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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 00:24 [#02357520]
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Little horn is coming to get you.
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:06 [#02357527]
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My blood will pour from my fat body and i will send you pics on my way to hell k?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:25 [#02357530]
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na not Obama.
look guys, I don't want to be the storm crow here. I just wanted clear up a little misinterpreting on my end. I didn't come out and say it, so if you want to try and figure it out, fine, if not, then cool too. You don't have to know, I guess.
As far as xlt, it is all chill from here on in. I said what had to be said, and that is that. Everyone knows how to come out on the good end of what is down the road, but that is up to each person.
I'm going to post some music, make some silly banter, and pretend like it never was, unless anyone asks something directly. I picked up some of this on watmm, but I think I'm about done with that too.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:27 [#02357531]
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If you want to discuss it here I can do that to. Just wanted that to be last post on my part in that thread. I really do want to be positive as much as possible, but it is really freaking hard in the times we are living :(
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:28 [#02357532]
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come on now, don't keep your file-cabinet locked. Tell me who is the antichrist because i want to not feel like totally clueless if i actually live long enough to realize it. Thanks glasse for being on the spirit-tip. But i'm not totally convinced. I hope i'm not the antichrist.
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from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:34 [#02357534]
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Ok..
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:38 [#02357537]
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:42 [#02357538]
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In all seriousness (for religion's sake) I was wondering if what i heard was true:
That Jews are the bloodline descendants of Eve's fornication with Satan? Glasse do you believe this to be true? That Cain is the Devil and Eve's son? And Abel is Adam and Eve's only true son?
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:43 [#02357539]
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The Antichrist is Prince Charles of Wales? WTF for real?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:45 [#02357540]
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no i don't believe that. that is illuminati belief probably. i don't think satan had sex with eve, he just got her to trust him over God.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:47 [#02357541]
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he is gonna be real cool for a while when he comes on the scene, and everyone will love him. but then he is going to do a palpatine about face and reveal himself when no one can really do anything about it.
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:49 [#02357542]
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who prince charles of wales? You haven't specifically defined who the antichrist is, maybe if you can simply put the 'name' of the person and a '=' symbol and the the word 'antichrist' to make it clear.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:54 [#02357543]
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yes it is the prince of wales.
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Daniel 8:23-25 23 "In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:12 [#02357544]
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I have another question, according to the Qur'an, the old and new testaments and other jewish or christian documents are falsified and the only TRUE divine book is the qur'an.
So that means all people who are naturally muslim and in that region are like pure people then? Like if they were the only ones on the Earth they would be the most peaceful people and live in harmony as opposed to the jews and christians and the white races. That's why the Al Qaida wants to kill all whiteys and americans and jews and brits and all because they are believed to be evil by muslims.
So wtf
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from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 02:17 [#02357546]
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I answer that and some other questions in here.
Short answer is no. I mean their sects are even blowing each other up all the time. Sunnis vs Shiites, etc.
The main reason they hate us is because of Israel.
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:18 [#02357548]
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That guy looks like he's about to die. And i just saw a freaky pic of this motherfucker. I hope i never have to be next to him, antichrist or not, he's one scary mofo who resembles George Bush a lot.
Igope i'm not in a bad bloodline though. I feel like i am.
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:21 [#02357550]
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"Short answer is no. I mean their sects are even blowing each other up all the time. Sunnis vs Shiites, etc."
I'm sure these explosions are the result of the feuds over Israel. It probably has nothing to do with themselves as a people, so your answer is not really valid.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 02:25 [#02357551]
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there have been warring tribes in that part of the world forever and ever. Iraq and Iran had a war in the 80s that had nothing to do with Israel as far as I know. The Taliban came to power by overthrowing the previous government in Afghanistan. It is just how they roll.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:53 [#02357554]
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You know though, i have the capacity right now, due to this messageboard, the place i live, the money i have, the family i am from, the computer i own, the knowledge i am priveleged-
-to type whatever i want, whenever i want, to go eat a cookie, to take a shit, to lay down in this comfortable bed, to make music, to watch movies on youtube, do anything that seems interesting to me, while maintaing a 'job' and goto 'school' so that i can live in all these conditions provided by my parents so that-
-i can more and more realize the reality of the world we live ALL live in, one that is REALLY a world of conflict, injustice, crime, religious dissonance and unhappiness.
All of these topics are massively expandable each by its own property. I can take the whole next day i am alotted to gather information on just one subject from this thread and it i would not get half-way as far as need to get the necessary information needed to feel somewhat knowedgeable about this stuff. I am becoming tired of typing as i type this right now.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:54 [#02357555]
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Basically i am fucked.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 02:59 [#02357556]
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ok, ready.. now check this out.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:04 [#02357559]
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wait so like because the book of Daniel is revealed that means that the end times is near? like 2012?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:05 [#02357560]
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of course you don't have to be.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:08 [#02357562]
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You go retreat into your dark sinning soul and live it up, glasse.
I will not do that however, and i will live my life by trying to salvage things as best i can before i die.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:09 [#02357563]
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no one knows the day or the hour, but yea most of the signs are in.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:11 [#02357565]
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i am not retreating into anything. i am doing the exact opposite. i am trying to blow the whistle.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:11 [#02357566]
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if stevie nicks' face is the last sound/face you wanna hear before you get your neck slit open by a jihadi, be my guest.
I wanna die by the wrath of God. by his loving death hand. I wanna meet Jesus, i want my cats to be O.K.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:12 [#02357567]
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Right now you are posting random videos, you COULD be posting more information. Poting videos and songs is ignorant to your cause.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:17 [#02357569]
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lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice.
i saw the Sun shine down, and took off my worried shoes.
i feel like those songs speak about Jesus in subtly ways, albeit maybe not intentionally.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:21 [#02357572]
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For some reason i don't feel a strong connection to the thought of Jesus, i feel like it's better to think of the God. Is this wrong glasse?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:27 [#02357577]
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Jesus said that He and His Father are one, and that the only way to the Father is through the Son.
Jesus is all throughout the Old Testament. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:35 [#02357580]
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:47 [#02357583]
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Hey Glasse, really though, i just watched that exorcism video you posted in watmm, and all i can say is that definitely either an evil force, or a force of nature so strong that it had to present itself through that woman. It's like the inclination i get when watching it is to kill her, which is of course religiously not appropriate, but animalistically if that girl were near me i'd probably just run away.
I don't know man that stuff is real life. I read on watmm that you felt the presence of an evil force and you needed to pray, which is good that you can do that for yourself. But for a person like me who still needs some convincing, and i strangely did hear cars pass by when listening to that video on headphones and my sub-pump well, pumping. It was all the much too frightening.
That's horrible she had to endure that, she looked really normal beforehand i wonder how she became so tormented? How does an evil spirit just attack somebody like that?
Crazy stuff and i won't be listening to that again. atleast until daylight.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 04:15 [#02357589]
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Why did God create evil and sin and crazy shit to happen. It's like God wants us to realize we're a part of him and adore him so he creates wickedness and sin so we understand what good is. But there will always be someone suffering, something/one in pain. Maybe not in heaven but on this earth. So we are here to be lucky enough to understand this evil and not witness it first-hand before our time is up.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 11:19 [#02357682]
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He did not create sin, but the potential for it. He did not want to be an absolute puppet master, so He gave people and angels the ability to love Him and choose to follow His wisdom, or to not love Him and reject Him. While He knows that all good things have their source in Him, He can't force others to feel that way also. Satan is the original example, and yes God created Him knowing full well what would happen. Satan's pride and wicked ambition caused his to covet the very throne of God, and he sinned and rallied other angels to his cause. While not explicit in scripture, it is basically implied that his argument is, well if you are God, who is there then to challenge you, and what you say? God, being the loving and benevolent king he is says fine, and so this grand duality is written into every single aspect of nature. Heaven becomes this high courtroom, and the devil is given legal rights to file motions, accuse people, and try to imitate what God does to influence people's lives.
Nature is bound to entropy and decay, and its duality creates a constant picture, a mirror to us of our situation. God constantly calls out to us, and all the while Satan constantly tries to deceive us. Night and day, right and wrong, up and down, joy and pain, it is all like a picture. Everyone chooses, and has equal influence from both sides, whether he wants to love God and be with Him, or not.
Now you say, well why hell? Why can't God just put them on an island somewhere and say, ok have fun see ya. You see there are no torture devices in hell. A person's suffering is exactly equal to the amount from which they are separated from Him. We take for granted that every good thing, every joy, pleasure, love, hope has its ultimate source in Him. Our sins equivocate to degrees of separation, and when you are cut off from the Fountain, you thirst. When you are cut off from food, you hunger. When you are cut off from love, you regret.
This is the best theodicy I can give.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 11:28 [#02357685]
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But don't you agree that if everything is predestined by him, then all of our choices are not really ours but his. So if we sin, it is god who sins? I mean basically i understand the core concept of this all, but it seems like after realizing all of this, why wouldn't God want his children to be all around loving? Why would he need horrible exorcisms, sensless deaths, retardation, and extreme forms of pleasure to attain this adoration? It's like , if you follow God, then you will always feel good, so then none of this temporary life matters, our individuality doesn't matter, we're all just lost facets of one God and all of this seems to be a big joke.
If i ever goto heaven, will i be able to understand that i'm there?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 11:29 [#02357687]
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Listen to the lyrics.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 11:36 [#02357688]
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The bible teaches predestination and election right along side choice and accountability. That is Satan's argument. Well, if you just set your will on them, what is the difference if I deceive and possess them? What does it say in Exodus? Before God hardened Pharaoh's heart Pharaoh hardened Pharaoh's heart. Once we set ourselves on a path, God may actualize that path and use it to His purpose. It is a very mysterious thing and impossible to comprehend. I just have to accept that, while contradictory to my human understanding, choice and accountability do in fact co-exist with election and predestination. The fact that I even apprehend this as much as I do is by grace and inspiration only.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 11:57 [#02357693]
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so then can i just ask, when you think about life, and your will to live, is it so that one day you will be forgiven by God? Because suicide is a sin, so we have to keep feeding ourselves and living until we die, but we don't have to sin, or be unrepentant.
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from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 12:01 [#02357694]
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sorry what i mean is, when you think about eating your next meal, and survival in general, is it just out of fear for death ? Or do you thinkthere's not really any other choice in the matter.
I feel overall then that my life up till this point has been overhwleming and spectacular compared to others' tragedies. I am grateful for all that i have recieved by God.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 12:16 [#02357697]
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In a way I had to give up my life, but at the same time am able to live it in a way like I never could before. Think about me, here. Can I really just go into other threads and just act like another one of the guys? As though none of this happened? Of course, not, I made a choice and counted the cost when I started all of this.
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I could make a dupe, and just post music and pretend to be someone else. I will not do it, I was purchased for a price, and this is my service. It would still be enough if this were like any other time, but especially since it is this time, do I need to lay aside my own life so that others have a chance at theirs.
Think about how short this life is, and how it all really is dust in the wind. I am not saying there aren't joys and pleasures to be gained, and that we should never live for the here and now. I still enjoy having some beers, although I quit smoking pot. I still listen to music, and go out with friends. I, however, prefer to look forward to a world where there is no suffering or pain, and also prefer to have all of my friends and family with me. So, even if everyone I ever knew chooses to dislike me because of the offense of the gospel, it is worth it on the chance that just one will listen and call upon His name.
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from Canada on 2010-01-08 12:23 [#02357698]
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ashes and dust
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 12:29 [#02357700]
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no i think you're totally sincere and honest, i just think that you posting on thie messageboard about this stuff is maybe a little inappropriate to the XLTronic concept, but it's better than some other threads abotu dumb shit.
I wish i was more devout, it gives me a sense of adventure that i still have time to read the testaments and otehr documents to live a richer life.
I think others on here are just kind of stubborn when it comes to God. I know i was and i will be the first one to say i have sinned througout my life so therefore i cannot cast a stone.
But i would rather talk to people like you who are coming from a similar place, at least interms of personal interests. My dad often frequents 'godlikeproductions' forums, he has helped me so much whenever i talk to him.
my mother is Jewish however and unfortunately an ignorant one, but she's lived a turbulent life and i have no right villainize her in anway.
sorry just thought i'd share this stuff to see if you can maybe get a picture of how i am because of my experiences.
I can't wait to enjoy a beer now and then on my own terms.
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on 2010-01-08 12:29 [#02357701]
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i'm glad xltronic has room for all sorts of opinions and stuff and stuff and such.
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on 2010-01-08 12:30 [#02357702]
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call it its charm if you will.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 12:52 [#02357709]
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k gotta go get ready for work. peace all.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2010-01-08 13:17 [#02357722]
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Think about how short this life is, and how it all really is dust in the wind. I am not saying there aren't joys and pleasures to be gained, and that we should never live for the here and now. I still enjoy having some beers, although I quit smoking pot. I still listen to music, and go out with friends. I, however, prefer to look forward to a world where there is no suffering or pain, and also prefer to have all of my friends and family with me.
It does not logically follow from one's desire for some X that X is actually instantiated in reality. This is the problem with most casual arguments for God. Desire is not an argument.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 14:12 [#02357732]
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what?
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2010-01-08 14:30 [#02357733]
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He's completely right. Believing in anything like "God" is not just idiotic (as the existence of "God" violates the Axiom of Existence {A=A}), but also immoral, because it is taken on faith (a vice), rather than reason (a virtue).
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from Horny for Truth on 2010-01-08 14:49 [#02357737]
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How does God violate a = a? And how do you cope with the problem of induction or cartesian skepticism without faith?
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