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offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-04-05 00:33 [#00158381]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker



why is it that I feel like doing nothing except making my
life more simple? and less complicated with talking/typing
to people?

isn't it ironic that I sit and type this message about
"freeing" up my time with nothing. Why were we created to
just sit and think? Why was thought even mentioned to
humans? Can we not just "do" without thinking?


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 00:35 [#00158385]
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hmm....

Thinking.....


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-04-05 00:41 [#00158393]
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no,we are a supreme species


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-05 00:43 [#00158396]
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Work will suck the life right out of me, I'm sure of it.
We're born workers, little fucking worker bees going 9 to 5
for nothing. Hopefully I'll find something that will make
this crap worth it.


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 00:43 [#00158397]
Points: 1897 Status: Regular



Hardly.

My mate has this theory that once every creature was at our
point, but then asked themselves a question. What does
technology do for me? They realised that all this "advanced"
living was pointless, and they found happyness in a simple
life of a beast.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 00:46 [#00158401]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker



Clearing the mind of Talking Quoth or your Talking Andy or
whoever lives in your head and chatters all day long is the
goal of meditation for many. Living on complete intuition
(completely focused on the herenow) and spontaneous action
without having to go through the steps of logical processing
would be quite an experience. In a sense, intuition when
perfected would be something like instantaneous logic,
knowing or feeling the answer before the quesiton is asked.
Imagine the efficiency and harmony of life that would exist
if everyone were in this hypothetical state. There's a
thought.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-04-05 01:10 [#00158420]
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heh... I do very much believe a lot in trying to
instantaneous logic. But is it possible? Is "life" just like
what everyone imagined it to be? I mean, if we lived in the
Matrix... this could be possible... but seriously... will
life ever exist some sort of mind where "all is happy: all
the time"?


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:06 [#00158470]
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i can't say if that moment will be reached when everyone
gives in to their intuition and stops questioning their
heart, but if you've ever had a moment of intuituin and
didn't question the feeling, just went with it then you've
experienced this. i believe everything we need to know,
like what is the best decision to make given any number of
choices, is available to everyone at every moment if we only
let go.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:08 [#00158472]
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i suppose you could call that my faith. whether it's true
or not science will probably never be able to answer either
way. so i suppose i have faith in giving into faith. never
thought of it like that, kinda strange,


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:34 [#00158502]
Points: 1044 Status: Lurker



Here is a little bit of the theory(s) I have developed,
perhaps they will provide some insight: At the core, man is
a machine in the sense that he will always act selfishly for
himself without exception. While there does appear to be
sacrifices or good deeds, it really is nothing more then man
acting accordance to what will stop him from feeling
disonence. i.e. giving money/sacrificing your life b/c you
would feel bad if you did anything else.
In accordance with this, man is never disengaged from
the past (determinism), and while there does appear to be
options in life, there is only one path. To illustrate
this, someone takes a pool shot. While the poolball could
have gone anywhere, with it's given tragetory it could then
only go in one specific path and direction.
And to top things off is existentialism, in which
there is no difinitive point to life, so we are forced to
make up our own point (even believing that there is no point
to life is a point). We then inherently suffer from knowing
that all actions/respncibilties are up to us and whatever
consequences that may result.

Sorry for the extremely long post, how this is
interesting to someone!



 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:51 [#00158531]
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anyone have any comments?


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-04-05 04:17 [#00158708]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zen Storm: #00158502



* this is interesting to me... because it isn't some
rhetoric bull shit that I have to listen to in some
fucking-confined space such as a school *


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-04-05 04:31 [#00158715]
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existentialism when experienced makes me feel sick, rather
an unnatural state of mind i fear, which leads me to believe
that it is possible that there is a point. what satre made
me question was that is there any point in believing that
there is no point?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-04-05 05:17 [#00158723]
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if you were to throw in some postmodernism - it would quite
nicely undermine your little theory :)


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 18:49 [#00159566]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zen Storm: #00158502



About the selfish attitude of man: this is true and the
ultimate drive is to please the self, but the self actually
includes the world. Your body is only focal point of your
consciousness and I am actually a distant part of you. Acts
of charity and sacrifice that we have seen up to this point
are only the very beginning of realizing that to be truly
pleases those around us must not be suffering. I don't
believe that selfish people are anywhere near as content
with life as they could be.

As for one path, that's not true. When it gets down to the
Quantum level the behaior of matter/energy is based on
probability and no one knows what exactly prompts a given
particle to do exactly what it does. Error in exact
prediction in a controlled experiment is not only due to the
interferences and human error, but also to he fact that
subtle variations in behavior of matter energy prevent us
from knowing exactly how particles will interect. In theory
(keep in mind I only know the gist, and no details) a
particle (i dunno, an electron or something) could
spontaneously borrow an limitless amount of energy from the
void of nothingness so long as it is returned in some way,
but the more energy it borrows the less likely are the odds
of it's occurence. So basically, the so called paths set
for the future are something we tend to believe in due to
the oversimplification of science learned in school and the
assumption that there is a logical and scientific way in
which we can map the bevahior of reality, when in fact
scientific mapping of reality is only "very close" and the
further into the future you look the further off the
predictions.


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-04-05 18:52 [#00159569]
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offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 18:57 [#00159576]
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See, the herenow is everywhere;)


 


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