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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-04-05 00:33 [#00158381]
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why is it that I feel like doing nothing except making my life more simple? and less complicated with talking/typing to people?
isn't it ironic that I sit and type this message about "freeing" up my time with nothing. Why were we created to just sit and think? Why was thought even mentioned to humans? Can we not just "do" without thinking?
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 00:35 [#00158385]
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hmm....
Thinking.....
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-04-05 00:41 [#00158393]
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no,we are a supreme species
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-05 00:43 [#00158396]
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Work will suck the life right out of me, I'm sure of it. We're born workers, little fucking worker bees going 9 to 5 for nothing. Hopefully I'll find something that will make this crap worth it.
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 00:43 [#00158397]
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Hardly.
My mate has this theory that once every creature was at our point, but then asked themselves a question. What does technology do for me? They realised that all this "advanced" living was pointless, and they found happyness in a simple life of a beast.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 00:46 [#00158401]
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Clearing the mind of Talking Quoth or your Talking Andy or whoever lives in your head and chatters all day long is the goal of meditation for many. Living on complete intuition (completely focused on the herenow) and spontaneous action without having to go through the steps of logical processing would be quite an experience. In a sense, intuition when perfected would be something like instantaneous logic, knowing or feeling the answer before the quesiton is asked. Imagine the efficiency and harmony of life that would exist if everyone were in this hypothetical state. There's a thought.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-04-05 01:10 [#00158420]
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heh... I do very much believe a lot in trying to instantaneous logic. But is it possible? Is "life" just like what everyone imagined it to be? I mean, if we lived in the Matrix... this could be possible... but seriously... will life ever exist some sort of mind where "all is happy: all the time"?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:06 [#00158470]
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i can't say if that moment will be reached when everyone gives in to their intuition and stops questioning their heart, but if you've ever had a moment of intuituin and didn't question the feeling, just went with it then you've experienced this. i believe everything we need to know, like what is the best decision to make given any number of choices, is available to everyone at every moment if we only let go.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:08 [#00158472]
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i suppose you could call that my faith. whether it's true or not science will probably never be able to answer either way. so i suppose i have faith in giving into faith. never thought of it like that, kinda strange,
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:34 [#00158502]
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Here is a little bit of the theory(s) I have developed, perhaps they will provide some insight: At the core, man is a machine in the sense that he will always act selfishly for himself without exception. While there does appear to be sacrifices or good deeds, it really is nothing more then man acting accordance to what will stop him from feeling disonence. i.e. giving money/sacrificing your life b/c you would feel bad if you did anything else.
In accordance with this, man is never disengaged from the past (determinism), and while there does appear to be options in life, there is only one path. To illustrate this, someone takes a pool shot. While the poolball could have gone anywhere, with it's given tragetory it could then only go in one specific path and direction.
And to top things off is existentialism, in which there is no difinitive point to life, so we are forced to make up our own point (even believing that there is no point to life is a point). We then inherently suffer from knowing that all actions/respncibilties are up to us and whatever consequences that may result.
Sorry for the extremely long post, how this is interesting to someone!
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-05 02:51 [#00158531]
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anyone have any comments?
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-04-05 04:17 [#00158708]
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* this is interesting to me... because it isn't some rhetoric bull shit that I have to listen to in some fucking-confined space such as a school *
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-04-05 04:31 [#00158715]
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existentialism when experienced makes me feel sick, rather an unnatural state of mind i fear, which leads me to believe that it is possible that there is a point. what satre made me question was that is there any point in believing that there is no point?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-04-05 05:17 [#00158723]
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if you were to throw in some postmodernism - it would quite nicely undermine your little theory :)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 18:49 [#00159566]
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About the selfish attitude of man: this is true and the ultimate drive is to please the self, but the self actually includes the world. Your body is only focal point of your consciousness and I am actually a distant part of you. Acts of charity and sacrifice that we have seen up to this point are only the very beginning of realizing that to be truly pleases those around us must not be suffering. I don't believe that selfish people are anywhere near as content with life as they could be.
As for one path, that's not true. When it gets down to the Quantum level the behaior of matter/energy is based on probability and no one knows what exactly prompts a given particle to do exactly what it does. Error in exact prediction in a controlled experiment is not only due to the interferences and human error, but also to he fact that subtle variations in behavior of matter energy prevent us from knowing exactly how particles will interect. In theory (keep in mind I only know the gist, and no details) a particle (i dunno, an electron or something) could spontaneously borrow an limitless amount of energy from the void of nothingness so long as it is returned in some way, but the more energy it borrows the less likely are the odds of it's occurence. So basically, the so called paths set for the future are something we tend to believe in due to the oversimplification of science learned in school and the assumption that there is a logical and scientific way in which we can map the bevahior of reality, when in fact scientific mapping of reality is only "very close" and the further into the future you look the further off the predictions.
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joey
from montréal (Canada) on 2002-04-05 18:52 [#00159569]
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1577311523/qid=10180 29151/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_67_1/103-4747386-6643009
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-05 18:57 [#00159576]
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See, the herenow is everywhere;)
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