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welt
on 2011-04-15 21:13 [#02411201]
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i recently re-read tolstoy's confession.
the steps of his spiritual crisis and resurrection are roughly these:
(1) the problem is that death is certain and that there is no meaning in life which death does not destroy. it's thus best to kill oneself as soon as possible. tolstoy takes this to be a rational insight every honest rational creature has to arrive at.
(2) once having arrived the conclusion that mankind should not exist he is deeply astonished by the fact that - even though life is ultimately meaningless - mankind does exist and that one faces a vague, but deep inhibition to kill oneself.
(3) he realizes that he asked the wrong questions all along. the meaning of life is not accessible through natural science, philosophical speculation or a life of material pleasures. one sees that life is meaningful once one stops living for oneself, but adopts an altruisitc attitude and starts living for the whole of mankind.
.......... that's how tolstoy solved his existential problems .. how do you solve yours?
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2011-04-16 00:43 [#02411224]
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have u met Monoid?
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welt
on 2011-04-16 00:59 [#02411226]
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what?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2011-04-16 01:09 [#02411230]
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have u met Monoid?
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welt
on 2011-04-16 01:16 [#02411233]
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wherefore?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2011-04-16 02:19 [#02411245]
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Surely there are better places to ask questions that you don't understand.
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welt
on 2011-04-16 02:33 [#02411246]
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how can one ask a question one doesn't understand? .. that would be a pseudo-question and thus no question at all. it would be nonsense of a sort.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2011-04-16 02:35 [#02411247]
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what is blue?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2011-04-16 02:49 [#02411248]
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one sees that life is meaningful once one stops living for oneself, but adopts an altruisitc attitude and starts living for the whole of mankind.
But what is the difference? If you already decide that doing anything for yourself is meaningless because there is nothing that death cannot take from you, how is it different if you apply it to some legacy or charity? Whatever you do for others death will also take from them. The whole of mankind are just as much the walking dead as the individual. You may do something that will benefit generations a thousand years apart from you, but that generation will die just as certainly as yours.
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