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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-04 19:08 [#02388668]
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You just don't get it, cachai?
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-05 17:40 [#02388753]
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@ kei9, you knob, you're obviously ignorant and very judgemental. Its called "panic jungle" not ""panik azid druman baiz wiked shit bro!". I wouldn't expect you to understand because you obviously dont understand jungle music.
My track isnt just some whistle, its a poignant shrine to all the people who have felt panic at some time in their life (real panic, such as German bombers dropping bombs on them). It embodies the totality of that experience and leaves one in no doubt as to the weight of the threat. Listen to it several times and it will grow on you and you'll start to understand. You have to feel it, you have to be it, and only then will you probably cry.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-08-05 23:15 [#02388788]
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You can't honestly be as ridiculous as you sound. I smell a troll.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-08-06 05:29 [#02388793]
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sadly taxi, i think you may be overestimating the general human populace here.
how long has it been since you interacted with high schoolers?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-08-06 06:39 [#02388794]
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Are we talking about high school girls or just general high schoolers?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-06 11:20 [#02388799]
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Absolutely brilliant thread, I laughed, I despaired, it was great! It has all the hallmarks of what makes xltronic so great, crap spam, verbose twattery, witty comebacks. Thanks to all who participated.
I liked larn sneaking in a little "all women are simple minded" jab as well. That cracked me up.
9/10
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2010-08-06 20:21 [#02388819]
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 05:16 [#02388853]
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If you really want to sell Panic Jungle as a genre in China, you should sample the deep thuds of the butt of a rifle from the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests for bassdrum sounds. I think they'd really dig that.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 05:22 [#02388854]
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I've took the time to listen to the track, in an unprecedented move being lauded by the press as being "edgy and innovative." Panic Jungle is actually jungle with an air-raid siren and the words "this is a warning, warning, warning."
I still think my idea is better.
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-07 15:47 [#02388895]
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Its not just jungle with an air-raid siren and the words "this is a warning, warning, warning." Its so much more, I have samples of Kim Jong Il warning the west of Nuclear war, followed by the sound of a nuclear explosion behind General Levy's "Jungle is Massive". The whole ambience of panic jungle represents chaos and is symbolic of the noise and fury of humanity, in addition to the madness.
I have sound samples of the twin towers collapsing and Osama Bin Laden's voice weaved throughout Uk Apache and Shy FX's "Original Nuttah" straight after the intro where he says "Alrigh' mate, 'ow ya doin' mate?".
Dont criticise what you dont understand. You lot may make music which is crap, but unless it is highly expressional of a theme, issue or experience, its meaningless.
Tell you what, you'll all be laughing on the other sides of your faces when I have skibadee mc'ing for me and aphex twin is ringing me up to apologise for his non contribution. This is really going somewhere.
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j4ck
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-07 15:55 [#02388896]
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"music which is crap, but unless it is highly expressional of
a theme, issue or experience, its meaningless"
and you make 'dance music'. fucking nob.
learn to paint your own picture in your head with what you hear. go put a coldplay cd on for meaning pffffft
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-08-07 16:23 [#02388900]
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People generally don't like being reminded they are doomed when they are trying to party.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 16:23 [#02388901]
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So I wasn't half wrong with my Tiananmen Square bit.
I don't even know who Shy FX, Skibadee or Aphex Twin are, but I know I don't like it.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 16:26 [#02388902]
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Apocalyptic Rave.
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-07 16:28 [#02388903]
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Dance music, where'd you get that idea from you cretin! Panic Jungle is a profound genre. Hearing Osama Bin Laden's voice and the rumble of the World Trade Centre collapsing straight after a colloquially benevolent greeting is bringing two opposing sentiments together into one place which ultimately brings pleasure to people.
I've played it to hot chicks and its made them cry, so dont tell me about dance music. Its nothing more than insolent noise designed for people who smoke drug, have no substantial thought processes, are moronic, and who have no concept of the words "think" and "do".
This place has an extreme abundance of philistines and ignoramuses.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 16:31 [#02388904]
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I've made hot chicks cry and smoked drug, we've all been there. Insolent Noise sounds like a better genre than Panic Jungle. How about Bemused Skiffle or Alert Two-Step.
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-07 16:34 [#02388905]
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@ Descent, exactly man, you can do anything you want to. Imagine using notes and tones which denote confusion, but use traditional skiffle construction. That'd be wicked!!
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 16:44 [#02388906]
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You're not a good dupe.
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-07 16:53 [#02388908]
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Thats actually quite hurtful, you just assume I'm a dupe because, for some unknown reason, you dont think panic jungle has potential. It takes great vision to digress from pop genres and be bold and new. I guess you guys just dont see the potential. Ah well, I'll just carry on and forget about the support of this community.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 17:04 [#02388909]
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If I wanted to hear sirens during jungle music, I'd listen to a recording of a police crackdown on a field race.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-07 17:04 [#02388910]
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Because those runners can get out of hand quickly.
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khrimson
from the fridge on 2010-08-07 17:12 [#02388912]
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you are being trolled
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-07 18:51 [#02388924]
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Whos trolling me?
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-08-07 18:58 [#02388926]
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National Geographic and Discovery Channel have been doing panic jungle for ages-- literally. Like, in a fucking jungle, and there is a rodent running for its life- PANICKING FOR REAL- and then the snake eats it.
THAT, is panic jungle. If The Winstons were fortunate enough to have a talented drummer to bust out a drum solo as awesome as the amen, that's not jungle-- that's education (self or not).
If you REALLY wanted someone to experience panic jungle, just drop them in a proper jungle with a pack of starving wild boars- fuuuck--- they will panic.
In the jungle.
No time for dyancin'.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2010-08-07 20:30 [#02388941]
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Just get out of here and we'll completely forget about you. You'll have fun with promoting your new sound, these people will not give a shit if you DJ'd next to Richard, nobody gets hurt and everybody moves on and has fun. No need to tell people they 'just don't understand your shit' when you have no clue who you're talking to. This is our way to tell people we don't like their music man.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-08-07 20:43 [#02388942]
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these guys i was doing lights for last night (the flying skulls) had a pad with an air raid siren on it. does this make them panic glitch? or do they need more "terrifying" and "panic inducing" sounds?
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-08-07 22:27 [#02388954]
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...however, according to ATR: "riot sounds from a ghetto blaster produce riots", so maybe it might all work.
Though for some reason a lot of shit nowadays is "boring sounds produce boredom" for me.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2010-08-09 19:44 [#02389119]
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Well that's your own problem :)
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-08-11 17:30 [#02389291]
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Yes. Yes, it is.
Though on weed or e, everything can be good, but... you know. There's a balance. ...somewhere.
Somewhere, there's a balance.
Cuz in all sincerity, almsot every music is absolutely incredible, even the shitty shit. Just the ability to perceive sound is a wondrous miracle of consciousness.
So "interesting" isn't really an issue of inherent quality; but rather an issue of one's arbitrary interest-tolerence.
Though interest-tolerence is "intentionally" pushed high within people, so that they don't sit around and look at the air all day long and just die from malnourishment; cuz air is more interesting than food, etc.
But technology has pretty much pushed everything to the limits of practical imagination, so fucking everyone is spoiled. Aaaaand then comes the need for "balance". Where does one draw the line of interest-tolerence?
I keep my interest-tolerence at a relatively-near-core level, so I'm always looking at everything with my mouth open and pissing my pants and shit... but with music, it's not that a lot of new shit isn't "interesting", it's just that "a lot" is contrived or super derivative.
Like at least 60% of new music I try to listen to (online) sounds like sp/afx/vs tribute music, which is like... what the hell happened to the concept of personal style and character?
Like Ed DMX for example- actual music aside, it's so apparent that he's fucking obsessed with the 80's and shit, and THAT is interesting character. And that character flavor flows through his music, despite it being taken from people of the past. So it gives his choonz a flavor that tastes like his, even though it superficially isn't.
I just want nice/fun/new/interesting character in music... I miss it so!
A lot of times some n00b will post his tracks, and then 20 people will post how much he sucks ballz. But I often hear a rawness and untrained hand that's frantically grasping within himself to find an identity, and that is so fresh and actually awesome.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-08-11 17:45 [#02389298]
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that
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2010-08-11 23:34 [#02389348]
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At least you get it, not unlike at least 90% of the people on this board.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-08-11 23:44 [#02389349]
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1 on 1 in a public forum; address the character you are talking to and their music separately.
junglist_bob comes across as an arrogant twit, so people have every right to treat him as such if thats their choice. If his music sounds ridiculous then people have every right to describe it as such, and provide their own reasons to do so.
I won't go to a website I don't trust, and download something based off the suggestion of someone I have never talked to before. My criticism of him not using a good website to facilitate the listening of his music stands.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-11 23:46 [#02389351]
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Music is terrible, all in all. I don't listen to any.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2010-08-12 02:26 [#02389365]
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jnasato (Jason) is junglist_job.
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-12 07:49 [#02389381]
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@ taxidermist. I was unaware of other sites other than file hosting ones. Youtube and that cloud thingy whatever will have my other panic jungle tracks in due course. Until then, you'll have to wait. Sorry if the wait is a bit long, but it'll be worth it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-08-12 10:29 [#02389389]
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Soundcloud is the best IMO. People can place feedback for your music, even at specific parts. Its very simple and practical, and gives you some good raw data insofar as to listening trends.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2010-08-12 12:33 [#02389394]
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Oh is he? If he is, i'm getting really really tired of dupes.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-12 12:37 [#02389397]
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I thought I was your dupe.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-12 16:16 [#02389405]
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i like the way the whistle stops just at the right point, gosh this guy is good! those sirens really stir something inside, so chilling and haunting, my Grandad would of liked this if he had smoked drug in his rusty old pipe... it also reminds me of walking home from school, the siren were a warning; a dangerous mental patient had escaped from St Crispins hospital, made the walk home more interesting..
we need to keep things moving forward man, we need to mix some Samba into this, shit man this is the future!! i can hear this mang!
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-12 16:17 [#02389406]
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i am back online now, got a legit connection not a hijacked one anymore
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-08-12 21:00 [#02389415]
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i don't listen to random pricks posting music on forums unless
A) it's a kind of music i know i like (like this) B) the author is smart enough to hide his prickness behind a screen, appearing to be a good person
C) im bored
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khrimson
from the fridge on 2010-08-12 23:32 [#02389419]
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C) bored
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-08-12 23:37 [#02389420]
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WICKED MANIII
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-13 02:54 [#02389430]
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I can't stand people like you who can't appreciate good Samba music, especially when there is a chance to mix it with Jungle. time to move things forward matey
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-08-13 03:04 [#02389431]
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wat??
go appreciate samba at 4 in the morning with yr wife!!!!
lol's
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yoyoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2010-08-13 11:12 [#02389435]
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panic jungle dansband music
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-08-13 17:05 [#02389441]
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haha- we are all just Richard James talking to himself on his home laptop with no internet connection.
As for sirens... Hawaii tests their tsunami/hazard-warning sirens at the beginning of every month. I didn't know that, so when I first heard it, I though we were being attacked and shit!!! Fucking loud sirens are actually quite... alarming.
And I recently moved to a place with a clear view of Pearl Harbor, so when viewing the sight and being American-born-Japanese, I dunno whether to cry or give myself high fives.
Or wank it hard.
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junglist_job
from United Kingdom on 2010-08-13 23:11 [#02389520]
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@ jnasato, cheers man, you clearly get it. Your analysis illustrates perfectly my goal and the wider meaning behind my music. I've sold out to pubs who have upward of 20 or 30 clients in there on Friday and Saturday nights and the council hired me to support another act at my local venue, so those people obviously see what you see too.
@ larn, I never thought of samba, but I've made a track incorporating samba with a sample associated with jungle. I am diversifying with samba. I've given it a try (on soundcloud).
Panic junba
I feel it reflects perfectly the sound and the fury of post industrial revolution life and gives us a vision of shallow futurism. That is enough to panic on its own. Anyway, enjoy my wicked mix.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-08-14 13:33 [#02389549]
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Beautiful.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2010-08-16 00:57 [#02389680]
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