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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 08:56 [#02338614]
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Do you think most artists have this?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-10-23 09:00 [#02338617]
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not most, but studies show that there's a higher percentage of sysesthetic artists than non-artist synesthetes, particularly musicians.
i'm currently reading 'musicophelia' by oliver sacks which has a huge chapter on synesthesia. i seriously recommend this book to anyone interested in both music and psychology.
also i'm so insanely jealous of synesthetes.
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 09:05 [#02338620]
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I have it, I recently found out what it was, I thought it was normal.
I was having a normal conversation with a friend in 3d animation class and he brings up Synesthesia and I asked him if thought the same way did and said no.
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 09:06 [#02338621]
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I will look up on this book
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-10-23 09:16 [#02338622]
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what kind of synesthesia do you have?
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-10-23 09:21 [#02338624]
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i think most artists see pictures as pictures, music as music etc., many people who are very talented musicians can't draw well, are not good at picking colors (why are the layouts of music literature shitty so often? i think often they don't hire graphic designers but some musical dudes do it themselves with crap results) and maybe the same the other way around.
if most artists would "suffer" from synesthesia, we would have a lot more synaesthetic art.
imo it can be trained to a certain level at least - one could call it a higher, lucid awareness of your surroundings... ("if that car was a marshmellow, what song would it sing?" etc basically), also there's always shrooms/acid.
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 09:21 [#02338625]
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I dont have it to an extreme but so for I've noticed when I think of letters I they are
A. red B. Blue C. lighter blue D.Green E. yellow F. orange So on and so forth
And with music a small amount
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 09:25 [#02338627]
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Thats odd, bad color choice? I can draw fairly well, but anything that i draw from my mind is complete and udder shit, but if I look at something and draw it its accurate.
my teacher told me I was a Mimicker and when It comes to color I choose not to because i think it looks worse with the colors I choose.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-10-23 09:33 [#02338628]
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when you close your eyes, is it easy for you to imagine detailed "inner worlds"? Do these have sound/color/smell?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-10-23 09:39 [#02338629]
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actually it seems that a tendency for synesthetic abilities is most strongly represented by genetics, not on environment.
conversely, perfect pitch (a skill which is also often paired with synesthesia for even stronger effects, ie very intense color associations with individual keys regardless of the relative tones, which is what most musical synesthesia is based on) has been found to be much more common in children who are raised speaking a tonal language (chinese etc). so it seems that perfect pitch is a skill which could be cultivated, while synesthesia does not seem as likely.
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 10:41 [#02338641]
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Terrence Hill yes I can I feel like you can tell what I'm like Its an odd feeling
So is it more likely that I have Perfect pitch or Synesthesia
I'm asking because you have research much more than I ever had hah
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-10-23 11:30 [#02338663]
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ha okay i'm a bit jealous that you have that sound/smell thing, for me it's just visuals with a slight connection to sound (and i don't think it's genetics, so not true synaesthesia... mostly i used to draw a lot and also drugs)
dunno, make the best of it. You seem to be studying creative stuff and you're basically gifted with enhanced perception, so as long as you can drive a car n stuff without being distracted too much it's all good lol.
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 11:42 [#02338665]
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Well I wouldn't be to jealous If i were you lol When Im stressed is when I hate it, My mind thinks of things on its own and it rants stupid sayings
it will repeat over and over again till something stops it, and I will think of the most disturbing things and I cant stop it half the time.
I've tried researching my behavior and so far I have found out that I have
Bipolar/schizophrenia but not to an extreme case so they call this mixture
I think Borderline personality disorder. I think I'm leaning more to the Schizo side
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RussellDust
on 2009-10-23 11:44 [#02338667]
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PISS OUT MY ASS
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 11:48 [#02338670]
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I swear youve got Tourettes.,RD.
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RussellDust
on 2009-10-23 11:49 [#02338673]
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I'M A GAY MAN!
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 11:52 [#02338676]
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I've got Specialness, I swear I see things COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and yet at the same time I'm SELF AWARE and LUCID.
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 11:53 [#02338677]
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And I posted this on monday. Fucking Royal Mail.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 11:56 [#02338680]
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I am eating a lot of pickles lately, though, maybe I'm pregnant.
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RussellDust
on 2009-10-23 12:01 [#02338688]
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Where you pregnant you'd want strawberries with your pickles.
Atwood: :D (what)
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-23 12:40 [#02338714]
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Prego eh?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 16:06 [#02338775]
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Its a real brain condition, not just like a metaphor. I think its caused simply from the 'color' processing area of the brain being adjacent to the 'number' area (or something, I don't remember. Search for: 'ramachandran synesthesia').
Here is an experimental test that pretty much proves some people have it (hard for a person without it to distinguish 2's and 5's, but people who see 2's as red can very quickly see all the 2's):
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Daniel Tammet has really fucked up Synesthesia type stuff and can use it to somehow picture numbers as shapes and colors, allowing him to recite pi to more than 22 thousand decimal places... A calculator could do that pretty easily (if it allowed more digits) but human brains aren't normally wired like that.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 16:36 [#02338784]
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I may have Synesthesia.
I am very creative- in poetry, can draw well, not so much from imagination, but from life, I have a strong sense of rhythm and am okay at drums, am pretty good at photography.
I have had a few dreams in which I have definately heard music, which I am not aware of ever having heard before hand. Also, I often wake with a song I ahve heard before in my head, as if it was the 'theme tune' to the dream.
In addition, I see a lot of things as relating to shapes, such as pleasant feelings being rounded, and generally unplesant things being sharp in my mind and stuff.
I guess it doesn't matter whether I have it or not- as my nan said, it won't change the way I think about things...
But still, whatta you think from the stuff I have said?
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 16:39 [#02338786]
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I thought it was cool at first, but now I wouldn't be 'jealous' of syesthetes. But is synesthesia related to those other conditions?
Also, why the fuck is my spellchecker not giving me any suggestions if 'synesthesia' isn't a word? :/
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-10-23 16:54 [#02338797]
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i see sound somewhat visually, in terms of textures, light/dark, contours, etc. but it never seemed like something uncommon or profound enough to think of as synesthesia. of course smoking or what not enhances that effect.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 16:56 [#02338799]
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well, I don't imagine it would seem weird or profound to a syesthete... :/
But maybe I am wrong, dunno. *shrugs*
I wanna do more research on it, but there doesn't seem to that much on the net.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 17:06 [#02338805]
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You're just thinking metaphorically or imaginatively. People who have synesthesia ACTUALLY see printed numbers in colors or whatever mixup they have.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-23 17:12 [#02338808]
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Yeah, I think you're right.
I don't have it, s'pose.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-23 19:25 [#02338867]
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idm
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-10-23 19:47 [#02338869]
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pretty much none of those point to synesthesia.
like wmw said, it's a very specific condition. the most common kind of synesthesia is alpha-numeric to color, in which one sees or associates letters, words, or numbers with colors. this is commonly also paired with the same kind of association with days of the week, months, etc.
music to color synesthesia is not as much seeing colors when music is playing, but again an association. the key of b major with sound red, where as b minor may be a burgundy. most commonly this is associated with keys and not single notes, or neutral intervals like a fifth or octave - you need that third.
but there are others who have perfect pitch (the ability to intrinsically know what note is being played without any reference) paired with synesthesia who will see a single note as having color. one synesthete remarked as a child "i like that blue note," referring again to b.
which color is associated with which key is normally constant for each synesthete, but is not shared with other synesthetes. there is no evidence to show that the colors a synesthete sees have any direct corrolation with the corropsonding key/letter/etc outside his own association.
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Chodi
from 1337V1773 on 2009-10-24 00:28 [#02338883]
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Oh, this is not relevant to this subject but.. I'll be in my room and ill picture taking apart anything and everything (Taking things apart in my mind?) and very detailed to
I was wondering...is it common to do this?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-10-24 02:10 [#02338887]
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i just realized i have some kind of age synesthesia, let me prove it: are you under 20?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2009-10-24 04:07 [#02338889]
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I can taste some sounds, usually gives me a taste of rusted metal in my mouth or something.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-25 13:11 [#02339103]
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k, thanks for the extra info. A lot of it I already knew, but it has reinforced the fact that I am very unlikely to have synesthesia.
Darn it, lol
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RussellDust
on 2009-10-25 14:26 [#02339111]
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Wow, you really are the modest type!
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