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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-04-11 15:25 [#00167768]
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Two weird stars -- one too cold, the other too small to fit known astronomical models -- show evidence for a
completely new form of matter, astronomers said on Wednesday.
Scientists believe these stars could be made
not of atoms, or even of the sub-atomic
particles called neutrons, but of free-floating
sub-sub-atomic particles called quarks, and
strange quarks at that.
neutron stars, which before this discovery (news - web sites) were the
most extreme form of matter known.
Neutron stars are almost unimaginably dense: a teaspoon of neutron star material weighs a billion
tons (1.016 billion tonnes), or as much as all cars, trucks and buses on
Earth.
Can you imagine that... a teaspoon weighs more than all the automobiles on Earth! Even though it's not possible Imagine if an astronaut found this new star which weighs even more than a neutron star and scooped a teaspoon of it in 0 gravity space. Took it in the 0 gravity space shuttle, not knowing it's weight and then came back to Earth, where when in Earth's gravity the thing began to weigh it's reall weight. It would be so heavy it'd slam through the spaceshuttle down to Earth.
There is so much we don't know
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:30 [#00167776]
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HEY, but we know this: it's being taught in school.
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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-04-11 15:33 [#00167783]
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Think how much other stuff we don't know about... I look back at when people thought the world was flat, and I feel like that right now. We think we know everything, but I bet we don't know the least of it, and half of what we are teaching is probably totally false and we'll die before they discover all these other new matters, and galaxies, and properties. Oh well.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-11 15:36 [#00167786]
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I know more than you, therefore your hypothesis is incorrect.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:24 [#00167954]
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I read something on Cosmiverse that claimed there are hundreds of earth-like planets in the milky way alone.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:32 [#00169381]
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Where did this info coem from? Do you have a link?
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:39 [#00169388]
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In response to the original message.
Wouldn't something like that have a ridiculous amount of gravity?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:41 [#00169389]
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Gravity has a direct relation to mass, right? More mass, higher gravity.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-04-12 07:47 [#00169398]
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No. Gravity is more like a magnetic force.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:51 [#00169401]
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mass can stay the same, but if the density of a particle is increased, the acceleration due to gravity and the gravitational potential energy are increased.
g=(G*M)/R^2
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:52 [#00169402]
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By direct I mean in the mathematical sense. In other words, as mass increases, gravity also increases.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:52 [#00169404]
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mass and the radius of the object make a difference...which is density
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 07:54 [#00169405]
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your picture kicks ass.the human brain evolved because individuals with more smarts were more successful at replicating their genes... our brains weren't really designed to grasp the concept of everything, it just happens that we can understand relatively complex concepts and ideas with language etc. someone said the outer shell sphere around earth is the "neurosphere" because that's where all the thinking is and stuff or something and junk and stuff. But it's not like I know anything either so what I said was probably wrong or something, I forgot what I said actually... I'm hungry.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:54 [#00169407]
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I'm not arguing that :) I'm simply saying what I've said, and it still holds. It's the reason why the answer to your question is "yes",
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 07:58 [#00169411]
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I think you're just foolin around but aren't mass and density the same? mass and weight are different though. weight is the measurement of gravitational pull, mass is the measure of "stuff".
gravity is actually a form of light which is one of the forms of potatoe salad. There are 3 kinds of potatoe salad in the universe, everything is composed from them.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:59 [#00169413]
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Tthat's true, about the potatoe salad.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:00 [#00169415]
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"You have more connections in your brain than there are literally grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth. Carl Sagan has pointed out that in every brain, your fantastic one included, there are more combinations of connections than there are protons and neutrons in the universe."
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:01 [#00169416]
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yeah, there's no need to argue...
I like my potato salad with mustard, boiled eggs, onions, and some salt.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:02 [#00169417]
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Argue? Onions?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:02 [#00169418]
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Don't speak of the divine as if you're going to eat it!
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:03 [#00169420]
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DOh!
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:07 [#00169421]
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speaking of the mysteries of the universe... has anyone heard of the "string theory"?
the theory that everything (much smaller than atoms or quarks) is composed of strings of energy that make random shaped loops.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:10 [#00169425]
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that sounds familiar, ... I didn't really understand it if I'm even right in recalling it. Didn't it have something to do with recursive stuff, was it from the book godel escher bach? I fotger
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:10 [#00169426]
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fcuk ouy
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:11 [#00169428]
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Yes, I watched a program on it nd there was this mad raving physicist who was so stoked on, talking about "The ancients had it all along! The universe IS music! It's strings! It's vibration!"
And according to Einstein and his famous equation, matter and energy are two different forms of the same thiung and energy is vibration. It's all so perfect! We are vibration.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:14 [#00169429]
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Yes, but even at that level, there is a linear equation for every path the string can create. There is an integral and a differential equation for that path. Truly relative from the largest to the smallest.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:14 [#00169431]
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I read about like exkimos or something, and I guess they achieve a zen altered state of consciousness on "nothing" when they wait in their, uh, tee... teepees, yeah, like awaiting the winter or something, yeah. Like, thinking about absolutely nothing sounds nice or something.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:16 [#00169433]
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This string theory is wack, everything isn't made of strings, it's made of paper clips! I can't believe how mislead everyone is.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:17 [#00169434]
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It does sound nice, but my mind is loaded at the moment. Nothingness will have to wait until my trip to Lake Superior for sunrise on summer solstice. That will be sublime.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:17 [#00169435]
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Of course paperclips are one of the 3 forms of potatoe salad...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:18 [#00169436]
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Maybe I just want to disagree, if everyone was thinking about nothing, I'd want to think about everything.
*thinks about pineapples*
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:22 [#00169438]
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I don't remember anything about the string theory except for the mad physicist; it's the only thing in the video that was applicable to my life at the time I saw it. 9th grade physical science class I believe. My teacher was into some intersting heretical things that I'm sure the school didn't want her teaching us. She would tell us things like we are evolving into telepathic beings, which at the time was incredible, but obvious at this point. I have no idea what your talking about... can you go further into these paths created by the string? And are you saying this means it's not all energy? Cause that would break my heart :(
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:23 [#00169440]
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Or rather, if you don't feel like getting detailed, show me a link?
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