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this was only the beginning of course on the 20th of may there is an event on Facebook called 'Draw Mohammed Day'. Anyone can participate, but you can also bend over backwards and let these savage muslims walk all over you. Thoughts? |
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So he showed a video containing an image of two guys kissing and got attacked? Mate. You go into your local pub and show people a picture of two guys kissing, you'll get slaughtered. Also, did you see how badly messed up Electric Six got at that one gig? They came out to 'Gay Bar' and got pelted with eggs. If you attack someone's faith on that level you're going to get attacked right back. What possessed this guy to be such a mug? Do you have any idea how much shit they have had to take off us lot? He knew this was going to happen. I find this more disgusting than homophobia itself. I bet that guy never has to work a day in his life just by making shit movies like that. |
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except this wasn't in a pub, it was a unitersity lecture. |
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Only if the pubs you frequent are run by landlords who support the BNP and plaster their walls in flags of England. Once again, muslims get crazy over a silly, stupid little video thats whole purpose is to make them angry. Troll successful! We (supposedly) live in a secular, free-speaking society. Faith deserves to be ridiculed just as much as anything else in the world. In fact, if religious nuts can't handle juvenline jibes against their god, then their faith must be pretty shakey to start with. Every religion is retarded. Islam is just a little more special than the rest. |
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Do you think that homophobia doesn't exist in universities? Homophobia is not limited to supporters of the BNP. How does being loyal to queen and country make you racist/homophobic?! This is not a 'stupid little video', if you believed in anything you would see that. But you don't. We live in a supposedly civilised society where one has the decency to keep ones mouth shut to avoid angering people. Freedom of speech is a theory that doesn't work in practice. (Go run though Harlem shouting the N word.) Religion is not 'retarded' any more then a complete disregard of faith is. It's nice to see we have so many racists on here. Not all Muslims are like this and for you to attack them all because of the action of a few is distinctly myopic at best. |
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from the devil's advocate point of view: there were actually children in the audience, so the clip was a bit too much for the context. i wonder whether the premisses of the whole event were clear to the audience. i mean, you probably wouldn't want to bring your kids to an event where clips like that would be showed. |
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(Go run though Harlem shouting the N word.) Nigga, please. |
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''If you attack someone's faith on that level you're going to get attacked right back.'' you probably fail to see that this is exactly the sort of bizarre logic that islam thrives on. Threatening physical violence to suppress voiced opinions, insulting or not, can never be acceptable in a free society, yet many people, amazingly and sadly, have been beaten to death with the idea that we should at all times respect peoples' religions, even if those religions are hateful, oppressive and barbaric. Brisk: spot-on. |
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the judjment you have of all things life is related to your experience and your experience only. the representation of them is your own drawing, maybe many people share your vision about something but there are many people that doesn't, go to the root of your informations and judje the way they have come instead |
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islam is not a race you imbecile. I can disrespect anyone's beliefs without being a racist or a bigot. does threatening to murder people over cartoons fit your definition of decency? 'shut up or we will shut you up' ? 'convert or be converted'? how you are able to stick up for these crazed lunatics is absolutely beyond me. |
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No such thing as homophobia |
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It's less bizarre logic and more truth, but you can't see that. If someone attacks you do you sit there and take it? No, you have a go right back. If someone attacks you so deeply that it makes you sick, perhaps by being graphic about your girlfriend maybe you'd pick up a chair. You've just never been in a position to test this so you can't imagine it. Had you been in such a position you would feel more empathy towards the situation. It may not be acceptable but in a moment of weakness you will see. Have you never been roused such that you imagined punching the 'bullock of the bar' so to speak? Here we have people who have been on the poor end of western expansion, being shown a video in the poorest of tastes, produced by an f-grade artist who has probably never worked a day in his life. Their taxes fund morons like this! Doesn't it make you angry to think that your tax pays for art grants that involve some moron shitting on a plate? And yet you pour your energy into spreading racial hate as appose to continuing your self presumed enlightened view of life. Look at the comments on you tube. Do you see those western reactions to that video? How is their hate any different to the hate in the video? It's a paradoxical joke! Can't you see??? We are all the same! People have been beaten to death for being gay! Oh but /that/ doesn't matter... |
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there was an interesting article this weekend in a newspaper about some french koran-scientist doing research to the origins of the texts in the koran. it was pretty interesting to read that although the koran is taught to be the perfect representation of the word of mohammed (in all its perfectness, and what not), there are actually different versions with, in some cases, radically different meanings. islamists often neglect the fact that the koran is, just like the bible, a collection of interpretations of reinterpretations of different historical texts. it's important to note the scientist hasn't met much aggressiveness from muslim-society. which does tell something, i guess. these people, who are brainwashed into believe the koran is perfect (and some of them can easily turn violent when the word of the koran is put into doubt), are still open to rational science. this kind of science is going to be way more fruitful than any of these pseudo intellectual clips showing gay muslim wearing mohammed masks with the idea of defending freedom of speech. this whole freedom of speech thing is a never ending fight. |
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Those are extremists, not Muslims you pillock. If a Muslim kills someone they are sent to hell. But when people see this they hate all Muslims equally. It's terrible. There is a whole lot of wrong going on here and I don't support any of it. |
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I never once came across any homophobics whilst I was at uni. This is in Bradford too, which is a working class town. On the contrary, the people on my course were smart, caring people for the most part and we had a very mixed ehtnic demographic. In fact, at least 1/3rd were muslims and all of them were sensible and against any kind of religious-based violence. The video was stupid. In fact, I pissed myself immediately after it started because it was so juvenile and ridiculous. It was the moving image equivalent of a fart joke. I'm sure Lars Vilks knew this when he made it and the whole point is that something so absurd is taken as a huge insult by radical muslims to the point where they're willing to physically hurt others. Censorship for something so trivial is wrong. "Pornography" as they call it is not illegal in Sweden as far as I know and they were completely just in showing the film. I felt sorry for the people with children in the audience having to witness such barbarianism over something so absurd. Though it's not without precedence, so the parents should have known what to expect anyway I suppose... Anyway I digress. Yes, freedom of speech is only as good as the thing you're trying to say in the first place, but there is NEVER justification for violence as a result of religion. Never, ever. |
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Well at the very least this has been a very interesting discussion. Normally I don't give a fuck about anything other than drinking tea, working out and watching Samurai Pizza Cats. Bravo. |
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Yes, but theres a pretty big difference between some guy talking shit about your girlfriend standing in front of you and someone making a shitty little film about a supposed prophet who lived 1500 years ago that they have never even met and is probably complete bullshit anyway. |
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ADMIRAL ACKBAR! ADMIRAL ACKBAR! |
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darth vader? is that you? |
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every morron who attacks oneother person for nudity should be shot to the moon. |
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Oh and some of my best friends are Christians. They've never once tried to force me to believe in something or threaten violence, nor did they take offense when I questioned their belief. Instead, they chose to have an adult debate explaining exactly why they believed in God and why He makes their life better. Passive religion which genuinely helps makes peoples lives better is a good thing. Getting violent because your faith has been questioned isn't, nomatter how strongly you believe it. And yes, I realise it is only a very small minority of Muslims who act this way and it is regretable that they are stereotyped for every Muslim in the world. |
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If it produces the same feeling of hatred then there is no difference. Someone is attacking something that you love and you hate it. |
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Two muslim men kissing on a video? IT'S A TRAP. |
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I highly recommend you read those responses on YouTube. Those are our 'brothers'. Look how both sides advocate violence. |
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If you really can't differentiate between the two, then you're beyond reason. If I call you a cunt on the internet, would you be just as offended as if I called you it to your face? It's not so black and white. |
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Imagine if everyone just sat there in silence though that entire video, not even responding at the end of it and completely ignoring the 'artist' as he walks out of the room feeling tiny and pathetic to no applause. That would have been so sweet. If humanities level of intelligence was just that little bit higher maybe we would have seen Lars shrink and fade away to nothing right there on stage. |
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Uh, this is Youtube, the retard magnet of the internet. Don't think that the comments there are the views of anyone with any semblance of intelligence. |
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A human reaction was produced in this video. One we are all capable of. |
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It's a good snapshot of common opinion. |
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They called it pornography within 10 seconds of the film being shown. I didn't see any tits apart from those who got a little crazy and stormed the stage. I've absolutely no doubt the film was an amateurish pile of gash, made to create nothing more than a bit of controversy. The differece is, I wouldn't force them to stop the film or threaten violence against the film-maker because I didn't like it. I'd just walk out. |
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Uh, this is humans responding, it doesn't mean that it's the response of a human. |
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i'm not too sure about youtube being a real retard magnet. i mean, the real retards even don't know how to get on the internet. let alone set up an account at youtube and posting responses. |
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They called it porno when a picture of two men where shown kissing. lol. |
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Is that pornography to you? What if it was a male and female kissing? |
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No, they are in fact smart for not investing time or mixing opinion with other youtube users. Just click on any rnb video on youtube and check the comments. It says more than I ever could about how special the average youtube commenter is. |
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The key to not getting so depressed that you have to annihilate yourself is DO Not Read The Comments. Be it YouTube, a blog post, a news item.... DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS lest you GIVE UP ON HUMANITY. |
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Freedom of speech gave every idiot in the world a voice, but i'd still be willing to die to protect it, even if my death was a result of me pulling the trigger to my own face. |
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So you're not a fan of freedom of speech then, and take it that every image of two males kissing is a direct attack to your soul and family? When i'd show you a picture of two men kissing, just out of the blue, you won't do shit other than wonder why the hell i'm carrying around a picture of two men kissing. So, instead of playing the one that came out winner in last series of The Apprentice: The Devil's Advocate Edition, sort yourself first, or just don't bother mingling into the topic conversation like i do. |
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you have a picture of two men kissing on you? |
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............no? |
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I just wondered why the hell you would :-) |
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i cant believe this thread has got this far without a picture of lemonparty |
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Spikee Dragon i think one of the things about extremist muslims that really irks a lot of people is that there is the premeditated decision to attack anyone. you mention about being "put in a position", and a "moment of weakness". these are spur of the moment, fleeting passionate reactions. you mention about reacting to someone being "graphic about your girlfriend", that is normal. it's not premeditated. extremism, in any religion or sect or cult has a certain level of premeditation. and to threaten and exact revenge on people is tantamount to lawlessness. |
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Oh it will come.. i just can't post pictures right now |
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Islam is the truly the dumbest religion out of dumb religions. One can and should criticize Christianity, but it is clear that without christianity and christian theology we would have seen no age of enlightment nor secularisation.The catholics believe that man is made from gods image, that means we can recognize god through reason!In Islam that is not the case, god can appear as fucking maniac and muslims will just accept that, and justify anything with their violent maniac god. |
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