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Had the name way before 4chan existed. Only heard about it a few years ago. Monoid- If you have that great understanding it's just a matter of articulating it well enough, in a way that can provide some leverage to the audience. Picking the right subject at decisive times etc. Stop thinking things over and just give shit a try, then pick up the pieces and do better, rinse repeat. I'm not deluded that life is shit. Life is fucking great. I don't give a shit whether my work ethic is western, or if you think it's all that or not. I think it's a bullet proof way of approaching problems like the ones you seem to have. Then there's how well I'm understanding you but that's another issue. In fact just the other day I saw this news bit where Stephen Hawking says the same thing. Life is empty without work, or something to that effect. Time for me to grow up and say goodbye. Well, ok then "gramps". Just calling it as I see it. You start these nonsense topics in an open forum with the same problem statement in em - what do you expect from readers? And I stand by what I said.. I don't know how you expect me to change POV unless you provide some reason. Your last post reads like a software generated horoscope profile. |
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In fact I don't think the "work" ethic I'm suggesting is specifically western at all. It's in any human's blood to be motivated to do something and then satisfy that. |
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I expect a nice conversation and lots of entertainment, which i value a lot. I actually agree with you, work makes us human, but isn't it sad that only a few people are destinated to do great things, and the rest are just avarage losers? I don't understand how work or motivation can be seen as a fountaine of joy, rather than depression |
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I don't agree because I don't think destiny is one factor for success. Its those people who decide do things they want. You can drink beer and do stuff you want or you can read book etc its your choose. |
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Probability for success is proportional to environmental conditions (culture, historical situation, economics, communication, relations), genetic properties (charisma, physical appearance, brain performance, resistance for diseases etc) and talent. So again there is factors independent of choice. Some of conditions is influenced by choice, this means that everyone of us is potentially enstein if there is no other conditions equal to zero. |
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I did not talk about destiny |
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Maybe get in something like counseling after you get out of your slump? You could act from first hand experience, that's always a prime asset. I don't agree that only few people are destined to do great things. I don't mean to absolutely say it's relative, but it must be put in the perspective I suggested above. See Jospeh Campbell's writings for a good example of everyone's personal life adventure. Even from a very basic down to earth approach it's pretty obvious: what is great today is minor tomorrow. What's great to someone is meaningless to someone else. There are some things that are clearly more great than others.. Easy examples are historically very "notable" people like Howard Hughes or Einstein. But those people are notable because they were larger than life in some way or ways.. And it's possible for everyone to be larger than life in their own way. And that's not a sine qua non of a happy life. You can be happy living as a beggar, see eastern trends like you find in India or (IIRC) Buddhist tradition. I don't agree that the rest can be resumed to be just average losers. Even though I see what you mean and I agree with it, it's not all there is. There is that potential for greatness in their own way in everyone.. Only it doesn't come out at full blast for most people. And either way, the major point in this respect that I disagree with is that whether they "actualize" their potential or not, isn't what decides whether they're losers or worthy of esteem or not... I don't think that's a useful or accurate model of people, of worth. Work and motivation aren't a source of joy, they're the path to joy.. Terrible analogy (Im short on time) but that's the gist of it. You don't live to work but work to live (professional employment), and you don't obsess about maintaining yourself (e.g. with hobbies) but simply act as feels right. Make choices naturally without complexes. |
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Work being depressing sounds like conflict between want and need. You want to be doing something else (whatever would actually please you) but some mechanical moral sense throws cold water on that desire because it's "wrong". What I see most people doing wrong, and maybe what you're doing too - it's consistent with what you've described so far, is chastising themselves over it. That feeling is just an instinctive reaction.. Like a "low fuel" light or whatever other warning mechanism. Like pain. Pain is just a sensation. It's not a sophisticated moral system. You acknowledge it and move on. Just like a pilot in his cockpit gets some warning squawks and once they're acknowledged and he's updated his understanding of the situation, he shuts off the squawks. What people ought to do instead of getting trapped in that chastising spiral is to acknowledge (no word will be right to describe it, it's not a formal thought that everyone acts out the same way) what's wrong and then move on. Problem > Solution. Understand the problem > A solution will be immediately apparent, the more you've clearly and accurately defined the problem. Then to remedy the "problem" situation.. Say, "I'm starved for pussy and good convo", you think of what could bring you from A to B, from Problem to Solution to Resolution, and get it done... Which is pretty much the textbook definition of "work". If you're way down near rock bottom it's probably pretty hard to materialize clear "problem statements" from that mist of blues, but if you make reasonably minimal efforts to single out discrete things you don't like and would like to change, and e.g. jot em down as a list, it might be easier to deal with em that way, one by one, once you have an explicit list. And again you can't do this while thinking about thinking about thinking about doing stuff. That overhead'll choke your brains and motivation to a standstill. Don't focus on what you don't want, just set an ultimate goal or pick a general d |
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or pick a general direction and go with the flow. |
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Yah, a couple months ago I came upon the realization of a "get everything done" mode, which appeared by doing the small things that I sometimes make notes about to do later. There's always a million things that are on some "life waiting list", so if one REALLY wanted to get (back) on track, it's most efficient to be in the super "get everything done mode". No delay between realization of necessity and action! Just keep doing what needs to be done... First, prioritize everything and create a hierarchy for action, then just get into action and don't stop until like 6 months later. Minimal television/internet-- maximum effective force. Don't go off track with prolonged entertainment. It's incredible how much potential for change is in 24 hours!!! Years before, the precursor to that mode, was my "robot mode" or "RPG mode", which is essentially the same thing, but emphasizing brute force instead of efficient time management (but the ends being the same). "RPG" as in "role playing game", cuz if life was a video game and one advanced the "work" up 500 points, the pain meter would also go up. But since it's just a game, most would endure much more pain than when having to actually experience it, which allows for adding a much higher workload. But anyway... all that tv and internet and eating time... all time that can be used to make shit happen. Of course, being truly "happy" is such a difficult thing, as one really needs to know themselves. Like if some super stoner wants to just smoke up all day forever- if he REALLY wants to do that without being homeless- then he has to face the pain of working to be able to afford an infinite stash. If the pains of actualizing one's hopes/dreams/wants aren't gone through, then one must experience the much greater pain of being generally unhappy. So really... attaining what one thinks will make them happy, is usually gonna take immense focus. That being said, it's incredible how much better life is with a lover/partne |
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u ever listen to tool? lsd music?? |
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Sheesh. Even I'm sick of this guy now. |
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Even I'm DUBturbo now. |
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