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offline regital from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-04-11 15:25 [#00167768]
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Two weird stars -- one too cold, the
other too small to fit known astronomical
models -- show evidence for a
completely new form of matter, astronomers
said on Wednesday.

Scientists believe these
stars could be made
not of atoms, or even of
the sub-atomic
particles called
neutrons, but of free-floating
sub-sub-atomic particles
called quarks, and
strange quarks at that.


neutron stars, which before this discovery
(news - web sites) were the
most extreme form of matter known.

Neutron stars are almost
unimaginably dense: a teaspoon of neutron
star material weighs a billion
tons (1.016 billion tonnes), or as much as
all cars, trucks and buses on
Earth.

Can you imagine that... a teaspoon weighs more than all the
automobiles on Earth! Even though it's not possible Imagine
if an astronaut found this new star which weighs even more
than a neutron star and scooped a teaspoon of it in 0
gravity space. Took it in the 0 gravity space shuttle, not
knowing it's weight and then came back to Earth, where when
in Earth's gravity the thing began to weigh it's reall
weight. It would be so heavy it'd slam through the
spaceshuttle down to Earth.

There is so much we don't know



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:30 [#00167776]
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HEY, but we know this: it's being taught in school.


 

offline regital from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-04-11 15:33 [#00167783]
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Think how much other stuff we don't know about... I look
back at when people thought the world was flat, and I feel
like that right now. We think we know everything, but I bet
we don't know the least of it, and half of what we are
teaching is probably totally false and we'll die before they
discover all these other new matters, and galaxies, and
properties. Oh well.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-11 15:36 [#00167786]
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I know more than you, therefore your hypothesis is
incorrect.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:24 [#00167954]
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I read something on Cosmiverse that claimed there are
hundreds of earth-like planets in the milky way alone.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:32 [#00169381]
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Where did this info coem from? Do you have a link?


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:39 [#00169388]
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In response to the original message.

Wouldn't something like that have a ridiculous amount of
gravity?


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:41 [#00169389]
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Gravity has a direct relation to mass, right? More mass,
higher gravity.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-04-12 07:47 [#00169398]
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No. Gravity is more like a magnetic force.



 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:51 [#00169401]
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mass can stay the same, but if the density of a particle is
increased, the acceleration due to gravity and the
gravitational potential energy are increased.

g=(G*M)/R^2


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:52 [#00169402]
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By direct I mean in the mathematical sense. In other words,
as mass increases, gravity also increases.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:52 [#00169404]
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mass and the radius of the object make a difference...which
is density


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 07:54 [#00169405]
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your picture kicks ass.the human brain evolved because
individuals with more smarts were more successful at
replicating their genes... our brains weren't really
designed to grasp the concept of everything, it just happens
that we can understand relatively complex concepts and ideas
with language etc. someone said the outer shell sphere
around earth is the "neurosphere" because that's where all
the thinking is and stuff or something and junk and stuff.
But it's not like I know anything either so what I said was
probably wrong or something, I forgot what I said
actually... I'm hungry.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:54 [#00169407]
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I'm not arguing that :) I'm simply saying what I've said,
and it still holds. It's the reason why the answer to your
question is "yes",


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 07:58 [#00169411]
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I think you're just foolin around but aren't mass and
density the same? mass and weight are different though.
weight is the measurement of gravitational pull, mass is the
measure of "stuff".

gravity is actually a form of light which is one of the
forms of potatoe salad. There are 3 kinds of potatoe salad
in the universe, everything is composed from them.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 07:59 [#00169413]
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Tthat's true, about the potatoe salad.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:00 [#00169415]
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"You have more connections in your brain than there are
literally grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth. Carl
Sagan has pointed out that in every brain, your fantastic
one included, there are more combinations of connections
than there are protons and neutrons in the universe."


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:01 [#00169416]
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yeah, there's no need to argue...

I like my potato salad with mustard, boiled eggs, onions,
and some salt.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:02 [#00169417]
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Argue? Onions?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:02 [#00169418]
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Don't speak of the divine as if you're going to eat it!


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:03 [#00169420]
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DOh!


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:07 [#00169421]
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speaking of the mysteries of the universe... has anyone
heard of the "string theory"?

the theory that everything (much smaller than atoms or
quarks) is composed of strings of energy that make random
shaped loops.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:10 [#00169425]
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that sounds familiar, ... I didn't really understand it if
I'm even right in recalling it. Didn't it have something to
do with recursive stuff, was it from the book godel escher
bach? I fotger


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:10 [#00169426]
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fcuk ouy


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:11 [#00169428]
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Yes, I watched a program on it nd there was this mad raving
physicist who was so stoked on, talking about "The ancients
had it all along! The universe IS music! It's strings!
It's vibration!"

And according to Einstein and his famous equation, matter
and energy are two different forms of the same thiung and
energy is vibration. It's all so perfect! We are
vibration.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:14 [#00169429]
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Yes, but even at that level, there is a linear equation for
every path the string can create. There is an integral and
a differential equation for that path. Truly relative from
the largest to the smallest.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:14 [#00169431]
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I read about like exkimos or something, and I guess they
achieve a zen altered state of consciousness on "nothing"
when they wait in their, uh, tee... teepees, yeah, like
awaiting the winter or something, yeah. Like, thinking about
absolutely nothing sounds nice or something.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:16 [#00169433]
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This string theory is wack, everything isn't made of
strings, it's made of paper clips! I can't believe how
mislead everyone is.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:17 [#00169434]
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It does sound nice, but my mind is loaded at the moment.
Nothingness will have to wait until my trip to Lake Superior
for sunrise on summer solstice. That will be sublime.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:17 [#00169435]
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Of course paperclips are one of the 3 forms of potatoe
salad...


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 08:18 [#00169436]
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Maybe I just want to disagree, if everyone was thinking
about nothing, I'd want to think about everything.
*thinks about pineapples*


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:22 [#00169438]
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I don't remember anything about the string theory except for
the mad physicist; it's the only thing in the video that was
applicable to my life at the time I saw it. 9th grade
physical science class I believe. My teacher was into some
intersting heretical things that I'm sure the school didn't
want her teaching us. She would tell us things like we are
evolving into telepathic beings, which at the time was
incredible, but obvious at this point. I have no idea what
your talking about... can you go further into these paths
created by the string? And are you saying this means it's
not all energy? Cause that would break my heart :(


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-12 08:23 [#00169440]
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Or rather, if you don't feel like getting detailed, show me
a link?


 


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