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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-04-02 07:37 [#00154571]
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Another crusade from the french censure committy. they go now fighting against... GTa3.
Once again, videogams are taken responsible for all violence and brutality of youth people...
what do yu think about violence and videogames?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-02 07:42 [#00154576]
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this is an old argument...
personaly, i think kids use these to vent any voilence... instead of acting out their fantasies on others...
also, the world hasn't seem violent videogames untill i'm done with my education and start my own gaming co. i'm plaining on some wicked shite...like a realistic gta3ish rpg where you're a NY serial killer...
that's just the tip of the iceburg...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-02 07:44 [#00154577]
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damn you guys...now i'm typing shite...i've never even heard of that word untill i started hanging out here...
and i wasn't even looking at the screen...i always look at the keyboard while i type...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-02 07:52 [#00154587]
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I remember when Mortal Kombat came out a loooong time ago in the arcades. I was just a wee little lad... I thought it was SO fucking cool when Sub Zero would rip people's heads off and you could see their spinal cord hanging down with blood dripping everywhere...
But it hasn't desensitized me to violence... I can't look at gory pictures (like at Rotten.com) without getting terrified and running to get a hug from my mommy.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-04-02 07:55 [#00154588]
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In the first place I'm against violence in videoclips,for example d12 and rammstein,are bad influence.
video's like that should be forbidden under 16 or something...
I'm talking the video's here,not the music
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-02 07:56 [#00154590]
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yeah, mk really started the whole cencorship of vgames...doom, and quake were good at it too...
i used to love MK, but once trilogoy came out...it all whent to hell...
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-04-02 08:00 [#00154591]
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I love blowing up cops in GTA3...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-02 08:12 [#00154603]
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i've played many a violent game...yet have commited none a violent act...
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-04-02 08:41 [#00154639]
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If someone plays a game and then acts out a form of violence out in the real world then there is something really wrong with them.
I love killing people and the police in the GTA games but in real life I'm a wimp and I run at first sign of blood!
I can't look at rotten.com but I love doing all manner of violent things in games. How many people that really acted out violence from games or movies already had some problem (perhaps a mental problem? That cause's them not to know a difference from real and fake? I don't know about these things...)
When will people learn!!
I think people feel better to blame the violence of something solid and videogames are an easy target.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 08:48 [#00154648]
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Setting people on fire with the flamethrower is good fun!
Grand Theft Auto 3 - never has there been such a good mix of violence and video games!
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-02 08:54 [#00154655]
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Got Carmageddon to thank for that shit boy! I still kinda prefer GTA 1 on the PC. All the glitches made it really fun. GTA 3 is v good tho.
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-04-02 08:57 [#00154659]
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A few months ago here they took GTA3 off sale! This is so stupid:
In Australia there is no R rating for games.
GTA3 was deemed an R game...
HANG ON! That doesnt make sense! So of course they done the smart thing and brang in the R rating.... NO!!!! After it being sold for a few weeks they banned it then later released a cut down version rated MA!
Though I've heard the cut's arent that big... still why can't we have an R rating!!! We get 18+ games from Brittan!
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-04-02 08:57 [#00154660]
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bang a hooker then kill her and take all her money get life doing it wow GTAIII and the talk radio an d everything violent radio like real radio all that shitty music shitty music is a violence against the senses blame radio not viddigames
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 08:58 [#00154663]
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Carmageddon was good - nothing like a nice casual Sunday afternoon drive, running down pedestrians!!!
*evil laugh*
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-02 09:03 [#00154667]
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They had cool radio songs on GTA 1 and 2. There was one about oral sex on GTA 1 "Four letter love"! It was hillarious!
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-04-02 14:54 [#00154865]
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Super Mario is a cruel game, it features Mario who jumps on animals until they die and it promotes consumption of magic mushrooms...
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-02 14:59 [#00154870]
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I love blowing people up in computer games. I've been doing it all my life, but im not a serial killer. Its just scapegoating IMO.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-02 15:06 [#00154874]
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these people should realize: videogames have only really been around for 30 years or so. violence has been around for.. hmmm.. lets see... FOREVER?
we have all grown up with videogames. when we were kids, we wanted games with cute characters squishing other cute characters. but now we are adults. we want games with big menacing characters violently dismembering other big menacing characters. little kiddies should not be playing GTA3 without parental supervision anyway.
the games are not responsible. its mum and daddy who should be held accountable. people are just upset that they cant have the PS2 babysit their kids anymore.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 15:07 [#00154875]
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It's better to do it in a computer game rather than real life!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-02 15:10 [#00154879]
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well stated J Chris!
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 15:15 [#00154883]
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When I come home from a hard days work - I find it really relaxing to kill a few people, console style!!!!
It helps to keep me stress free!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-02 15:17 [#00154885]
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me too, sometimes i would just go around killing as many cops as i could before getting busted.
i wonder if there any cops that are fans of the GTA series?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 15:27 [#00154892]
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That would be interesting to find out! I'm sure however there are loads of people who despise these types of games, but they're harmless fun!
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-02 15:34 [#00154899]
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You know, it's really ridiculous that video games get blamed for being influential when there are so many more subversive things out there. I mean, look at MTV. IT's brainwashed an entire generation to think that Linkin Park is the future of music
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-02 15:38 [#00154905]
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lol I listen to this 'alternative' radio station when i'm at work all day. after about a month, i hate to admit, i kinda like LInkin Pork
its just that everything else they play is soooooo awful; when a LinkIn Pork song comes on im like "alright! a song that sux ass instead of sucking ballz!"
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 15:43 [#00154909]
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It's clever marketing thats all....
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-02 15:47 [#00154911]
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yeah once you learn the words to any song, you start to like it more.
this is how daft punk and prodigy got so popular. (and fat boy slim, and moby, and chemical brothers...)
oh and... uh... i like violent video games (just to stay on topic)
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-02 15:55 [#00154917]
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here is a story that is somewhat related to the topic.
It seems no one (in the USA at least) wants to accept responsibility for their own goddamn actions. Instead they have to blame or sue someone else.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 16:04 [#00154923]
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Wow - I can't believe that woman is actually gonna sue Sony!
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-02 16:12 [#00154928]
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That's the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. I mean, by that logic, I should sue Time Warner for making TV so addictive, addictive enough that the average american has their tv on 7 hours a day. Maybe they should put warning labels on televisions now. Or how about this. I'll sue god for making masturbation so addictive and for giving me a right hand. . . .
uh, just forget I wrote that.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 16:18 [#00154935]
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Don't get me wrong about America, but it does seem that there are more people there who'll sue for anything, rather than blame themselves. I almost get the impression that if you give someone the wrong kinda look, they could probably sue you in America. I'm glad it's not that bad here - yet I suspect we're not that far behind sadly!
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-02 16:22 [#00154938]
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It really is bad here. Some woman won something like 5 million dollars from McDOnalds because she spilled hot coffee on herself. We basically have no values here. Words don't really mean anything, they're just tools to get what you want, real sophistry.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 16:25 [#00154943]
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Let me guess the coffee was too hot - then again, she would've sued if it had been cold too!!
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-02 16:27 [#00154946]
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hehe Yeah, they actually had to start putting labels all over the drive-thru windows after that "warning. contents of coffee are hot"
God, we americans are such idiots some times
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 16:37 [#00154961]
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A hot cup of coffee being hot ... what is the world coming to??
The next thing that will happen is that you'll get signs at the bus stop saying 'Don't stand in the road or you'll get run over!!'
....or do they exist!! :)
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-02 16:46 [#00154974]
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Not yet. Emphasis on the word YET. You know, I guess in London an the UK they do have the Look Left, and Look Right painted on the ground. THat's probably for all the stupid americans who get confused by things like that. and the metric system
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mingebinge
from Milton Keynes (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-02 17:00 [#00154982]
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People are violent because living in this consumerist oppresive society is shit. Every aspect of our information (school, media, etc.) is designed to control our minds for their purpose, and that is usually to make money. We are all well and truly pissed off that thinking for yourself is a a strenuous and difficult exercise, and our only way to fight back and show our power and hatred for the system that keeps us down is to stoop to their methods - violence. Video games may provide some inspiration or self indulgence, but have dick all to do with the cause of our unrest...
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-04-02 17:15 [#00155001]
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Violence in computer games like GTA is a bit Hypocrytical, IMHO, see, in most games you kill the bad guys (who are human looking like sprites, etc.), and nobody gives a shit.
But if someone would make a game where you have to fly a plane into a virtual recreation of the WTC, that would be considered RASISTIC or ANTI AMERICAN. Why ? Isnt all human life equeal ? Obviously not in Video Games & Movies other media.....
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-02 17:33 [#00155029]
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i'm sure that there are people all over the world who would sue for anything. there are just more lawyers in america so americans have the means to sue. and lawyers are often quite affordable here.
and speaking of warning labels, they should have to put warning labels on mcdonalds hamburgers that say, "eating beef causes stomach cancer and heart disease." have you ever seen a carotid plaq? if you eat too much beef you will; when they have to surgically remove it from your carotid artery.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-02 18:55 [#00155137]
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violence in video games or any media may possibly enforce or amplify vilent tendancies, but they don't cause a person to be violent. there are plenty of people who are mature enough to handle exposure to violent media without being turned into a violent person.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 19:47 [#00155194]
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Well said...
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-04-02 19:58 [#00155215]
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Censure committy needs only responsible. i don't know if it have ben seen on other tv but france, violence and insecurity seem growing here.
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-04-02 20:33 [#00155250]
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i like the fact of violence in videogames
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 20:41 [#00155254]
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You could even argue that some video games are just reflecting what modern-day society is actually like. I'm sure there are some cities in America which are very similar to those depicted in GTA3.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-02 20:48 [#00155259]
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It feels good to splatter people into mush with rocket launchers in Perfect Dark...
But in real life, I'd be afraid just to punch someone in the face... I can't stand to look at swollen eyes and broken noses.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-04-02 21:06 [#00155267]
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Elvis was cool in Perfect Dark - I allways thought it was unfair if an opponent had him because he was waist high!
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-04-03 14:17 [#00156270]
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There's violence or rude language in videogames but no sex (or hidden/
suggested, like in Max payne or kingpin). Have yu ever seen soft sex or erotism in any games for the last 5 years?
do yu think it could be a bonus for games to have soft sex scene it it?
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