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offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 00:24 [#02357520]
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Little horn is coming to get you.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:06 [#02357527]
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My blood will pour from my fat body and i will send you pics
on my way to hell k?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:25 [#02357530]
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na not Obama.

look guys, I don't want to be the storm crow here. I just
wanted clear up a little misinterpreting on my end. I
didn't come out and say it, so if you want to try and figure
it out, fine, if not, then cool too. You don't have to
know, I guess.

As far as xlt, it is all chill from here on in. I said what
had to be said, and that is that. Everyone knows how to
come out on the good end of what is down the road, but that
is up to each person.

I'm going to post some music, make some silly banter, and
pretend like it never was, unless anyone asks something
directly. I picked up some of this on watmm, but I think
I'm about done with that too.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:27 [#02357531]
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If you want to discuss it here I can do that to. Just
wanted that to be last post on my part in that thread. I
really do want to be positive as much as possible, but it is
really freaking hard in the times we are living :(


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:28 [#02357532]
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come on now, don't keep your file-cabinet locked. Tell me
who is the antichrist because i want to not feel like
totally clueless if i actually live long enough to realize
it. Thanks glasse for being on the spirit-tip. But i'm not
totally convinced. I hope i'm not the antichrist.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:34 [#02357534]
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Ok..

:(


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:38 [#02357537]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:42 [#02357538]
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In all seriousness (for religion's sake) I was wondering if
what i heard was true:

That Jews are the bloodline descendants of Eve's fornication
with Satan? Glasse do you believe this to be true? That Cain
is the Devil and Eve's son? And Abel is Adam and Eve's only
true son?



 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:43 [#02357539]
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The Antichrist is Prince Charles of Wales? WTF for real?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:45 [#02357540]
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no i don't believe that. that is illuminati belief
probably. i don't think satan had sex with eve, he just got
her to trust him over God.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:47 [#02357541]
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he is gonna be real cool for a while when he comes on the
scene, and everyone will love him. but then he is going to
do a palpatine about face and reveal himself when no one can
really do anything about it.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 01:49 [#02357542]
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who prince charles of wales? You haven't specifically
defined who the antichrist is, maybe if you can simply put
the 'name' of the person and a '=' symbol and the the word
'antichrist' to make it clear.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 01:54 [#02357543]
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yes it is the prince of wales.

LAZY_TITLE

Daniel 8:23-25
23 "In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have
become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of
intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not
by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and
will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty
men and the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper,
and he will consider himself superior. When they feel
secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the
Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by
human power.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:12 [#02357544]
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I have another question, according to the Qur'an, the old
and new testaments and other jewish or christian documents
are falsified and the only TRUE divine book is the qur'an.

So that means all people who are naturally muslim and in
that region are like pure people then? Like if they were the
only ones on the Earth they would be the most peaceful
people and live in harmony as opposed to the jews and
christians and the white races. That's why the Al Qaida
wants to kill all whiteys and americans and jews and brits
and all because they are believed to be evil by muslims.

So wtf


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 02:17 [#02357546]
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I answer that and some other questions in here.

Short answer is no. I mean their sects are even blowing
each other up all the time. Sunnis vs Shiites, etc.

The main reason they hate us is because of Israel.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:18 [#02357548]
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That guy looks like he's about to die. And i just saw a
freaky pic of this motherfucker. I hope i never have to be
next to him, antichrist or not, he's one scary mofo who
resembles George Bush a lot.

Igope i'm not in a bad bloodline though. I feel like i am.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:21 [#02357550]
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"Short answer is no. I mean their sects are even blowing
each other up all the time. Sunnis vs Shiites, etc."

I'm sure these explosions are the result of the feuds over
Israel. It probably has nothing to do with themselves as a
people, so your answer is not really valid.



 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 02:25 [#02357551]
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LAZY_TITLE

there have been warring tribes in that part of the world
forever and ever. Iraq and Iran had a war in the 80s that
had nothing to do with Israel as far as I know. The Taliban
came to power by overthrowing the previous government in
Afghanistan. It is just how they roll.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:53 [#02357554]
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You know though, i have the capacity right now, due to this
messageboard, the place i live, the money i have, the family
i am from, the computer i own, the knowledge i am
priveleged-

-to type whatever i want, whenever i want, to go eat a
cookie, to take a shit, to lay down in this comfortable bed,
to make music, to watch movies on youtube, do anything that
seems interesting to me, while maintaing a 'job' and goto
'school' so that i can live in all these conditions provided
by my parents so that-

-i can more and more realize the reality of the world we
live ALL live in, one that is REALLY a world of conflict,
injustice, crime, religious dissonance and unhappiness.

All of these topics are massively expandable each by its own
property. I can take the whole next day i am alotted to
gather information on just one subject from this thread and
it i would not get half-way as far as need to get the
necessary information needed to feel somewhat knowedgeable
about this stuff. I am becoming tired of typing as i type
this right now.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 02:54 [#02357555]
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Basically i am fucked.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 02:59 [#02357556]
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ok, ready.. now check this out.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:04 [#02357559]
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wait so like because the book of Daniel is revealed that
means that the end times is near? like 2012?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:05 [#02357560]
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of course you don't have to be.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:08 [#02357562]
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You go retreat into your dark sinning soul and live it up,
glasse.

I will not do that however, and i will live my life by
trying to salvage things as best i can before i die.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:09 [#02357563]
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no one knows the day or the hour, but yea most of the signs
are in.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:11 [#02357565]
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i am not retreating into anything. i am doing the exact
opposite. i am trying to blow the whistle.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:11 [#02357566]
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if stevie nicks' face is the last sound/face you wanna hear
before you get your neck slit open by a jihadi, be my
guest.

I wanna die by the wrath of God. by his loving death hand.
I wanna meet Jesus, i want my cats to be O.K.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:12 [#02357567]
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Right now you are posting random videos, you COULD be
posting more information. Poting videos and songs is
ignorant to your cause.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:17 [#02357569]
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lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice.

i saw the Sun shine down, and took off my worried shoes.

i feel like those songs speak about Jesus in subtly ways,
albeit maybe not intentionally.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:21 [#02357572]
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For some reason i don't feel a strong connection to the
thought of Jesus, i feel like it's better to think of the
God. Is this wrong glasse?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:27 [#02357577]
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Jesus said that He and His Father are one, and that the only
way to the Father is through the Son.

Jesus is all throughout the Old Testament. In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 03:35 [#02357580]
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LAZY_TITLE

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 03:47 [#02357583]
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Hey Glasse, really though, i just watched that exorcism
video you posted in watmm, and all i can say is that
definitely either an evil force, or a force of nature so
strong that it had to present itself through that woman.
It's like the inclination i get when watching it is to kill
her, which is of course religiously not appropriate, but
animalistically if that girl were near me i'd probably just
run away.

I don't know man that stuff is real life. I read on watmm
that you felt the presence of an evil force and you needed
to pray, which is good that you can do that for yourself.
But for a person like me who still needs some convincing,
and i strangely did hear cars pass by when listening to that
video on headphones and my sub-pump well, pumping. It was
all the much too frightening.

That's horrible she had to endure that, she looked really
normal beforehand i wonder how she became so tormented? How
does an evil spirit just attack somebody like that?

Crazy stuff and i won't be listening to that again. atleast
until daylight.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 04:15 [#02357589]
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Why did God create evil and sin and crazy shit to happen.
It's like God wants us to realize we're a part of him and
adore him so he creates wickedness and sin so we understand
what good is. But there will always be someone suffering,
something/one in pain. Maybe not in heaven but on this
earth. So we are here to be lucky enough to understand this
evil and not witness it first-hand before our time is up.



 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 11:19 [#02357682]
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He did not create sin, but the potential for it. He did not
want to be an absolute puppet master, so He gave people and
angels the ability to love Him and choose to follow His
wisdom, or to not love Him and reject Him. While He knows
that all good things have their source in Him, He can't
force others to feel that way also. Satan is the original
example, and yes God created Him knowing full well what
would happen. Satan's pride and wicked ambition caused his
to covet the very throne of God, and he sinned and rallied
other angels to his cause. While not explicit in scripture,
it is basically implied that his argument is, well if you
are God, who is there then to challenge you, and what you
say? God, being the loving and benevolent king he is says
fine, and so this grand duality is written into every single
aspect of nature. Heaven becomes this high courtroom, and
the devil is given legal rights to file motions, accuse
people, and try to imitate what God does to influence
people's lives.

Nature is bound to entropy and decay, and its duality
creates a constant picture, a mirror to us of our situation.
God constantly calls out to us, and all the while Satan
constantly tries to deceive us. Night and day, right and
wrong, up and down, joy and pain, it is all like a picture.
Everyone chooses, and has equal influence from both sides,
whether he wants to love God and be with Him, or not.

Now you say, well why hell? Why can't God just put them on
an island somewhere and say, ok have fun see ya. You see
there are no torture devices in hell. A person's suffering
is exactly equal to the amount from which they are separated
from Him. We take for granted that every good thing, every
joy, pleasure, love, hope has its ultimate source in Him.
Our sins equivocate to degrees of separation, and when you
are cut off from the Fountain, you thirst. When you are cut
off from food, you hunger. When you are cut off from love,
you regret.

This is the best theodicy I can give.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 11:28 [#02357685]
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But don't you agree that if everything is predestined by
him, then all of our choices are not really ours but his. So
if we sin, it is god who sins? I mean basically i understand
the core concept of this all, but it seems like after
realizing all of this, why wouldn't God want his children to
be all around loving? Why would he need horrible exorcisms,
sensless deaths, retardation, and extreme forms of pleasure
to attain this adoration? It's like , if you follow God,
then you will always feel good, so then none of this
temporary life matters, our individuality doesn't matter,
we're all just lost facets of one God and all of this seems
to be a big joke.

If i ever goto heaven, will i be able to understand that i'm
there?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 11:29 [#02357687]
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Listen to the lyrics.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 11:36 [#02357688]
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The bible teaches predestination and election right along
side choice and accountability. That is Satan's argument.
Well, if you just set your will on them, what is the
difference if I deceive and possess them? What does it say
in Exodus? Before God hardened Pharaoh's heart
Pharaoh hardened Pharaoh's heart. Once we set
ourselves on a path, God may actualize that path and use it
to His purpose. It is a very mysterious thing and
impossible to comprehend. I just have to accept that, while
contradictory to my human understanding, choice and
accountability do in fact co-exist with election and
predestination. The fact that I even apprehend this as much
as I do is by grace and inspiration only.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 11:57 [#02357693]
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so then can i just ask, when you think about life, and your
will to live, is it so that one day you will be forgiven by
God? Because suicide is a sin, so we have to keep feeding
ourselves and living until we die, but we don't have to sin,
or be unrepentant.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 12:01 [#02357694]
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sorry what i mean is, when you think about eating your next
meal, and survival in general, is it just out of fear for
death ? Or do you thinkthere's not really any other choice
in the matter.

I feel overall then that my life up till this point has been
overhwleming and spectacular compared to others' tragedies.
I am grateful for all that i have recieved by God.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 12:16 [#02357697]
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In a way I had to give up my life, but at the same time am
able to live it in a way like I never could before. Think
about me, here. Can I really just go into other threads and
just act like another one of the guys? As though none of
this happened? Of course, not, I made a choice and counted
the cost when I started all of this.

LAZY_TITLE

LAZY_TITLE

I could make a dupe, and just post music and pretend to be
someone else. I will not do it, I was purchased for a
price, and this is my service. It would still be enough if
this were like any other time, but especially since it is
this time, do I need to lay aside my own life so
that others have a chance at theirs.

Think about how short this life is, and how it all really is
dust in the wind. I am not saying there aren't joys and
pleasures to be gained, and that we should never live for
the here and now. I still enjoy having some beers, although
I quit smoking pot. I still listen to music, and go out
with friends. I, however, prefer to look forward to a world
where there is no suffering or pain, and also prefer to have
all of my friends and family with me. So, even if everyone
I ever knew chooses to dislike me because of the offense of
the gospel, it is worth it on the chance that just one will
listen and call upon His name.


 

offline MAXIMUSMISCHIEF from Canada on 2010-01-08 12:23 [#02357698]
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ashes and dust


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 12:29 [#02357700]
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no i think you're totally sincere and honest, i just think
that you posting on thie messageboard about this stuff is
maybe a little inappropriate to the XLTronic concept, but
it's better than some other threads abotu dumb shit.

I wish i was more devout, it gives me a sense of adventure
that i still have time to read the testaments and otehr
documents to live a richer life.

I think others on here are just kind of stubborn when it
comes to God. I know i was and i will be the first one to
say i have sinned througout my life so therefore i cannot
cast a stone.

But i would rather talk to people like you who are coming
from a similar place, at least interms of personal
interests. My dad often frequents 'godlikeproductions'
forums, he has helped me so much whenever i talk to him.

my mother is Jewish however and unfortunately an ignorant
one, but she's lived a turbulent life and i have no right
villainize her in anway.

sorry just thought i'd share this stuff to see if you can
maybe get a picture of how i am because of my experiences.

I can't wait to enjoy a beer now and then on my own terms.


 

offline Advocate on 2010-01-08 12:29 [#02357701]
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i'm glad xltronic has room for all sorts of opinions and
stuff and stuff and such.


 

offline Advocate on 2010-01-08 12:30 [#02357702]
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call it its charm if you will.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-08 12:52 [#02357709]
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k gotta go get ready for work. peace all.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2010-01-08 13:17 [#02357722]
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Think about how short this life is, and how it all really
is dust in the wind. I am not saying there aren't joys and
pleasures to be gained, and that we should never live for
the here and now. I still enjoy having some beers, although
I quit smoking pot. I still listen to music, and go out with
friends. I, however, prefer to look forward to a world where
there is no suffering or pain, and also prefer to have all
of my friends and family with me.


It does not logically follow from one's desire for some X
that X is actually instantiated in reality. This is the
problem with most casual arguments for God. Desire is not an
argument.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-08 14:12 [#02357732]
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what?


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2010-01-08 14:30 [#02357733]
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He's completely right. Believing in anything like "God" is
not just idiotic (as the existence of "God" violates the
Axiom of Existence {A=A}), but also immoral, because it is
taken on faith (a vice), rather than reason (a virtue).


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2010-01-08 14:49 [#02357737]
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How does God violate a = a? And how do you cope with the
problem of induction or cartesian skepticism without faith?


 


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