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i'm sure he uses the ohm boyz delay then lol |
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if he namedrops his ftp-clients, he should also mention what kind of router and isp lol |
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lol |
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His chair looks nice. I've been tempted to splash some cash on a good, work chair (my current one is awesome, but the leather is quite literally falling to bits) but £500 is a lot of money to plant your ass into. Hmm. |
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my old work had them and they are terrific chairs but £500 - fuck. |
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what shoelaces does he use? |
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nice chair |
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sweet chair and ftp client combo |
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the website should auto-link those highlighted items to amazon.com |
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I remember asking him about his setup 8 years ago and getting some smarmy "trade secret" reply. He mustn't be getting much attention these days. |
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Care to elaborate? Trade secret? I was probably more embarrassed about my setup back then than anything else. I <3 my chair. |
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A good chair is an extremely important addition to any studio. I am kind of proud of mine. I bought it from a thrift store, it cost me $25, and I have never found a more comfortable chair. Need to replace it soon, tho :( |
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I have a really nice blue suede chair, it's comfy but the sad part is i'm sitting in front of an empty desk as i sold all of my equipment. This was to fund my china adventures and get married So i basicaly traded my music gear for a wife... damn what did i do? :( |
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my chair is shit. it makes me slouch into stupid shapes in order to get comfortable |
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people will spend $500 on chairs and $1000s on speakers and yet wont do shit for room treatments/acoustics/absorption to stop comb filtering. |
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im going to make a full thread/discussion on it soon, but what's with studio people/producers making music in rooms with crappy acoustics? you dont need some wicked studio .. but there's tons of DIY stuff out there you can do on the cheap to get a better flat response out of your room. and it fucking makes shitty speakers sound amazing - especially taming the first/early reflection points. cant even tell you how much crisp/clearer analords are when the room is made a little dead. |
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please make a thread about it |
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who says we can't/aren't doing that |
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Absolutely. I didn't include it in my interview because it's a given if you're at all interested in getting the most from your gear. Can't make sound EQ judgements if you can't hear it properly. I've made up 18 2'x4'x4" acoustic panels to place around the room; makes an incredible difference. a great DIY guide to making cheap, effective panels. |
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hell yeah. i dont know why room treatments get no love / discussion / etc... fairly cheap, easy, and make a world of a difference. next up, some qrd diffusers! |
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csl, check out gearslutz.com forum - crazy cool d00ds/diy stuff. *(studio building / bass traps) sub-forums. |
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bass traps? |
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yes. unless you like having massive peaks/nulls in your room. i have a 150hz peak that is driving me crazy that i'm having a hard time sorting out no mic, so doing it by ear...and no cloud traps just yet |
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I know someone who has spent most of their gear budget on treatment. I don't think its necessarily ignored, per se, but its definitely the least sexy part of a studio. |
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I'd recommend spending money on the gear first and recording whatever sounds good in your room. If you can hear it, the information is there. Spend some money on getting it mastered properly and they'll compensate for the crappy sound of your room. Then start getting anal on the sound of your room. It's like fannying around fine tuning a hi hat for 3 hours etc. Make the track while it's hot and get all focused on everything being just so once you've got something worth the effort. It's like the old thing of audiophiles listening to the speakers and not the music. |
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Hi, I like to play around with Logic and don't make anything worth sharing but I've been giving some thought to getting serious about learning all I can to improve my mixes and just wanted to say that this seems like excellent advice. |
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using a local rec studio is a good idea, you can also learn a thing or two |
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hello ! |
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What shoelaces do you use? |
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jivver, for once i disagree. fixing your room (exception - unless your room is a square small box) is relatively cheap to do with DIY absorption not to mention, when you buy a mic and start taking room measurements and experimenting and doing *cheap* absorption ---- i feel you are accelerating your understanding in acoustics to a degree far finer than most would normally subject themselves to. why spend an extra $1000usd on speakers when you can spend half that on your room? not to mention, the wholy DIY mentality and trial by error and understanding your room by trial+error is part of the whole learning process... i think in the long run, it is far more rewarding .. no ? |
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jivver, i know your knowledge/experience preceeds your comments, but "If you can hear it, the information is there" ... the human ear is the most easily tricked of all ... simple absorption panels at early/first reflection points can easily cure a host of problems ... especially for someone working with dynamic stereo imagine, no ? |
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"It's like fannying around fine tuning a hi hat for 3 hours etc. Make the track while it's hot and get all focused on everything being just so once you've got something worth the effort. It's like the old thing of audiophiles listening to the speakers and not the music. " no one is saying get all obsessed with your room. but tossing (literally ... THROWING) mineral wool/rockwool/fiberglass into a corner will make large gains in taming room modes/peaks/etc.... that is simple fact. you dont have to obsess to install a $20 fiberglass panel at an early reflection point .... room treatment is by far the cheapest way to hear your music. the mere fact that it can be done cheaply DIY only adds to the effect....the user (by doing it do-it-yourself) does one of a few things ... 1) learns about acoustics in the process, 2) learns room fundamentals 3) learns about their room and puts time and energy into their room by getting the user active into making an understanding of why their room sounds poorly and how to make it better (at a relatively cheap cost via DIY) is really something to be proud of. audiophiles can brag about spending the big bucks, but building your own superchucks or bass traps at a ridiculously cheap cost is truly impressive for the end user. |
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you can treat your room, but paying out for some decent nearfield monitors should be good enough man |
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that's completely false. nice try, tho ... |
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ha hanal was giving me shit about lack of importance on room treatment talking how he only listenings to old 80s hip hop it all mattesr. |
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and quite a baffon any human is who tries to pretend his hearing is somewhat without the lacking of everyday problems. why is the cheapest link in the chain often regarded as snake oil?? |
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music first room after that is all |
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you realize garbage in garbage out, no ? |
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Yep, I'm all over that forum with my morning coffee. Some passionate, clever folks on there. |
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all i realise is that even the worst music in the world still sounds like the worst music in the world, whether its in a perfectly created monitoring room or in a bathtub. loads of producers have crappy monitors/setups but still make amazing music. i'm with jivver - many audiophiles get too obsessed with the speakers/room and listen to that more than the music itself. if you have both equally good, then it's awesome of course. |
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it's also another reason i prefer headphone listening over speakers most of the time - less arsing around with placement and irate neighbours. |
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I think elusive means: if you're gonna improve your home studio, start with the cheap DIY fixing your room stuff. |
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I agree with everyone in here, as usual. With my coffee, cheers! |
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I agree with Elusive to an extent but that's like number 5 on the list to tick. I wouldn't enjoy the pure excellence of the bass tones on a five hour DJ set from Dane Bowers, or an accomplished mix of Jordans top ten favourite audio cuddles. |
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Its true that good music is good music and bad music is bad music and everything in between, regardless of monitoring situation. But music with bad mastering is still music with bad mastering, regardless of how good it is, and its much more enjoyable when music your listening to has passable to good mastering. I had one song I was really happy with, and I was showing it to someone in their bedroom, and their room seemed to amplify certain bass frequencies making them comb. If I had mastered it in a better environment than I did that probably wouldn't have happened, and I would have been a lot less embarrassed. I think a lot of those musicians that you are talking about do end up getting additional help with their mixes before it gets published or put online. |
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Who is this end user your referring to? If your talking about the listener, the room treatment you use is the last thing they should notice. If they can tell what you have done, then you have done something horribly, horribly wrong. |
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Before people get too much further into this thread, I suggest everyone read the following article on CDM, and watch the first half of the video. Its a bit of a long winded rant, but I think its well worth it. The video is fantastic (altho I would ignore the last half where he just does a bunch of A/B'ing cheesy music). |
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yeah, thats my whole point. write the music, make it sound good in your room, then send it to be mastered properly so it sounds good in all rooms. |
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But in acoustically treating your room, making it sound good in your room will generally make it sound good in most rooms. This is the point -- you'll hear less of your room colouring the sound, and more of the music directly coming out of your monitors. The mastering engineer will then not have to work so hard reversing what you may have done in order for the music to sound good in your own room. e.g. if you've compensated for a huge bass null in your room with a huge boost, then the ME will have to cut, which may then affect the punch of the kick etc. It becomes too much of a compromise. This is really one of those areas where you end up preaching to the converted, as you don't know what you're missing until you treat your room. |
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