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melack
from barcielwave on 2011-05-22 01:28 [#02414432]
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are you aware? what you think?
not a real revolution, we just want some changes, a real democracy for the people enough of banks-politicians fake democracy its pretty nice the energy arround here peoples happy for a change and for a possible better future
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-22 02:31 [#02414435]
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..why dont the people start political groups whom they can vote for? Thats the principle of a democracy right?
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-05-22 03:09 [#02414437]
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The solution to everything: Kung Fu.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-22 03:14 [#02414439]
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are you from japan?
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taking_the_piz
on 2011-05-22 09:55 [#02414442]
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-.O
^^^ spanish people after having a new government, but still no jobs
...whatever keeps you from the streets is what i always say always
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melack
from barcielwave on 2011-05-22 10:26 [#02414444]
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thats what people will finally do, i guess, but that takes too long and difficult, and the electoral law is spacially made to protect those who already are there and its almost impossible to get something new to succeed
+ the problem of spain (similar to most countries, eua for example, i think) is that theres a great amount of people who dont think when voting and are just manipulated by some minories who make them believe things and fears that are not real, a few people who control the government, who have a system to protect themselves and are making lots of money and giving our money to the banks when normal people have an hilarious salary, or no money, or no job at all (almost 5 milions of people)
* the rules of the game have to be changed so we can create a more fair democracy and society. the people now on the power have to go away and some of the them directly to the prison (we are on election process now, for communities and cities government and more than 100 people on the lists are on judicial processes for corruption. that says it all)
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from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-22 15:16 [#02414450]
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Ok..I wonder what will happen than in your country after the elections today..will there be changes political?? That will take a while I guess..will they be protesting that long??
I understand your people dont want to be ruled by a couple of crooks and that they want changes.. Strangely enough they rise up now..when there is a global crisis and they really feel their problems, why was it not earlier a problem for them?
..it seems that they are blaming politicians for the fact there are a lot of people unemployed but thats also an europian problem..europa has got a big problem but I dont think your peoples problem will be solved with a new goverment in Spain. We've got to search for much bigger solutions for the economic crisis. But I hope this protest does do your country good..are you amongst the protesters on the street? Good luck and all!
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melack
from barcielwave on 2011-05-22 15:48 [#02414453]
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youre totally true, crazone, its a new world order what is gonna be created and its in our hands to decide were to go...
in spain people complaining just want to have some power of decition on ourselves and drive the change towards a more equal and fair society, respecting the planet and creating a more fair system of resources distribution.
we blame politicians because they did absolutly nothing more than giving money to banks and decreasing social services to save money. and after that they get somehow involved in a war (wtf?!?). and not talking about monarchy, some people getting lots of public money and procreating like rabbits. its an endemic problem we have here, postfranchist overprotected democracy, were some people can freely stole the rest without many problems.
this is a global problem (with the public money given to the banks you could solve the world starvation problem 54 times), but we should first change our country and rule as we like it to be.
i am amongst the protesters on the streets, as most of my friends and most of the people i know are, but i havent been totally involved yet, just my body and my limited noise habilities
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robbie_eleckt
from time to time on 2011-05-22 17:09 [#02414458]
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"not a real revolution, we just want some changes"
I think walking back and forth in the streets and shouting about changes you want won't change much, unless you e.g. burn a few banks for a start. These days "revolution" needs to be "real" in order to change things (--> Egypt) or am I wrong. Think french revolution 1787 - though I imagine it's easier said than done when you face armed police force , but one of eu countries must make a good start, others will (?) follow. Or we'll drown in this consumptionist/conformist matrix shit
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robbie_eleckt
from time to time on 2011-05-22 17:15 [#02414459]
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btw
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taking_the_piz
on 2011-05-22 18:19 [#02414463]
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that real democracy is an even bigger illusion than the one you are in now. i do agree however that governments need to grow bigger balls when it comes to re-organizing the financial systems. when it comes to putting the financial institutions back in line, they'e a bunch of whiney little wussbags.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-05-22 18:35 [#02414465]
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I am from kung fu.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-22 22:23 [#02414473]
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kung fu island or bruce lee's ass?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2011-05-22 22:55 [#02414476]
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iceland already made the first step took the government down nacionalized the banks wrote a new constitution
video of man explaining
here we are too many people im afraid and most of it specially stupid and mindless im fucking upset now disaster on elections (even an important grow of fascist group)
new step of organization of the angry people started lets see if it goes somewhere or it just remain as a mere anecdote
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2011-05-22 23:08 [#02414478]
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a window to the truth for the living
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 00:12 [#02414479]
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yeah its all one big chaos in europe financially..how did the elections go today? Any results..further plans? Still demonstrating? I hope it all get better soon for you all!
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melack
from barcielwave on 2011-05-23 00:33 [#02414480]
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the elections were a previsible shit
demostrations will indifinetly continue plans come for a better organization on a further social communication and other ways of politique pressure
expecting medias slowly ignoring the thing and police kicking people out the occupied squares in mid-term time
plan B is creating a paralel autosuficient society and send the thiefs and those who want to be stolen to fuck their mummies
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 01:47 [#02414481]
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I hope there will be no violence used against you and your people..it all seems pretty peacefull in the media here...but I dont get what the plans are: what do the people want to hear from your goverment? That they leave right away?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2011-05-23 01:47 [#02414482]
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Do me a cheesey Quaver.
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from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 03:09 [#02414483]
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So you think a bunch of ravers will save europe?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2011-05-23 03:22 [#02414484]
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It's rhyming slang for 'favour' Holland lost centuries ago!
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 03:43 [#02414485]
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do me a favour or cheesey quaver: don't talk about the losses of Holland..specially in a thread about Spain.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-05-23 03:44 [#02414486]
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Just... kung fu. Kung fu itself.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 04:19 [#02414488]
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Aha! kung fu itself next to tai chi..
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-05-23 06:32 [#02414494]
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Well, next to Burger King, anyway.
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nacmat
on 2011-05-23 10:01 [#02414496]
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power to the people!!!
I hope the spanish revolution grows bigger now... difficult days are coming now that PP is all over the place
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 16:05 [#02414502]
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the kung fu resident:
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-05-23 16:46 [#02414503]
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yes
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melack
from barcielwave on 2011-05-27 14:43 [#02414697]
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we got some police love
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