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offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 07:51 [#02414337]
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I read something interesting recently, that people are only
partly responsible for other peoples emotions.
That means if you articulate one of your needs, and the
other person gets 'angry' you are not 'making' them angry,
but just trigger certain kinds of emotions, but it is up to
the other person how she emotionally reacts.
Now, what do you think about this? I also ask myself if it
is than possible, to choose to fall in love with someone or
to choose not to..


 

offline robbie_eleckt from time to time on 2011-05-21 08:24 [#02414341]
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let me think


 

offline Portnoy on 2011-05-21 09:50 [#02414348]
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that sounds about right, "partly responsible". We're
certainly not wholly responisble. It is up to either party
to act suitably. You just realised this after reading that?

As for the falling in love thing...I don't think you can
choose to be attracted to someone....especially when you're
head over heals, you have no control man...


 

offline Portnoy on 2011-05-21 09:54 [#02414349]
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then again you can choose to pursue/indulge or ignore that
feeling....not always very easy though...


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 10:12 [#02414350]
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I sometimes thought 'what did i say to make this person
angry?'. Especially when i was younger i was kinda confused
about the reactions of some people.


 

offline Portnoy on 2011-05-21 10:27 [#02414351]
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Yes.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 10:52 [#02414353]
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But do we have control or not? Is it possible to mentally
control feelings or even let them vanish? And is that always
healthy?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2011-05-21 11:55 [#02414354]
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i dont believe you can just "decide" to not be affected by
stuff, but, if you learn well (by experience, reflection and
changed behaviour) chances are you wont be triggered by
certain events or persons and you may be getting on top of a
lot of emotions.



 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 13:09 [#02414355]
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So, what does that mean when you interact with other people?
How far can you go and tell yourself that it is not your
fault if the other person acts pissed off or sad?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2011-05-21 13:42 [#02414356]
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ask the person.
no way this can be generalized and its natural to do faults,
so just accept that you do wrongs too.



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2011-05-21 13:52 [#02414357]
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this feels so basic, but mostly everyone forgets these
simple things every once in a while :)


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2011-05-21 13:55 [#02414358]
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love is the involuntary response to virtue


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-21 14:03 [#02414359]
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read something about this: cognitive behaviour


 

offline robbie_eleckt from time to time on 2011-05-21 15:31 [#02414368]
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it roughly depends on the percentage of brain humans use


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 18:13 [#02414383]
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Yeah, cognitive behaviour therapy is what my former
therapist suggested to me, after 2 years of conventional
psychotherapy.
But we always had something to laugh.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-21 18:30 [#02414385]
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you can have a good laugh from CBT too....even better.


 

offline IJO on 2011-05-21 18:49 [#02414386]
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We all choose how to react to certain situations, and sure
indeed if someone's getting angry on you it's 100% his
thing, you have nothing to do with this. U can control
things like anger, sadnes etc by just choosing how to be,
what to experience. Let everything go and love the existence
:)


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 18:54 [#02414387]
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Yes, i am scared but neverthless it is laughable


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-21 22:23 [#02414397]
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what are you afraid of?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 22:44 [#02414398]
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Nothing really. I feel pretty comfortable


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-21 22:47 [#02414399]
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nice..how come?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 22:52 [#02414400]
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I changed my 'inner team'


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-21 23:09 [#02414402]
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great! congs on that.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-21 23:18 [#02414403]
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Now i am going to kill a hooker. thanks guys.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2011-05-23 22:18 [#02414527]
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You are autistic, Mon.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2011-05-23 23:03 [#02414532]
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i feel like eating marshmallows


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-05-23 23:39 [#02414534]
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emotions like donuts and marshmallows


 

offline Use from Miami,Fl-Northern WI (United States) on 2011-05-24 02:29 [#02414543]
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i'm asburgers, my shit is pretty fucked but the quieter and
more preconceived I am internally helps.


 

offline robbie_eleckt from time to time on 2011-05-24 19:00 [#02414574]
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i feel like eating now as well


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-05-24 19:32 [#02414575]
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I don't like to walk on 'emotional eggshells' but around
many people i fear to act more naturally, because they might
get pissed off or whatever.
Now, i even suspect that some (!) people, intentionally
place these eggshells for other people to walk in.
All in all that borders on manipulation and emotional
slavery.


 

offline Portnoy on 2011-05-24 19:55 [#02414577]
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some people are touchier or more sensitive than others. As
you get to know people better, you learn what they're like.

the whole intentionally placing eggshells thing, be careful
you don't think that when it's not there.

I'm saying this shit but I'm no fucking expert. I can be
very tactless.


 

offline welt on 2011-05-25 02:11 [#02414596]
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today i shared an s-bahn carriage with a group of mentally
retarded children. they were about 10 children and 3 care
workers. one retarded girl was in a bad mood, because her
right hand hurt (because she fell from her bunk-bed last
night, i gathered). the others were all in good spirits,
drooling and discussing lemonade, mobile phones, sperm and
masturbation. they showed no signs of feeling awkward,
inhibited or depressed whatsoever. .... so maybe
brain-damage is a serious candidate for overcoming emotional
problems.


 

offline paige__turner from Sultan City (Barbados) on 2011-05-25 02:49 [#02414598]
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Are the eggshells that they walk on the same as the ones
they throw at people's houses,?


 


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