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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 09:32 [#00161966]
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Did any of you Brits see the documentary on Factory Records on C4 last night? Shaun Rhyder is so fucked now.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:08 [#00161987]
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mornin all-i didnt-but he's always been fucked. ever since he gave up the skag and the crack. see? hard hard drugs aint so bad. full of vitamins and minerals and sweetex and ratpoison and anything else thats powdery and white.
ps, is that sinbad from brookie having a 'tete a tete' with harold bishop? C.O.O.L.!!
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:11 [#00161988]
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It looked like he had mild form of parkinsons.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:12 [#00161989]
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Ken: nah man, he was soooo fucked. Way more fucked than I've ever seen him before. His face and neck were really puffed up. He was talking like Ali too.
The pic was actually Lou and Harold. I'm surprised you could make it out.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:17 [#00161994]
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superior vision due to carrot juice..
man thats a shame. ever since he got way into the spliffs, guiness, hargan daas and body building supplements (no joke) . i know he looked a bit stoned on the old 'step on' and 'kinky afro' vids and stuff, but now its ike lookin at two diff people. how old is he now? 40 ish? looks a lot older.....as well as larger.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:23 [#00161997]
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He was taking body building supplements? What the hell for?
I've seen him before and he could be quite sharp, but last night he was gone.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:31 [#00162004]
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true story-i read an interview with him in Q or select bout' ten years ago or when ever the first black grape album came out-he was sat in a curry house with a huge balti in front of him and several pints of guiness-he was saying that he had got really into haagan daas when coming off the crack and had started taking body buiding supplement because he'd weanted to get in shape-he assumed that by taking it he'd get fit-didnt realise you had to exercise at the sam time. true story. there was a photo of him sat on the toilet in a cubicle smoking a huge spliff with a pint of guiness in his hand. he looked all chubby, like moley from 'wind in the willows'.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:34 [#00162007]
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He looks fucking awful. I can't believe he forgot the exercise part of the equation.
I saw him on Jo Whiley's crap TV show a few years ago. He was on about how he and a mate climbed on the roof of a venue that Kate Bush was playing and saw her go outside for a fag. He said she smoke about "ten fags in a row the fuckin' pig. Put me right off her".
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:37 [#00162008]
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he's great shaun ryder. apparently he plays his dad in the '24 hr party people' film.
i saw an old happy monday photo of him sat on a stage (again smoking a huge joint) with bez-and in the background was his dad, ravin' with a huge viking helmet on-ripped to his tits. absolutely fucking textbook.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:41 [#00162010]
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Those people seem untouchable. People like Keith Richards and Rhyder who do so many drugs and seem to scrape through ok. Though judging by last night Rhyder might be another casualty.
Bez sounded so thick: "Errrr, what's that word? Yeah stalking. We was stalking Factory Records"
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:05 [#00162045]
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haha!! what ever happened to ryders 'acting' career??? and didnt bez do a bit of porridge for sellin e's after the mondays split??? i also remember a story bout shaun being kicked out by his missus for because he kept breaking her hoover for a laugh...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:14 [#00162053]
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Didn't he try to kill her too?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:15 [#00162055]
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nah-you're thinking of james brown...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:17 [#00162059]
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I may be getting mixed up. Ozzy tried it too.
He was married to Donovan's daughter right?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:23 [#00162064]
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yeah-that rings a bell. i remember reading once as well that he phoned up tony wilson when the mondays were in jamaicai recording 'yes please' saying that he had the master tapes and he was going to destroy them if wilson didnt forward some money for crack'....i hope he doesnt just fade into oblivion..maybe after the disaster that was 'stupid stupid stupid' hell return eh?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:29 [#00162073]
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Yeah they got £50 for the tapes which had no vocal tracks on ha,ha.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:52 [#00162103]
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50 quid? was that all wilson sent them? i still quite like 'yes please'-its a good album.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:55 [#00162110]
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I've only gor Thrills, Pills and Bellyaches.
Black Grape's first record was cool.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 12:59 [#00162232]
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theres quite a good interview with tony wilson in this weeks big issue-good review of the film as well, although it does mention that steve coogan does a bit of an alan patridge when being wilson-suprise suprise. also shows ian curtis hanging himself as well. mmmnnn.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 13:04 [#00162243]
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Steve Coogan, good as he is, is a bit of a one trick pony. He always seems to slip into the man Partridge.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 13:08 [#00162252]
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true true. he did a series a while back didnt he? forget what it was called -had six difference characters...coogans run?
i liked partridge on 'on the hour' radio show, he had more of a nervous paranoid side-still cockey but you could imagine him going home and just crying all night.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 13:39 [#00162308]
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The best Happy Mondays record is without doubt "24 Hour Party People....". It was produced by former Velvet Undergrounder, John Cale... I luv it!
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 13:45 [#00162316]
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lazyitis off bummed. thats the one i have found memories of. and the first track off side two of pills n thrills...forget what its called...
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 15:05 [#00162488]
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Did they cover any Durutti Column in this Factorymentary?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 15:10 [#00162494]
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No, no Durritti Column.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 15:16 [#00162502]
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theres a certain ratio comp of old rarities been re-released....mmmnnnn
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 15:50 [#00162559]
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Thats a SHAME! The Durutties were one of the truly GREAT bands on Factory! They were postrockin' even long before the stupid term "postrock" was invented...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 15:55 [#00162565]
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erm...joy division?? they were the trully great bands on factory thankyou very much.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 15:55 [#00162567]
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i meant 'band' damn these busy fingers of mine...
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 16:40 [#00162638]
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Sure, I love Joy Division, but I feel that Durutti Column is one of the more underrated bands on Factory! They have had a much more important influence on current "independent" music than many, many other bands an should at least be given some of the credit for this. Hell, I only discovered the Durutties a few years ago and I was shocked at how I could have missed out on a band with so much influence on the music I listened to then and still listen to today.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 16:43 [#00162643]
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oh, alright then. for a minute there i thought youd overlooked the division! :)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 16:45 [#00162647]
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DC ... thats Vini Rilly isn't it?...he's is one brilliant guitarist and songwriter...
Pity he's not better know... probably most famous for that album he did with Morrissey...
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 17:29 [#00162678]
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Yeah, thats him! I did not like that album he did with Morrisey, tho...
His guitar is divine! Have you heard how I don't think Disco Inferno (Che Records, Rough Trade Records) would have their brilliant guitar-sound if it wasnt for Vinni...
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