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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 11:05 [#00167510]
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Is anyone into them? I just read a really good biog on the band by Simon Price. I highly recommend it.
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kalaim badkaama
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who are they? what do they do?
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Jedi Chris
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Where to did you read it Jonesey?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 11:10 [#00167517]
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They're an alternative rock band.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 11:11 [#00167519]
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Its a book called 'Everything: a book about Manic Street Preachers'.
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Jedi Chris
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From the valleys boyyo!
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-04-11 11:47 [#00167547]
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I was over in Ireland a couple of weeks ago and ALMOST BOUGHT THAT BOOK!!
I was looking for that Modulations book about dance music and I saw it with the cool cover with the four shirts.
I'd heard it was good. I'd better get it then. Thanks for reminding me :-))
btw have you seen the MSP DVD Leaving The 20th Century? It's pretty good.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-04-11 11:54 [#00167552]
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they are great. great songs. there are no bad songs on the album "everything must go" its a great album.
fuckin great!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 11:56 [#00167554]
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Is it the Millenium concert in Cardiff? I bought the video and went myself.
The book is definitley worth reading. I don't like the stuff they've done since the Holy Bible but I still see them as a great band. Check this interview
http://www.abisti.demon.co.uk/simon_price.htm
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-04-11 11:58 [#00167555]
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the holy bible isnt that good. the best album is without no doubt "everything must go"
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 12:01 [#00167558]
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No, no, no! Its definitley the Holy Bible. The band went shit when Richey left. The music on the bible is so raw and stripped down. The lyrics are just amazing.
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Bob Mcbob
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you like the manics?!? you get all sorts of weirdos round here! :)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 12:06 [#00167563]
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jonesy: ovde bate
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 12:08 [#00167564]
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You dirty bugger Meho. Can't view that sexist stuff here i'm afraid.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 12:08 [#00167565]
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no, its ovde
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 12:10 [#00167566]
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actually, I don't get it, that link should get you to somewhere else but I can't seem to be able to reach it. Try cut and pasting it into your browser. It's not dirty, it's something u love
http://www.tightcelebs.com/jenniferl/jennifer4.htm
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-04-11 12:48 [#00167601]
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...a fav of mine from MSP is the motorcycle emptyness song...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 12:52 [#00167609]
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I only like "Found that soul". That and their album launch gig in Havana. But that was obviously marketing gesture. But they pissed a lot of fools off with that so, thumbz up.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 13:14 [#00167625]
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Yeah they pissed me off. Castro is a bloody dictator who locks up gays for fucks sake. I never understand those on the left align themselves with Cuba. I'd have rathered they'd met Arafat.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 13:20 [#00167630]
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have you checked the link?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 13:32 [#00167641]
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Yeah its naked celebs right? Something on the top of my screen where it says 'internet explorer' and the website address had something about sex screening on it. They have filters here or something, or things that register what you look at.
I typed a memo recently regarding students of this college looking at porn. They'll get kicked out if caught so i must be careful.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 13:37 [#00167648]
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assholes!!! Fucking filters. Then, I'll mail some of it to you. Hang on a second...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 13:43 [#00167651]
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There, check it out!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 13:56 [#00167664]
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Can't look at that stuff here man - too many eyes on my back. Cheers anyway.
If you haven't heard the Holy Bible check it out. Its really raw and the lyrics are class - stuff about anorexia, the Holocaust, US imperialism, prostitution, self mutilation...
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-04-11 13:58 [#00167666]
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they are great lyrics on the record, i love that but i dont think the songs are that good.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 13:59 [#00167667]
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Uhh, just put those pics on a disc and take 'em home. But it's not porn, just JL Hewitt in various pretty pics, she's not even naked or anything. Yeah, my girlfriend digs MSP, but they are way too "pop" for these ears. And I know about their lyrics and all, but it always sounded like a pose to me. Have you ever been into Conflict, now that was great: thrash with militant anarchist lyrics!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 14:05 [#00167671]
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Oh right, yeah they're nice thanks. She's beautiful. I'm such a teenager ha, ha.
Never heard of Conflict. Do you like Napalm Death?
Yeah the most of the Manics stuff is AOR pop rock but the Holy Bible is something else. Richey James was a smart guy but that nicky wire is a dick. He thinks he's really clever but comes out with crap.
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-04-11 14:10 [#00167677]
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I saw MSP at Rock im Park last year. They played pretty much a greatest hits set and they didn't play Miss Europa Disco Dancer or Wattsville Blues thank god, which are both a waste of time.
I used to like Motorcycle Emptiness and Theme from MASH before I was a fan. The first album I bought was Everything Must Go.
That and The Holy Bible are my favourites, for different reasons.
I think Generation Terrorists is 70% shit Gold Against The Soul about the same This Is My Truth...snore... but their last album with a few exceptions was surprisingly good.
Brilliant car music. Found That Soul is their Go Let It Out though. Just a standard shoutalong song. Nothing amazing.
I've also got 21 Manics singles although hardly any before EMG.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 14:11 [#00167679]
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The fucking cunts in my office are really annoying me, so now I put drukqs in my cd drive: try this one for size fucking bitches!!!! They smoke and talk shit all day...
Anyway, I LOOVE old Napalm Death (up to 1989, after that they chenged line-up and went incredible shit), one of my bands is a total ND clone and we've been going for the last ten years... I even heard some bizare story that Napalm Death sampled my voice on their Enemy Of The Music Business (sic) album, a bunch of punks and metalheads from my country swear that's my voice... But I never had any intention to hear the album... Fuck them, fuck them, fuck them...
Conflict were really influential in the 80s, but did some stuff in the 90s too. Anyway, MSP is hardly my fave band, but I'll try to give that album a listen, just because of you. Do you want more JLH's pics?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 14:12 [#00167680]
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I'd agree with your take on their albums. I've not heard the latest one. This Is My... put me off for good.
There's some early b-sides which are good. If you want some I can send you a tape.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 14:16 [#00167686]
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Yeah more pics would be nice. Keep it clean now Meho!
Sorry to hear that your colleagues are getting on your tits. I know how you feel.
I've been meaning to check out some ND for a while. I was onna go and see them last year but forgot about the gig until it was too late.
So you're in a band? cool. I used to listen to heavy stuff, the usual though: Machine Head, Sepultura, Pantera, Fear Factory, Korn (oh dear).
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 14:21 [#00167692]
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oh dear, oh dear... The new Napalm Death is crap, but you might like it, judging from that list of bands there. Well, I liked 1st Fear Factory and 1st Korn (oh, dear) and Sepultura is one of my fave bands even today. If you want REAL napalm death, check out "Scum" or "From enslavement to obliteration" or, better double peel sessions, probably the best grindcore record of all times. About my bands, check out that other thread called a proposition to all or something...
Oh, yeah, I'll get more pics in a minute...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 14:27 [#00167700]
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I was playing Roots the other day. Its still great. Did you get any Soulfly? I sold mine as I didn't like it much.
I bet you love Limp Bizkit don't you? Ha, ha. I saw them supporting Korn with Helmet years ago. They sucked then.
Didn't Barney from ND get into some shit with some nazis in Russia some years back?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 14:40 [#00167713]
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Yeah, Barney got in some shit with some band they were supposed to play with in Russia, and this band was more or less sporting some fascist views. But in Russia, that's practically improvement... Anyway, ND are full of shit from 1989 on and all of this was more about the marketing than about reality. (a piece of trivia: as Conflict were promised to be attacked by Aryan Nation or some other Racist/ Nazi organisation on their first US tour, they brought baseball bats with them to fight the bastards!! That's some fucking attitude)
Limp Bizkit? They suck as hard as any of the bands that were spawned from Bio-Hazard's fucking sperm. I always said that I don't hate Bio-Hazard as much as all the crap that comes in their wake (and I kinda hated Bio-Hazard bigtime). Actually there's this website called durstsucks,com or something, I'll try to find it: it's devoted to thrashing Bizkit's singer... Ahh, soulfly is too formulaic for me I'm afraid... Try bands like Neurosis, TodayIs The Day and Discordance Axis for some of the most extreme, yet respectable music nowadays.
Ahh the fat bitch by myself suffers from Aphex Acid. Die, cunt!!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 14:41 [#00167714]
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Oh, BTW, I sent you da pics, now you have many more pics for your avatar: use em.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 14:53 [#00167725]
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Cheers Meho.
When I was getting into heavier stuff (heavier than poodle rock) I bough this magazine which had a free tape with it. It had stuff like ND and Bolt Thrower on it. I played it but thought there was something wrong with the tape and took it apart and reversed the tape inside. What a dick!!!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 14:54 [#00167728]
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uuuu, Bolt Thrower used to kick!!! Thanks for that link, but those girlz are not even nude... Anyway, you might like to kno that everyone in my office is complaining because of the music...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:03 [#00167743]
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The woman in my office started SCREAMING at the end of 54 Cymru Beats. SUFFER!!!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 15:06 [#00167746]
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Are you allowed to play music? This place (Britain) is so uptight that the radio is all you can get away with.
Why don't you bring in some ND tomorrow?
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-04-11 15:08 [#00167750]
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The end of 54 Cymru Beats is so extreme. Venetian Snares comes nowhere near, even though he's great too.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:15 [#00167758]
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No, if i bring something obviously extreme, they'll make me stop it. Therefore, APHEX does the trick as he swings from sweet to hellish. But I do play Dead Kennedys and other HC/punk when nobody is in the office. Of course, for these people even BoC is extreme...
Uhh, yes, the end of that song is really painful, but Venetian Snares is like that all the time, I couldn't play it here, they'd shoot me.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 15:21 [#00167764]
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Dead Kennedys - Too Drunk to Fuck, ha, ha.
Any recommendations on them. I never investigated the punk/HC scene. closes I got was Sick of it All.
Have you heard of the Stormtroopers of Death? Are they nazis?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:27 [#00167769]
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SOD were a side project: two guys from Anthrax, one from MOD and one from Nuclear assault (but he was also in Anthrax before). Their first album was like, made in three days and was like: metal boys give a nod to hardcore. But it was really good, even though it more or less betrayed hardcore ethics with lyrics about this and that. But it got very popular and kicked that whole crossover thing in the 80s. They made another live album in '92 and another studio one in '99. They have a thing for making 7 years visits. Anyway, some of the lyrics on that first LP were about unity and usual HC stuff, but Billy Millano (their singer and an all around asshole) also made some racist and nationalist lyrics (I mean the album is called Speak English or Die: aimed at immigrants). Sore throat, a grindcore act from (i think) Bradford then made a bunch of songs trashing Billy Milano etc....
Dead Kennedys: a band for you, my man: some of the best political lyrics ever written plus kickass music. I have all of their official stuff burned on 5 CD's, so if you need it, drop me a line.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-11 15:32 [#00167779]
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This girl I was friends with back in high school, her brother was into HC and gave me a list of stuff he could copy for me. One included SOD and then I saw the Speak English or Die album the other day.
This guy put a nazi song on a tape for me. It was from the film Romper Stomper. Nice.
I read recently that Ice t was really into an Oi band called Screwdriver. Weird!
I'd love to hear some Dead Kennedys and would be willing to send you some stuff in return. I'm stuck in the past however and still use tapes. I haven't got a PC to burn CDs on.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:36 [#00167788]
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no probs, man, some £ could be OK too, just fer the costs (about £2.5 per CD plus 4-5 or less for postage I'd imagine).
Yeah Ice-T was into Skrewdriver, a well known fact. Stupid asshole... I mean, their music was shit anyway, xcept for the early stuff (when they still didn't have any RAC/ NS affiliations). If you want to trade, send us a mail, as not to abuse this splendid messageboard.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:37 [#00167790]
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notice it's sKrewdriver
That fucker, Ian Stuart got killed in a carcrash some years ago, tho
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-11 15:38 [#00167791]
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and not all oi bands are RAC/ NS, please, notice
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