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analog Synth workstation thing?
 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 06:55 [#02347045]
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is there an analog workstation where you could have say 4
oscillators a filter and midi input for each osc? something
simple that you could make some cool live analog synth music
for? so you could use 2 oscs for some noise/drum sounds and
2 oscs for melodies or notation?


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 06:56 [#02347046]
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yes


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 06:56 [#02347047]
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.


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offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 06:59 [#02347048]
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hapy thanksgiving


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-11-26 07:09 [#02347050]
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not analog but nord lead2x is very fun, and u can shape some
drum sounds with it


 

offline Sano on 2009-11-26 07:16 [#02347052]
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SynthEdit
VAZ Modular
SynthMaker


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:17 [#02347053]
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yeah i was looking at ensoniq stuff like esq 1 because you
can use just the keyboard's oscs for drums and a piano. but
something kraftwerk sounding, something modular maybe.


 

offline cwnt on 2009-11-26 07:18 [#02347054]
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alesis andromeda


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:28 [#02347056]
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awesome synth, but no individual midi inputs for each voice.
and around 2500$ looking for something simple that can be
built onto, like a synthesizers.com modular ?


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:29 [#02347057]
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like this


 

offline cwnt on 2009-11-26 07:36 [#02347059]
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andromeda is 16 part multitimbral!

ok, try a paia DIY modular kit or two:
http://www.paia.com/proddetail.asp?prod=P9700S&cat=12
can you solder and use a multimeter? :-D


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:38 [#02347061]
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i can solder but i have no idea what a multimeter is, i was
hopeing for something premade, but yeah i think it'd be
smarter to mess around with individual parts myself, except
i'm not experienced with it at all.


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-26 08:03 [#02347065]
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ensoniq is not analog
sequential circuits then?


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-26 08:05 [#02347066]
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hahahaha "can use just the keyboard's oscs for drums and a
piano. but something kraftwerk sounding, something modular
maybe."

i assure you, there are more sounds in there than a piano
and drums


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 08:11 [#02347068]
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i meant percussion and melody. i used the word piano so that
you could get that mental image of me using piano keys.
lol!

also i know ensoniq isn't analog, but the capablities is
what i was referring to, the ability to program percussion
and melody from the 3? oscs. it does have analog filter
though.

sequential circuits is great but is pretty expensive, i
think buying a prebuilt paia modular or dotcom would be
best. any specific Sequential Circuit product in mind
though?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2009-11-26 08:14 [#02347069]
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korg radias


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-26 08:16 [#02347070]
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i dont own any sequential circuit gear, but do google for it
they're quite lovely devices

the esq1 has 3 oscs yeh, 3 lfo's and 4 envelopes, all
assignable to everything and anything. For the rest, picture
the workstation as 8 individual synths in your studio. All
that misses is an ability to midi control 8 individual
presets from something else, but i havent looked into it
maybe being in the last version of the eprom.


 

offline envmod from Northern Mariana Islands on 2009-11-26 15:26 [#02347157]
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a dotcom modular system that will do what you want is
probably as expensive, if not more so, than a lot of the
"expensive" analogue gear in this thread. even a paia built
to your specs would be quite a lot.

i do not know of any synth with separate midi controls for
each oscillator - you would definitely have to build
something bespoke. however, you can probably achieve what
you want to do using an analogue synth with CV/Gate controls
for each oscillator and a MIDI/CV converter (or some bit of
gear that can act as one). to this end, an MFB Kraftzwerg
(semi modular) might be worth looking into - can pick them
up new for £400ish.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 17:05 [#02347175]
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yeah those mfbs are really cool synths. that kraftzwerg is
exactly along the lines of what i was talking about, thanks.



 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-11-26 17:07 [#02347177]
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of course you can set up a layered multi, have each
channel/layer set to midi and keyboard, but have each one on
its own midi channel. That way you could play the patches
on each channel as one sound but control other parameters
separately. If you had a controller w pads you could set
your drums/perc to that. that is something i could set up
on my waldorf q, for instance, although i would probably
need a separate controller to actually play drum sounds in
real time while i play my multi patch. what i would
probably do is have step sequencer patterns for the drum
track that could be triggered one way or another, or have
some gated noise track or something running.

now in circle, which is a soft synth i have, it is easy to
map modules like step sequencers and arpeggiators to
individual oscillators. in fact there are patches that
sound like a full 4 bar techno loop with kick drum, synth
sequence, hat, bass line, etc. just by using a clever
combination of modules. i don't know if you can map actual
midi to each oscillator, but that is ok because you can use
envelopes, LFOs and the arps and seqs to control them from
within the patch.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 17:14 [#02347183]
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the thing is that i want to control each oscillator with
midi notes provided from a sequencer program like ableton,
which makes it very easy to have multiple midi outs with
separate sequences. so i could compose simple nice music
with the ease of using a computer while having the
accessibility of controlling each osc. I wouldn't want to
bother with the synths settings, like the envelopes or lfos,
those would be used for other means.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-11-26 17:21 [#02347188]
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check out circle anyway. it may not be exactly what you
want but you can get some pretty intricate results in a way
that is visual and intuitive. not dials and menus at all,
you literally drag and drop connections between modules and
everything is seen on one front panel. fits right in to the
live workflow.

only drawback is that it does hog a lot of power, but there
is an economy mode that you can just leave on until you're
ready to render, freeze etc.


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 19:59 [#02347270]
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i have an esq-1, my very first synth


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 19:59 [#02347271]
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will you sell it to me?


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 20:01 [#02347273]
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lol i was gonna suggest that coz im broke

but i'd so regret that

it needs a


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 20:01 [#02347274]
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..few things repaired


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 20:02 [#02347275]
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i dont think the cartridge works anymore


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 20:02 [#02347276]
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sry brah.


 

offline hexane on 2009-11-26 20:03 [#02347277]
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dont think i could let go of it, it has such charm

deffo recommend you ebay yerself one brah


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 20:08 [#02347279]
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anything worth getting on ebay usually already has like 15
bids on it. craigslist has been awesome.


 

offline anirog on 2009-11-26 23:19 [#02347291]
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Fah spotted this but is being coy about it.

tetra



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2009-11-29 15:58 [#02347763]
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Yeah, that description fits pretty much any of the DSI
polysynths.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2009-11-30 14:25 [#02347960]
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The Alesis Ion has four part multitimbrality. Get a good
sequencer and you've got a good synth/drum machine then.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2009-11-30 14:58 [#02347966]
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Its not analogue.


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-30 23:23 [#02347989]
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i am?

ah, it's that thing... yeah... hm. Depends on what you like,
i enjoy a large nearly-everything-in-your-gob-interface. No
comment on the sound, though the example videos showed off
quite some cheese.


 

offline cwnt on 2009-12-01 00:05 [#02347991]
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digital is made from analogue


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2009-12-01 02:06 [#02348000]
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They sound excellent, believe me. However, DSI always sell
synthesizers chock full of shitty presets. Watch youtube for
some better examples.

Fortunately you can get a software interface for the
tetr4. Midi will allow you to control each voice separately.
You can sequence every voice separately. It does everything
you suggested, in a tiny box. Unfortunately, its not totally
a workstation, because it doesn't have a keyboard. However,
the prophet 8 does.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2009-12-01 02:07 [#02348001]
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Saw you were looking at sequential stuff, speaking of the
dsi gear. Have you thought of trying to get your hands on a
sixtrak?


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-12-01 07:41 [#02348027]
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The sixtrack looks excellent, though i'm currently very very
happy with my ESQ-1 :D


 


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