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i'm a n00b. is it cheaper than buying it? or, better how many plants one should grow to justificate the expense of the lamps, the fertilizers, the ionizer ect.? not to mention the care it's no less than 10€ per gram around here, and i'm getting poorer |
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i plant on the sun. |
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you lucky bastard |
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I like Lienenkugel's Sunset Wheat and Magic Hat |
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you have no sun in italy? :O |
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My friend was doing it, he had 2 plants in his wardrobe , with about £300 worth of equipment you don't want to grow too much if you're in a residential area, 1- because of the smell, and 2- the heat source will be visable to police helicopters infra red cameras, so be careful best to grow in a celler, or if not then spend more cash on concealment measures, by that i mean hiding the smell and blocking the infra red the cycle was about every 3 months he could harvest about 3 or 4 ounces, but each grow revealed new problems, it's a good idea to read allot and research before you start. you could grow just 1 plant and it would probably give you enough to satisfy your habit |
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infra red?? omfg yes just one plant a time would be great for all the reason you mention. i've thought about the wardrobe too, cos i've got no cellar, and spending a bit for hiding the smell.. but the infra red? that sounds like science fiction whats the best site? |
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sometimes, we also got neighbours and all that |
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says US only |
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unless the law has the money and time to hover over your area in a helicopter and report a small amount of weed grown in a closet (which they then have to go to the trouble of properly investigating) then you'll be fine. helicopters are expensive and they are busy with serious crimes, surely. |
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exactly |
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oups, grumpy neighbours suck! here three plants per person are allowed, and you have enough weed for lots of months if you are a middle class smoker... |
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thats a catalunyan law isn't it? |
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i just checked, in italy we have two legal sentences, one the opposite of the other, as per usual |
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hahaha how nice seeing that written like this :) i guess its more a common knowdledge, not really know if its true, but i mostly think it is. anyway, who the fuck should care if i grow a couple of plants, its not im gonna be the dealer of barcelona... just personal consume, what i think its allowed, if you dont traffic or have a real plantation. as you can see im a fucking lawyer licenciate... |
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i'm green with envy, i want them NOW! so, where do i start. w/o going too much into details |
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i'm having a look at some pages, it's a pain in the ass |
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k i'm not really asking more on here, |
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get some seeds, plant them in proper grown (now its perfect moment, hots coming), place them in the most sunny place you know, add some water in daily basis. thats all i know, thats all i do. i must admit its my first time too... :P |
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lol! thanks :) |
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you are welcome! lets interchange some weed if we succeed! |
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i think ampi is right, if you only have one plant with one lamp, it won't be a problem. but it's good to be aware of this anyway. just read some books, also there might be a grow shop in your city, they sell everything you need. it's perfectly legal for them too, cus you could be growing tomatos or fruit indoors for all they know |
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seguro! i finally found a minimal guide things i need: - soil with ph 6,8-7 - fertilizers for grwoing/flowering - lamp - timer for the light - ionizer i think i can do it |
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There aren't helicopters looking out for plants and other heating things you daft idiot. "just read some books" What a patronizing thing to say! Is Ying here yet? |
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haha |
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"thats all i know, thats all i do. i must admit its my first time too" "lets interchange some weed if we succeed!" Melack, you're perilously close to becoming the Mother Goose of weed growing. |
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buy an hps lamp parts at a harware store, I used to assemble a lamp this way for 70-80€. A 400w lamp is good for 1 square meter of gwowing space, so it's good for 4 plants. The real cost is what you will spend on the electricity bill having 400w drain 18hours per day. |
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it's possible, they can detect specific heat signatures and the police will see a house which is immiting much larger heat than other homes, they also rely on electric companies reporting a sudden rise in electric usage.. |
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but not for one or two lamp, if you were greedy and set up a whole room of plants, you would get detected at some point |
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so, is it worth the expense for 1 plant only? |
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5 plants a year and you smoke for free every day |
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i mean, once i bought all the things needed, i don't have to put any more cash in it, electricity apart. and growing one plant per time a bag of seeds it's gonna last. i'm doing this cos i love nature, too |
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nice |
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you can grow them outside..then its only 20 euro's a year for seeds |
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uk police helicopters do have thermal vision camera's, weed farm houses give off something like 3 times more heat than their neighbours, its really obvious when you see the footage they also use simple things like street view to get a better view of the windows |
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read into vegetive propergation and you dont even need to to spend any more money on seeds after you establish the first plant. if you grow outdoors your limited as to when you can plant and harvest, indoors its up to you. |
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be careful to buy a proper lamp with the right spectrum, the watt number is not all you need .-) |
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read into vegetive propergation and you dont even need to to spend any more money on seeds after you establish the first plant. that's great, i'll look more into that @Jons: which is the right spectrum? good thread we're growing though, i didn't expect it thanks all for sharing |
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i dont remember. youd have to google yourself. i just wanted to tell you, you cant just buy a lamp for growing in any store. id look for a growlamp on an italian site. and definitely go to a grow or head shop nearby, to get some advice. |
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ok i'll do it tonight, i'm at work atmo the point interest me though, i'll put the question in another form: which is, in the growing process, the discriminant between the power of a lamp and the spectrum of it? and how the latter could help me save me cash in order to do not waste money for the lamp itself and the electricity, considering the need for personal use only? |
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- you can harvest max 50g (dried) from a plant. - a plant takes 4 months to grow (120 days), and requires 18 hours of light during growing stage and 12 hours while flowering - 400w is a standard for HPS lamps - the price of electricity is 0.20€/Kwh ((((60*18)+(60*12))*400)/1000)*0.20=144€ 144/50=2.88€ per gram but you should also add the price of the lamp, the soil, the pot and the fertilizers to the equation. Then while you're at you should try more than 1 plant, first because, you plant several seeds so you can sort out the male plants, second because the risk is the same from a legal point, third, 2 plants = half the price per gram. If you really want to grow indoor you should be serious about it, a sodium lamp is hella hot and will be left on when your away (read: firehazard) and while you're asleep. If you want to read something, I recommend you Ed Rosenthal Book marijuana grower's handbook, it's a great starting point and covers the basics of growing pot indoor and outdoor (the best way). |
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thanks for the calculation m8 of course i'm going to inform myself seriopusly about the lamps cos i don't want to die smoked. also considering that it will ke kept into a wood closet. i just don't want to read trillion of shit i don't need, or i'll never start. i'd like to keep it basic. |
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Then while you're at you should try more than 1 plant, first because, you plant several seeds so you can sort out the male plants, second because the risk is the same from a legal point, third, 2 plants = half the price per gram. good points |
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That book teaches everything you need and its a must read because it teaches you about the basics of the plant, from growing cycles, to how to spot a male, to the responses of the plant to nutrient deficiencies, etc. It's all shit you need to know really and It's a fun read, well, it was for me at least, but I had fun growing mushrooms too so dunno lol |
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lol i'm almost convinced did you read that in inglish? you didn't stumble upon good ita resources? |
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you can use a ventilation device to prevent being smoked. your plants will like it aswell. and dont collapse in the heat. theres no easy way to dope but you can make it if you invest a bit. then it really pays. to the light spectrum, one can say a lightbulb no matter how many watts cant replace sunlight. a growlamp with 400 watts will do the trick though. i read into it a bit but when i had my own flat i quit the shit .-) otherwise id be homegrowin myself. |
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yeah the Ed rosenthal book is good mo. if your growing in a closet remember a fan air needs to circulate all round the stems, and movement in the plant stimulates root growth. as a standard precaution try and buy anything related to the production of ur crop in cash. |
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great :) |
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c'è un libro che si chiama "campa cavallo che l'erba cresce" in italiano, ma è una fricchettonata degli anni 70 per cui è orientato sulla coltivazione outdoor. Forse trovi qualche traduzione dei libri di Rosenthal ma non so, prova in un grow shop Per la lampada la soluzione ottimale è una lampada HPS (high pressure sodium) che da una luce gialla che va bene sia per la crescita in fase vegetativa che durante la fioritura, per capirci è il tipo di lampadina dei lampioni. Non so se a milano c'è un negozio che si chiama "elettro-distribuzione", ma se vai in una ferramenta seria puoi comprare i pezzi della lampada e montartela da solo pagandola di fatto la metà . |
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