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hello welcome to Discover With Toby i am here to discuss but sry no avtar yet ha! |
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yesterday we talkd to clair from United States and she says that her father and mother were so bad to her. She told us that they sometimes told here she was not good enough and that her confidence drove her to comlpusive eating, ver ysad. she say perhaps people need to drive out the hate from every life and every day that people should fight only to love. today we discuss this and how to overcome sadness stop those that inflict on others. |
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just recieved email form Justin in uk he says:'btw toby keep it up you are good for us! yeah so i understand human evil, i really do. My dad used to sell video tapes of my playing naked with lego to peadophiles. i dont talk to him anymore. i say we need to kill all the bad guys i know youre with me toby!!! repect' haha yes i have email like this before Justin but isn killing only the answer to more kill? Justin you have experience with bad times and i see this. is justin right that bad people must be killed to defeat them and the sadness they bring to others? |
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I'm wondering who's duplicate account you are, and why you feel this should be discussed on a messageboard for electronic music. |
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hello Pulseclock. you are our first caller tonight what are your view on human sadness and how to Overcome? |
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My view is that with the current state of everything on the Earth, there is no need for useless actions that only hinder the thought process. I am concerned not with the way things are, but with the way things ought to be. At least in my mind. I cannot speak for others, and most others are not in a position to speak. The only thing that matters at this juncture is the preciousness of life, we are just wavelengths, forms of energy, evolving, revolving. No amount of happiness or sadness can change that. When emotions run wild, then so does life. |
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Goodnight TOBY_t |
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haha sry everybody i think first caller is troll. but even troll is welcome here with Toby! |
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new email recieved! shannon from uk (hello britain!) she says thi: 'Pulseclock is right! Its all just life and the only thing that matters is the preciousness of this one moment. Why live in anything other moment when it'll just bog you down?' yes i understand that this is good philosophy but perhaps it is the precious moment get destroyed for others so they live feeling sad forever. some have the preciousness of life taken fro them by cricumstacne or by bad people. not acceptable! how can we ensure that preciousness stay forever for more people out there? some are saying it would help to take away the bad people; less bad things done this way? or do we help the bad people become good inside as they are hurting also? |
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every action does not go unaccounted for. It's all adding up to something. People are victim of circumstance in this world that is operating because of scarcity. People that are abused, neglected, etc. are very unfortunate, yes. It is a sad thing, bad sadness is just as valuable as happiness, lessons are learned, people grow, or die. Life is a cycle that cannot be stopped, by anyone. If there is a God, it understands this concept and represents it, the only reason that "good" is around is because there is "bad" to counteract it. I feel good about discussing these things, as i am frustrated a lot, and feel like i am the source for much negativity around me, but i cannot stop what hapens to me, i cannot just let go of things, unless i am in the right setting. Enough about me. Let's continue with this charade. |
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*but sadness |
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very interesting pulseclock. Pulseclock tells us his view on life, very detailed. he says to us that life and its up and down is natural and part of larger cycle that must be accepted. but i feel too many fall between the crack and too many bad poeple survive this system. perhaps this idea is too wide and does not sympathise for smaller sadness nor how to overcome this. pulseclock do we not need to struggl against this way you tell us? do we simply accept that things are bad forever? is improvment of human sociiety so futile? |
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don't just accept anything, but know the things that create the current conditions of our world. Knowledge has a lot to do with why things happen. A lot of bad people are just faulty because of their environments, like the analogy about the rotten apple in the bunch. in the present society, yes it seems to be futile. The world of today is running just well enough to be seens as "O.K." Really bad stuff happens all the time, and "O.K." stuff happens everday. Really good stuff happens a lot too. I don't know, i could talk about this for a while. I just know that i do what i can to get by. I try to help others, but i don't like to over extend myself a lot. |
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wtf |
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dude im never sure what youre saying. @ toby: i think life works this way: we all feel, if we get hurt we become complex and motivated in a destructive way. others are then affected by this and the hurt carries on this way and can build up into awful things. if everyone was stronger about hurt and pain itself then the human world would be comfortable. i dont think this can actually happen tho |
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dude im not even sure what im saying. haha. im just gonna lurk and drop some music |
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Hello we are back and with lots of good topics to discuss. last time we talk to xltronic to find views on human suffering and how to overcome. Pulseclock told us that life is as it is, and acceptance of this meaning of life. but we still have yet to find an answer for all the lost souls out there. many suffer while we beat around the bush. Not acceptable! haha now we must find true goodness in things, we know it is there for us. i am here to help! |
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A mpi Max tells us that life is problem becuase of hurt and if we learnt to face realities and deal with hurt instead of comfort lies we could develope and help eachother. i feel that pain and suffering even if very small is the motivate behind all bad things. rapist will rape to recover power lost in youth, evil politican will lie to keep money which he use to 'heal' his old sadness. does pain motivate us all? |
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Maybe those who want to bring suffering/pain into someone elses life, do it because they themselves were neglected of love. All these people need is a good cry and an arm around them, then maybe they can learn how to love too. If not, lets get em down the organ donor factory. Fuckin inbreds. |
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haha hello mdgiest. he tells us that the power of human affection and care may help to revive unhappy wonderer. but in the case of sadist who is content only when inflicting how do you hug this man? his problem is so deep and so old it cannot be solved with simple kindness. what if he is lost cause, do we prison him? md giest because of question raised earlier do you feel that all human even those who feel 'happy' are motivated by fears and old hurt feelings? this is what drives the world around? |
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Hmm. Just for the record, I dont believe in the death penalty, or necessarily prison as we know it. I was just making a lol. I think you have a point, and that even acts of kindness and selflessness probably are motivated only from learnt past experiences that hurt. I think the real problem here is the society which we have built for ourselves, which has taken human simplicity, and socially made it incredibly overcomplicated. Then, in the authorities effort to try to simplify everything again, crrating a kind of peverse lego land, we see that this cannot be done, becuase the advancements in technology/crack/laying tarmac over beautiful green grass etc. has confuzzled our minds. I blame the mainstream media/rockerfeller family/illuminati/alien colonisers. I like to believe that fundamentally, all people want to be 'good', but that misguided education + strange peer culture influenced by mainstream media & ignorance + other things inflicted on us by government, have fucked it all up. Shit, I dont know. I need to get my sausage rolls out the oven. |
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very intersting md giest. you are favoured by my touch of acceptance ;D NEW EMAILS: anon from Norway says :"please forget about sausage rolls, animals die to make it and they have feelings too. thx toby!" haha ok so now we are getting somewhere now that we further understand ourselve. here is a song reccomended by Thiago from brazil connect to youtube. he say it mean everything to him and this topic inspire him even further. keep on the love Thiago, good times! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1x0PSEayXE |
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k :D time for short quiz: Harold Bishop was classic man from Neighbours. OH harold you are always so silly getting muddle by the youngsters. but which year did he develope gay relationship with lou? a- never gay b- lou was bottom c- haroooold you dog! we'll be back later to discuss further the great healing of humanity!! |
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when harold bishop tries to impress a girl, he becomes overwhelmed at the possibility of having sex with this young teenager that he suffers a heart attack and dies |
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I think I love you TOBY_t. How can I know for sure? |
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