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The out takes are good too |
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They bleep f**k but not shit What's interesting about the vastly more interesting interview with Ad Rock, rather than the puff piece about Reason, is that he gives all this history about working with all these different people and how they battled against the odds doing pause tapes and drum machines and hardware samplers, engineers getting Jimmy Page's sound, this whole movement and then... oh now I do it all on my own on my laptop and it practically plays itself... hmmmm. That's the future. |
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hahaha, its so funny cause its prolly true he likes a reason over all the gear stuff :) people that didnt grow up with gear dont know how costy and time consuming gear can be. dont know about quality in sound though, its a bit like old people being happy over cds or mp3s and throwing vinyl in the bin. i use reason too and had a fun afternoon in it. |
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Used to be you needed a nobleman to patronize you to secure the resources necessary to a big production - musicians, instruments, wine bottles, turkey legs, candelabras, powdered wigs, bustiers. Now I just download an torrent of Amadeus and it plays itself! |
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Ah come on, since forever you didn't need next to anything to make music, whether you're a traveling minstral or doing punk rawk like early Beastie Boys. What I mean is the rich tapestry he wove of the past compared to the footage of him sat there on his own at his netbook doing "a beat" and then fiddling with the delay... I don't really look forward to the Ad Rock solo album that eventually gets released after being tweaked to death in a home studio with no time limit or pressure. |
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A lot of my favorite music was done with a computer, usually with sampled or recorded source material I think, and I doubt you could do any of it as a minstrel or punk rocker. Burial for example, or the Ghost Box stuff, or Onra. |
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But yes, adrock's noodling on the laptop sounds like ass and I wouldn't listen to it unless some genius remixed it, pawel or wisp maybe. |
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really like reason |
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this is good stuff. the best thing about it is that reason is barely mentioned. and I do like reason. I think the "technology debate" is laughable. you use what ever you can get your hands on and feels right at the time. Ive been wanting to get a reel to reel machine for some time. |
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Isn't that the opposite of what you started saying? |
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I dont think so. what I mean is that its not like what you use will make the outcome better. reason is better at some things (sampling ease, sequencing), tape is better at others (timbre mostly). you can make interesting stuff with both. |
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I can make interesting stuff with both!? Is there anyway I could make beats using my Oboe? it's pink but it does the job. |
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slap a dogs fanny at 170 bpm with it. |
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I'll have to go through my back issues of Viz to find the "Teach your wife to play the pink oboe" advert. |
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Really enjoyed the out takes. Enthralling and interesting guy. I watched a documentary on BBC 4 a month or two ago about the end of disco and the beginnings of punk and hip-hop in New York called 'Once Upon A Time In New York'. It's not on iplayer any more but it was pretty good. Check it out if it's repeated. |
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I don't give a fuck about the "technology debate", I agree you can make music with whatever and "computer music" is as valid as "authentic acoustic strumming" or hitting a computer with a hammer to make a "beat" whatever... all I meant was that the back story about the Beastie Boys and the hardcore scene and hip-hop and all early career that involved a cast of thousands... it just set in stark relief the present of someone sat on their own with a laptop. |
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same thing applies to any analogue process really. when i was at uni studying design, we had huge silkscreen equipment and presses, which i used to visit at least twice a week, just to escape photoshop. the whole process took ages, but the results were great and there was a sense of accomplishment in a way that differs from doing some really technical artwork on a computer. it can also applies to film reel cutting, etc... eventually, everything is streamlined and sanitised, sometimes to the point of automation. it's not necessarily a bad thing, as long as you either respect or explore the avenues of past. |
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Yah, the outtakes were the best parts of the interview! I could just watch that... If the interviewer were fun and engaging, I bet there'd be hours worth of awesome shit to talk about... listen to old tapes and shit. |
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reason is the perfect tool for lazy people like me. i though that since reason 4 the high freqs sounded better. |
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i have something for u. u might not like it but i still have it. |
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i thought ad rock was dead |
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I don't like it. |
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I make no endorsement of this |
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"i thought ad rock was dead" HAHAHA..... Though Mike D looks like he's had too much crank in his time: |
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Although I've used and enjoyed reason, this is 100000x better due to being 80's tech: Also, while I'm in the mood.... have a bit of..... |
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~~~ ORCH5 4 LIFE ~~~ |
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Thankx! |
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