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Cnut
from the future on 2009-09-18 21:49 [#02327959]
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we all know that lazy laptop IDM is really boring
and we know that it's REALLY COOL!!! to like electro these days. especially if you make out like you were always into it
but is it any less tired than the "post beatles" guitar. bass .drums combo that people so easily slag off for being played out?
Of course it's SUPER COOL to like Drexciya... especially because and they're black
but how many more pissweak rip offs of kraftwerks Numbers and Computer World and do we really need?
Do we really have to settle for the same old thing 30 years after this brilliant groundbreaking music existed.....?
AFX taught us with Analord that electro and acid music can evolve but it seems that nobody has grasped this fact
It's as if anything with an 808 in it is automatically good
don't you deserve more
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-18 21:51 [#02327960]
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witty reply
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-18 21:55 [#02327961]
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to be honest i mostly just listen to ambient music
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hexane
on 2009-09-18 22:06 [#02327962]
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what ambient do ya like
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-18 22:09 [#02327963]
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both kinds
85-92 and vol. ii
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hexane
on 2009-09-18 22:16 [#02327964]
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ah the best kinds then
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cwnt
on 2009-09-18 23:23 [#02327967]
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"we all know that lazy laptop IDM is really boring"
ye, that's why a&d revolution came about.
"and we know that it's REALLY COOL!!! to like electro these days. especially if you make out like you were always into it"
electro will always be great. cool or not cool is just a irrelevant hipster fashion argument.
"but is it any less tired than the "post beatles" guitar. bass .drums combo that people so easily slag off for being played out?"
every ac dc album is the same form, really simple form. and theyre one of the biggest selling bands of all time. the reason is, simple forms actually work really well. chasing novelty forms sounds good on paper or written in words but the actual music sucks (autechre hehe). ceephax proved to everyone that the "supposedly tired" acid forms were unexplored. the rule was that a 303 was boring and nothing else could be explored on it. truth was otherwise. bare simple forms actually offer more possibilities than autechre style.
"Of course it's SUPER COOL to like Drexciya... especially because and they're black"
hipster fashion argument.
"but how many more pissweak rip offs of kraftwerks Numbers and Computer World and do we really need? Do we really have to settle for the same old thing 30 years after this brilliant groundbreaking music existed.....?"
No, just try one of these artists:
+10 acid crew Acid Quiff Aphex Twin Amen Warrior Arnold “House” Dicá Automatic Tasty Chris Moss Acid Ceephax DMX Krew Dr Dinsync The Doubtful Guest Electrokinesia EOD Fah Florian Hecker Global Goon Greenbank Impakt Jodey Kendrick Luke Vibert Monolog X The Railway Raver retax gorgon Space Dimension Controller syntezatory.prv.pl Syntheme The Tusken Raver The Tuss Volxsound
"AFX taught us with Analord that electro and acid music can evolve but it seems that nobody has grasped this fact"
Not true.
"It's as if anything with an 808 in it is automatically good"
Hipster!!!!!!!!!
"don't you deserve more"
a
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cwnt
on 2009-09-18 23:26 [#02327968]
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&d
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-19 00:03 [#02327969]
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blah blah blah
LAZY_TITLE
imo this man has valid points. electronic music is far from dead.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-09-19 00:29 [#02327971]
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say a&d revolution again. i dare you motherfucker.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2009-09-19 00:37 [#02327972]
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I think its really good
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cwnt
on 2009-09-19 02:03 [#02327978]
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a& motherfucking samuel jackson cheeseburger d revolution
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-09-19 02:50 [#02327980]
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:D
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yoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2009-09-19 03:06 [#02327982]
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we need more music like this
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Mask 500
from now on 2009-09-19 03:39 [#02327986]
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Chris Moss Acid? Go back to watmm.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-19 04:27 [#02327992]
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The thing about "IDM" or "A&D" or whatever the kids are calling it this week, is that the bedroom aesthetic gives a lot of the listening population the idea that "this is easy, I can do this too", it's similar with stand-up comedy.
This messageboard has housed some of the bedroom artists that can make their own music without having to advertise that it "sounds Drexciya-esque" or that it is "inspired by Autechre", but also there are the artists that are happy to change a note in an Aphex song and add a ton of reverb and call it an "original piece".
And as the 44th generation "IDM"ers create their music for a genre which has never existed, some may break through and become Wisp, and become a frankly satirical epitome of the non-genre.
Beep Boop.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-19 05:34 [#02327998]
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You people think too much about really unimportant things.
It's music.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-19 05:56 [#02328001]
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I agree to a point, the music didn't seek me out. But there's too much imitation in the armchair electronics. But I only listen to Baroque, so what do I know.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-19 06:28 [#02328003]
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lol, imitation is pretty much the only thing you do when you try to make some music. rdj ran after his memories like any other, and volountarily or not he did music evoking some already done by others as well. i dunno about gear, but pls stop this originality bullshit you ain't fooling no one in here :)
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-19 10:20 [#02328035]
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I'm not actually in distress about "the state of electronic music", because there's not much in the way of comparison through the years (pick any decade and you'll find a different vogue being chased) and I don't believe there has ever been originality as such in anything, you build upon the ideas of those before you most of the time. What I said was imitation, and I meant absolute imitation; I enjoy Dynarec, but sometimes it feels as though it's going too far into the revelry of Drexciya, and essentially making Drexciya tracks. ly babs xxx
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-19 10:22 [#02328036]
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I'm also a giant vagina.
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-19 11:49 [#02328043]
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i always lol at hecker in that list. lol
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-19 11:54 [#02328047]
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"Of course it's SUPER COOL to like Drexciya... especially because and they're black"
:O What about black people, can they like Drexciya?
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-19 12:05 [#02328049]
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Bah! We will always be criticizing the state of things won't we?
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rad smiles
on 2009-09-19 12:09 [#02328050]
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yeah.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-09-19 12:26 [#02328051]
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most of you freaks are far behind
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-09-19 12:37 [#02328052]
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I LIKE STEAK
AND I LIKE WOMAN BRASTS
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-19 16:12 [#02328136]
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lol hi guys i'm sitting next to the main product designer of NI, who sits next to the guy who wrote Reaktor, and am surrounded by a bunch of NI Maschine interfaces, pizza boxes and beer bottles. In the next room there are developers of RJDJ, SoundCloud, echoNest and others. any zilty questions i could pass on?
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-19 16:24 [#02328137]
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rrrrrraaaaaaaaaggggghhhhh kill yhourselfs ANALOGUE FOREVEWR!!!!!!
tia
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-19 16:53 [#02328141]
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did you tell them yet
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-19 16:58 [#02328142]
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lol no. but i've talked to one NI guy about that 4/4->6/8 rhythm change in Cipater and he drummed it with his fingers on the table with a smile on his face. There's free pizza sponsored by Ableton, and some meganerds are trying to wrap SoundCloud into a vst plugin.
analog sucks.
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christ deburger
from helmans pr0vince (Afghanistan) on 2009-09-19 17:26 [#02328148]
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what the fuck has drexciya being black got anything to do with electronic music
my you are a cnut my advice to you clowns is, if you like something praise it, and talk about it, if you dont, then say nothing...... unless its about muse like i did the other night which is completely different, because he sings like a spoilt brat...
the difference between electronic music now and 15 yrs ago....is there more people doing it and you dont have to go to record shop or club to find out about something new, that doesn't mean that you cant find something you like out there, as drexciya said there is room for everyone
so chill out and use this board to discuss new music i reckon if you wanna talk shit there's a place for you over at watmms general banter
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-19 17:32 [#02328150]
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drexciya wasnt even really black they just pretended to be so internet nerds would think there cooler
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christ deburger
from helmans pr0vince (Afghanistan) on 2009-09-19 17:33 [#02328151]
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you sir are a nob
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-19 17:34 [#02328152]
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you are 2 nobs, rubbing aginst each other
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christ deburger
from helmans pr0vince (Afghanistan) on 2009-09-19 17:43 [#02328154]
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i almost laughed
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toby
from ^_^ (China) on 2009-09-19 20:16 [#02328187]
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808 is autogood but i want more analord
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-19 21:10 [#02328192]
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they are trying to start a fire
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cx
from Norway on 2009-09-19 21:27 [#02328193]
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i listen to what i like, i dont care about trends or 'the current state'
theres plenty of good tracks and albums out there. music should be less about intellectual thought and more about the listening experience
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taking_the_piz
on 2009-09-20 06:00 [#02328254]
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on the upside: drexciya has been mentioned in this thread downside: the rest of you nobs
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7Pd
from britney's upskirt vagina on 2009-09-20 16:52 [#02328358]
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cnut you should stick to eating poor billy goats
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-06-15 23:10 [#02435901]
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fatboy slim is the greatest
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2012-06-16 21:08 [#02435939]
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Electronic music is my favourite kind of music
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2012-06-16 21:09 [#02435940]
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Electronic music is my favourite kind of music
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-06-16 22:04 [#02435943]
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man, i'm glad we were told about A&D so early. it's really blown up, all the kids are talking about it nowadays.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-06-17 00:32 [#02435947]
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i can't tell if you're the chunky A&D guy or just mocking him
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-06-17 00:32 [#02435948]
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i have a prodigy song on now, "3 kilos" i recommend it
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-06-17 00:53 [#02435954]
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now i am listening to "jericho" by prodigy and the kick drum is making me have to poop.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-06-17 00:59 [#02435955]
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update update
now the lyrics in the next track on this album are literally "make me wanna SHIT"
and indeed it does. i'm drinking coffee too. gonna drop a deuce after the track ends
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2012-06-17 01:11 [#02435957]
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Dear EpicMegatrax, there is no bad Prodigy track.
Thanks, REcycle.
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