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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 06:55 [#02347045]
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is there an analog workstation where you could have say 4 oscillators a filter and midi input for each osc? something simple that you could make some cool live analog synth music for? so you could use 2 oscs for some noise/drum sounds and 2 oscs for melodies or notation?
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 06:56 [#02347046]
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yes
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 06:56 [#02347047]
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 06:59 [#02347048]
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hapy thanksgiving
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-11-26 07:09 [#02347050]
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not analog but nord lead2x is very fun, and u can shape some drum sounds with it
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Sano
on 2009-11-26 07:16 [#02347052]
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SynthEdit VAZ Modular SynthMaker
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:17 [#02347053]
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yeah i was looking at ensoniq stuff like esq 1 because you can use just the keyboard's oscs for drums and a piano. but something kraftwerk sounding, something modular maybe.
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cwnt
on 2009-11-26 07:18 [#02347054]
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alesis andromeda
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:28 [#02347056]
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awesome synth, but no individual midi inputs for each voice. and around 2500$ looking for something simple that can be built onto, like a synthesizers.com modular ?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:29 [#02347057]
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like this
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cwnt
on 2009-11-26 07:36 [#02347059]
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andromeda is 16 part multitimbral!
ok, try a paia DIY modular kit or two: http://www.paia.com/proddetail.asp?prod=P9700S&cat=12 can you solder and use a multimeter? :-D
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 07:38 [#02347061]
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i can solder but i have no idea what a multimeter is, i was hopeing for something premade, but yeah i think it'd be smarter to mess around with individual parts myself, except i'm not experienced with it at all.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-26 08:03 [#02347065]
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ensoniq is not analog sequential circuits then?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-26 08:05 [#02347066]
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hahahaha "can use just the keyboard's oscs for drums and a piano. but something kraftwerk sounding, something modular maybe."
i assure you, there are more sounds in there than a piano and drums
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 08:11 [#02347068]
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i meant percussion and melody. i used the word piano so that you could get that mental image of me using piano keys. lol!
also i know ensoniq isn't analog, but the capablities is what i was referring to, the ability to program percussion and melody from the 3? oscs. it does have analog filter though.
sequential circuits is great but is pretty expensive, i think buying a prebuilt paia modular or dotcom would be best. any specific Sequential Circuit product in mind though?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2009-11-26 08:14 [#02347069]
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korg radias
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-26 08:16 [#02347070]
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i dont own any sequential circuit gear, but do google for it they're quite lovely devices
the esq1 has 3 oscs yeh, 3 lfo's and 4 envelopes, all assignable to everything and anything. For the rest, picture the workstation as 8 individual synths in your studio. All that misses is an ability to midi control 8 individual presets from something else, but i havent looked into it maybe being in the last version of the eprom.
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envmod
from Northern Mariana Islands on 2009-11-26 15:26 [#02347157]
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a dotcom modular system that will do what you want is probably as expensive, if not more so, than a lot of the "expensive" analogue gear in this thread. even a paia built to your specs would be quite a lot.
i do not know of any synth with separate midi controls for each oscillator - you would definitely have to build something bespoke. however, you can probably achieve what you want to do using an analogue synth with CV/Gate controls for each oscillator and a MIDI/CV converter (or some bit of gear that can act as one). to this end, an MFB Kraftzwerg (semi modular) might be worth looking into - can pick them up new for £400ish.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 17:05 [#02347175]
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yeah those mfbs are really cool synths. that kraftzwerg is exactly along the lines of what i was talking about, thanks.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-11-26 17:07 [#02347177]
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of course you can set up a layered multi, have each channel/layer set to midi and keyboard, but have each one on its own midi channel. That way you could play the patches on each channel as one sound but control other parameters separately. If you had a controller w pads you could set your drums/perc to that. that is something i could set up on my waldorf q, for instance, although i would probably need a separate controller to actually play drum sounds in real time while i play my multi patch. what i would probably do is have step sequencer patterns for the drum track that could be triggered one way or another, or have some gated noise track or something running.
now in circle, which is a soft synth i have, it is easy to map modules like step sequencers and arpeggiators to individual oscillators. in fact there are patches that sound like a full 4 bar techno loop with kick drum, synth sequence, hat, bass line, etc. just by using a clever combination of modules. i don't know if you can map actual midi to each oscillator, but that is ok because you can use envelopes, LFOs and the arps and seqs to control them from within the patch.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 17:14 [#02347183]
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the thing is that i want to control each oscillator with midi notes provided from a sequencer program like ableton, which makes it very easy to have multiple midi outs with separate sequences. so i could compose simple nice music with the ease of using a computer while having the accessibility of controlling each osc. I wouldn't want to bother with the synths settings, like the envelopes or lfos, those would be used for other means.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-11-26 17:21 [#02347188]
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check out circle anyway. it may not be exactly what you want but you can get some pretty intricate results in a way that is visual and intuitive. not dials and menus at all, you literally drag and drop connections between modules and everything is seen on one front panel. fits right in to the live workflow.
only drawback is that it does hog a lot of power, but there is an economy mode that you can just leave on until you're ready to render, freeze etc.
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 19:59 [#02347270]
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i have an esq-1, my very first synth
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 19:59 [#02347271]
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will you sell it to me?
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 20:01 [#02347273]
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lol i was gonna suggest that coz im broke
but i'd so regret that
it needs a
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 20:01 [#02347274]
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..few things repaired
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 20:02 [#02347275]
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i dont think the cartridge works anymore
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 20:02 [#02347276]
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sry brah.
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hexane
on 2009-11-26 20:03 [#02347277]
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dont think i could let go of it, it has such charm
deffo recommend you ebay yerself one brah
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-11-26 20:08 [#02347279]
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anything worth getting on ebay usually already has like 15 bids on it. craigslist has been awesome.
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anirog
on 2009-11-26 23:19 [#02347291]
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Fah spotted this but is being coy about it.
tetra
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-11-29 15:58 [#02347763]
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Yeah, that description fits pretty much any of the DSI polysynths.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2009-11-30 14:25 [#02347960]
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The Alesis Ion has four part multitimbrality. Get a good sequencer and you've got a good synth/drum machine then.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-11-30 14:58 [#02347966]
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Its not analogue.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-11-30 23:23 [#02347989]
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i am?
ah, it's that thing... yeah... hm. Depends on what you like, i enjoy a large nearly-everything-in-your-gob-interface. No comment on the sound, though the example videos showed off quite some cheese.
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cwnt
on 2009-12-01 00:05 [#02347991]
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digital is made from analogue
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-12-01 02:06 [#02348000]
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They sound excellent, believe me. However, DSI always sell synthesizers chock full of shitty presets. Watch youtube for some better examples.
Fortunately you can get a software interface for the tetr4. Midi will allow you to control each voice separately. You can sequence every voice separately. It does everything you suggested, in a tiny box. Unfortunately, its not totally a workstation, because it doesn't have a keyboard. However, the prophet 8 does.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-12-01 02:07 [#02348001]
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Saw you were looking at sequential stuff, speaking of the dsi gear. Have you thought of trying to get your hands on a sixtrak?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-12-01 07:41 [#02348027]
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The sixtrack looks excellent, though i'm currently very very happy with my ESQ-1 :D
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