>KEN how you able to be happy then?
>yann_g true :)
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-14 22:27 [#02419317]
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lots and lots of yorkshire tea, dog walking over the woods, friends, family and above jaffa cakes.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-14 22:32 [#02419318]
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meant to put above all else, jaffa cakes. im not above jaffa cakes. shit happens, you dont know whats around the corner, all cliches i know but true ones. you just have to pull up your trousers and get on with it.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-17 18:57 [#02419427]
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I lost my job today. They fired me and 35 other people (it was a temporary job). I feel sad and anexious. Right now i also do not have the feeling i am in control of my life, this is bugging me the most.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2011-08-17 21:29 [#02419429]
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Good luck to ya.
After being sacked it's quite logical to feel not having any control. But remember it's only a feeling. In reality, it's up to you for taking control of the situation.
Not that this is is going to give you your job back. But there's always new opportunities. You might want to dabble into eastern philosophies for a bit in your new free time. Maybe it'll give you some inspiration.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2011-08-18 05:33 [#02419434]
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Oh fuck I miss this. Sup, Monoid.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-18 05:54 [#02419436]
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I talked to the boss there. He said the 'asian market' is playing with their company. Seriously, what kind of shiitty society is that, if people can't take control of things.
People are responsible for what they do. Soon i will be unemployed, so it is not only the market who is responsible for this, but also the guy who fired.
If i however stabbed him with a screwdriver, i can not say the market made me do it.
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j4ck
from United Kingdom on 2011-08-18 11:59 [#02419442]
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welcome to the pent up rage of unemployment
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-18 16:18 [#02419446]
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Be proud you held on to this job so far!! good luck on finding a new job!
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-18 16:50 [#02419448]
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I called my old boss, eventually he wants me back. I dunno about this....i'd rather stay at home, read and play games....
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spculum
from MÜÜT on 2011-08-18 17:31 [#02419449]
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you should take some holidays... be more outdoors in contact with the sun (vitamin D). If you can pay for a holiday take a flight somewhere. You will appreciate your problems from another angle.. for sure.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-18 18:52 [#02419452]
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I also want to stay at home and do nothing all day..problem is that it doesnt pay my bills..
Compliments on calling your old boss straight away! I'm amazed by your action :-)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-18 19:12 [#02419454]
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Thats why i am all for communism. It is mentally and morally injurious to man to do anything in which he does not find
pleasure, and many forms of labour are quite pleasureless activities, and should be regarded as such.
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yann_g
from now on 2011-08-18 19:32 [#02419456]
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that's because it's pleasureless that you're paid for it
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 12:46 [#02419614]
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So, i am reading a book about the methods of cognitive behavioural therapy. It seems that modern psychology still can't explain why I have problems in social situations.
The ABC model is pretty simplistic and i have my doubts if it is helpful.
Compare modern psychology to other sciences lets say nuclear physics...it is a joke
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taking_the_piz
on 2011-08-21 12:48 [#02419616]
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Half of the explanation is in the definition of the problems. If psychology cannot explain your problems, odds are you haven't got your problems well defined.
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spculum
from MÜÜT on 2011-08-21 13:13 [#02419618]
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half the problem is seeing the problem.... bum bum bum bum
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 13:57 [#02419619]
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The problem is i dont like being around people. Now, no one ever in my family told me that people in general are dangerous and even if, how can such second hand experiences have such an impact on a person..
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taking_the_piz
on 2011-08-21 14:07 [#02419620]
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How about being more specific. You know, coping with your so-called problem might be really easy if you'd be more specific.
Trick is to be as specific as possible. Describe the person and the situation you last felt it. How did he behave. How did you behave. etc...
This is cognitive therapy 101. Son, I am disappoint.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 15:38 [#02419626]
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Hey i am just starting. Right now there isn't much to describe cuz the way i handle isn't optimal but it works.
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taking_the_piz
on 2011-08-21 16:34 [#02419632]
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1. It seems that modern psychology still can't explain why I have problems in social situations. The ABC model is pretty simplistic and i have my doubts if it is helpful.
2. Hey i am just starting. Right now there isn't much to describe cuz the way i handle isn't optimal but it works.
Allow me to try to define your problem. It's all in these 2 quotes. First let me tell you it's good that you're doing something about your problem (for whatever you think it is right now).
Second, from the looks of it, you're pretty quick to judge whether something would be successful or not. There's probably a couple of things going on behind this self-fulling behavior:
1. the belief your problems are too difficult/big for these simple solutions (well the thing is: how can you know as you aren't able to specify what your problem is?)
2. it's a form of self-protection. Because well, let me state the obvious: your problems have become part of your identity. And your unconscious won't let it go that easily. It has become part of your defense-mechanism.
After all these years your problems have become a source of certainty. And it gives you your significance Your need for significance is your biggest drive for thinking everyone in your environment is so dumb, btw. It's simply a way to distinguish yourself from your environment. And an unsustainable one at that. What might also be important is that your problems have become a incentive to learn new things. Which can be rewarding in and of itself.
What I think you should do is to ask yourself what your world would look like without your problems. What's the difference? If your problems are really a defense-mechanism, what are the underlying fears? Why the need to defend?
Be honest towards yourself about your need for significance. And try to look for other ways to meet these needs. Also understand (emotionally, NOT logically!!! logically you're already there. you need to understand emotionally) that you can still have the rewards of learn
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 16:55 [#02419633]
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Oh i have to think about that and maybe write more later.
The first step of cbt is to learn this abc model. However and here is something i do not understand: If these automatic thoughts are unconscious, no one has really access to them and therefore they are impossible to change.
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taking_the_piz
on 2011-08-21 17:26 [#02419636]
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Nope. Not impossible. Difficult, yes. It's not much different than writing music. You have to really digg into yourself to the point when you get a clear idea about your inner feelings and what not. Forget rationalizing your way out of this. Logic will only help you after you have discovered these inner processes.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-21 17:57 [#02419643]
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Save it for this messageboard
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-21 18:15 [#02419648]
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Psychology = science too, they have to prove theories are right just like nuclear science has to.
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yann_g
from now on 2011-08-21 19:10 [#02419651]
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> The problem is i dont like being around people.
That's the symptom, not the disease.
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yann_g
from now on 2011-08-21 19:24 [#02419652]
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If these automatic thoughts are unconscious, no one has really access to them and therefore they are impossible to change.
You can acces them by analyzing what you do (more than what you think), as if it were someone else. You can ask yourself "Why would someone do this?" You can find let's say 3 possible answers A, B and C, but none seem to apply to your case.
Later you get to analyze some other weird/bad thing you've done and find 3 other reasons, after some time you will see that some reasons occur more often than others, sometimes it just echoes weirdly in you, sometimes you realize that actually reason B explains so many things and later you accept that it's actually true. A psychoanalyst can give you a good sight of what you look like from the outside.
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yann_g
from now on 2011-08-21 20:04 [#02419654]
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I just remembered a sentence I heard recently, that really illustrate how I see my life: "Beware of what you want because you're gonna get it." But it applies to everybody. What we have is what we wanted, no matter how much it sucks.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 20:25 [#02419656]
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If you can access unconscious thoughts, they are by definition not unconscious (anymore) I highly doubt if (clinical?) psychology is a science after all, because there hundreds of diffrent kinds of therapies. If only one would actually work, you wouldn't need the rest.
I however think it is a noble idea to help people or humanity to be more in control of themselves
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2011-08-21 20:43 [#02419659]
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what is wrong about not liking to be around people ? that's perfectly reasonable as most of them want to make your life miserable. there's nothing weird about that.
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big
from lsg on 2011-08-21 20:49 [#02419660]
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Everybody feels pain sometimes
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yann_g
from now on 2011-08-21 21:46 [#02419662]
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I highly doubt if (clinical?) psychology is a science after all, because there hundreds of diffrent kinds of therapies. If only one would actually work, you wouldn't need the rest.
Some therapies can work better in some cases, and other therapies in other cases. Do believe in a medicine that would cure any disease?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 23:39 [#02419664]
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Dodo bird verdict
And Bruce Wampolds study:
In 2001, Bruce Wampold of the University of Wisconsin published the book The Great Psychotherapy Debate . In it Wampold, a former statistician who went on to train as a counseling psychologist, reported that 1. psychotherapy is indeed effective, 2. the type of treatment is not a factor, 3. the theoretical bases of the techniques used, and the strictness of adherence to those techniques are both not factors-Wikipedia
That should be enough now. Im not saying psychotherpy is all bullshit....just don't expect too much from it
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-22 00:43 [#02419665]
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I'm currently having very strange feelings, like im being overwhealmed with emotions from different angles, maybe over tired and thinking too much.... i hope i will be ok....
the feeling is really strong over my chest and i think maybe it's like a panic attack, i've never had anything like it before, normaly i am well balanced....
if anyone has any advice i'd appreciate it, i am serious btw i can't stop thinking negative things and my breathing is strange.... over thinking seems to be the cause, too many ideas about humanity exsistence etc etc but i don't know
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-22 01:38 [#02419666]
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have a walk outside and try to relax
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Geoffrey Mills
on 2011-08-22 03:20 [#02419670]
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i love u james
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Geoffrey Mills
on 2011-08-22 03:22 [#02419671]
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its amazing how ppl react to the obvious on a forum. i applaud you.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-08-22 03:23 [#02419672]
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Sometimes popping half an e up the ass every few days helps. Put on sunglasses to block bad vibez from going into your eyeballz, whilst focusing intensely on the goals you want to achieve. Then eat cilantro or natto, which taste so good. You will then feel like jillion dolla, especially cuz e up the ass.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-22 03:34 [#02419675]
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money doesn't make you happy, so popping e up your arse only gives cancer to your anus.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-22 05:26 [#02419676]
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I'm ok now, i think it must of been stress overload, a physiological attack that made me actually halucinate the walls having different angles.... fuck man that is not good
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2011-08-22 05:47 [#02419677]
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Maybe the american goverment hid mind controlling devices in those walls?
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