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stuff about musical & visual memory i came up with
 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 14:34 [#02398236]
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listening to music and working with photoshop for years
made me came up with this theories. i'll have to put these
as a stories cos it's a combination of stories i heard
coming in some way or another.

so you have a pic, and you work out that pic color for some
time. if you take a break from the work, you go elsewhere
smoking a cig for example, and you go back to the pic,
you'll never, ever see that pic the way you left it.

the same thing happens with music if you happen to make
some, and perhaps that might be one of the reasons why we
listen to the same tracks over and over.

there must be written in all books about color that if try
to replicate a certain color, it will never look the same. i
can't remember, but i feel i can talk cos my father has been
one who paints walls. and cos if you are put under lamps of
thousands of watts, the very same picture does not look the
same.

my boss the other day told me, "in the 70s, my teacher told
me that happens because color has no memory" and i told him
'it's like musical memory, it just involves another sense'.
it's totally upon ones perception
therefore
you just like it, or you don't.

word plays about chromatic scale being a musical term come
only in a second time, when nothing really matters anymore.


it becomes way more tricky in italian language, where 'feel'
translates to 'sentire', literally 'hear' so

non è quello che vedi, è quello che senti che ricordi

is not what you see, it's what you hear that you remember

peace



 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-11-13 14:44 [#02398238]
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so?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 14:44 [#02398239]
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so what?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-11-13 14:53 [#02398243]
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maybe it's just that italian is your first language (i'm
assuming, didn't realize before) but it's just really really
really hard to follow your arguments.

i'm guessing what you're getting at is that there is no
concrete color or music, only the way we perceive it, in
which case you're right and further you can expand that to
every sense. the hamburger you're eating will only taste
exactly like it does to you at that very moment - no other
being in history will be able to experience the exact same
phenomena as you just did.

...am i along the right lines here?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 14:56 [#02398245]
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exactly

im not sure about the hamburger implication. im well sure
when i talk about color and music.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-11-13 15:16 [#02398248]
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i feel like taste, and to an even further extent smell, are
even more variable person to person, event to event than
sound or color.

the crazy mind-blowing thing is that our brains can actually
manage to find the similarities within all the gibberish
and gobbledygook. insanely complex pattern recognizers we
are.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 15:23 [#02398249]
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insanely complex for realtively simple stuff i might add

have you ever noticed how lack of some sense reflects on a
person way to be, in a way more colorful way that we
imagine. for example: a person that lack touch will treat
with people like an elephant, a person that lacks hearing
will be less inclined to listen (by labial of course) ect

amazing

haha


 


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