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diamondtron
on 2009-08-04 13:44 [#02312243]
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mp3's are convenient and most people listen to them most often but that doesnt make them better than any other format in any way, what does it mean?
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stoz
on 2009-08-04 13:49 [#02312244]
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i spose i listen to mp3s most, but i get sort of ADD with them - i can never listen to a tune for more than a couple of minutes without swapping onto something else, something shinier. for me u still cant beat whacking on a cd / vinyl and just letting the darn thing play right through. as well as the lovely sound u get u can also stick a vinyl on +2 . some tunes just sound better sped up a bit; listening to the mp3 at normal speed just aint the same.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-08-04 15:07 [#02312255]
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what he said
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-08-04 15:37 [#02312267]
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almost 100% mp3 just for the convenience. i still buy cds and vinyl, but always rip them to mp3 for listening.
quality wise, they're the worst, but its nominal at best and for 99% of situations, it doesn't matter.
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-08-04 16:01 [#02312274]
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mp3s most often but vinyl daily..... NEVER CDs! HARDCORE vinyls 4eva meng!
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-08-04 16:02 [#02312275]
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also vinyl is the highest quality out of any of them because it's an analogue format. like analogue hardware and tape recorders. this is a fact!
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-08-04 16:48 [#02312280]
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at what sample rate and bit depth would digital audio be prefered to analogue
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-08-04 16:49 [#02312281]
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in terms of quality
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-08-04 17:13 [#02312284]
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yeah analog tv and phones also are naturally better than digital ones, because they're analog.
wrist watches too... analog is analog is analog, and therefore better.
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stoz
on 2009-08-04 17:19 [#02312286]
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analog tv for sport / music such as glasto is way better. sound for music on analog tv is lots better.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-08-04 17:22 [#02312287]
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yeah. analog!
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stoz
on 2009-08-04 17:38 [#02312292]
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When it comes to all new shiny, digital technlogy im not convinced that ITS THE FUTURE!!! like we're made to believe. everywhere we're made to feel that we need to remain at the cutting edge of technology. Im not so sure. I still listen to vinyl. We have a CRT tv which does everything we need it to and will outlast a LCD tv. I still watch Analog TV for sport + music, as mentioned. HD tvs are now coming with a type of technology to cut out the blur you get when you watch sport on them. Imagine how ud feel if you'd shelled out for a HD tv to find its bad for watching sport on and that the newer ones come with a technology that corrects it!
MY current XP laptop is great and does everything i want. it runs like the swiss train system. ive no desire to upgrade and get vista (full of problems) or 64 bit (really dont need that much power for web / audio). My fucking panasonic digibox randomly and frequently crashes for no reason. I feel like I want to get off the technology train; im perfectly happy where I am. Besides, who can afford to keep up with the reams of digital HD tv oriented shit they keep bringing out. Blu ray players will be rendered obsolete in a few years by on-demand hi def downloads anyway. This has turned into a bit of a rant, and probably makes me sound technophobic and decrepit, but its the not the case at all. I'm merely technosceptic. Don't believe everything you read. Analog!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2009-08-04 17:57 [#02312300]
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It'd be better to get the musician/band/orchestra/singer to play in your room if you're seriously after purity. Most people can't afford that so they just love the music as they can get it.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-08-04 18:25 [#02312302]
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I whack my Graphic Equalizer up to 11 to increase the graphics.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2009-08-04 18:37 [#02312304]
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Exactly! My monitor is on 11 contrast and 11 colour. It's acidic 24/7.
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diamondtron
on 2009-08-05 02:18 [#02312330]
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this particular pole is like saying, who do you shag more, rent boys, filthy old minggers or gorgeous models
most people will reply filthy old minggers with an occasional bit of the others
is it better to shag mingers all the time or aimpregnate a gorgeous model just once
i.e. counterproductive poll vinyl will get phased out coz its oil based etc cd's should be gone already apart from cdr mp3 will continue to blow up large style great for kids to learn about music but also crap for the quality of the future in another way, just like the internet is amazing but also globally removes those special irreplaceable feelings e.g when someone used to record a cassette for their friend
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2009-08-05 04:27 [#02312333]
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convenience = MP3 everything else = vinyl
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-08-05 04:52 [#02312334]
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i hate to be mean (well that's not true, i love it, really), but this debate has gone awfully stale and is quite meaningless.
No matter how much we long for the good old days, the fact is that mp3 has taken over and that cds, tapes and vinyls are things to be collected and played every once in a while for purist/audiophile or nostalgia reasons.
there are good and bad things to be said for each format and this also makes it a very subjective issue. Personally i like tapes, vinyls, cds and mp3s and wouldn't want to miss any of them regardless of audio quality or convenience.
lazy nostalgia
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2009-08-05 07:08 [#02312353]
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mp3s by lonesome
vinyls when rare/old friends are over visiting (special occasion)
that way, not just blasting through 100songs in 5 minutes. and the friend gets to choose the musics
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-08-05 07:31 [#02312359]
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aphex, squarepusher, ceephax, or autechre! take your pick guests
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-08-05 07:43 [#02312360]
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xactly.
also popular music the way we knew it is gone forever. there just won't be any 'real' pop superstars like Jackson or Nirvana anymore. The last one was probably Robbie Williams, it's not possible in our frayed out society. the idea that music itself is degenerating is bollocks though, there is just less public consens on what's the hot stuff, actually a lot of great music coming out.
the next logical step is that mp3s disappear, they will merge with other media, we're seeing this already (youtube, last.fm....)
i always like the analogy (huhuh) of the cd player being nothing more than a turntable simulator, with just a little added convenience by its digital capabilities (skipping songs, programming playing order...). Our current mp3 softwares/pmp's again are cd player simulators with just a little bit more digital convenience.
now, skimming through huge libraries of mp3 files is actually quite cumbersome isn't it? i believe that as portable (media) devices are a *massive* industry nowadays, and the whole entertainment industry trying desperately to adapt to new technologies, we'll soon have something where music is contextually linked (basically advanced tagging: i.e. the drummer here has had this other band, so they are linked, and in the same year this and that came out, so this is linked too etc...) and doesn't have to be collected anymore to have access to it. Pandora is a truly digital though primitive music player, winamp is not.
etc.etc.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-08-05 07:57 [#02312362]
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and this is about recordings only. the whole popular music thing was about *recordings* of people making music. discrete artifacts of time, put into a package you could touch, that could be part of your daily life, you could pass on to a friend, leave scratches/fingerprints on.
digital media doesn't have that. it's perfectly cloneable, copying is the wrong term. the other strength of digital is that it's in discrete units that are totally re-codeable in any sense. So actually we are heavily defying the characteristics of digital data by trying to just collect and conserve stuff (for example: recording music, then playing it). This is the same as at the beginning of photography, people took only portrait photos. The content that was possible on film only, it had not been figured out yet, so photographers simulated what portrait painters had done. Depicting stuff. Painting was now free from that, and after a while photographs became their own medium with their own content. This is happening with digital right now. Simply recorded music = past. immersive, non-obstrusive, dynamic digital synaesthetic environments = future.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2009-08-05 14:10 [#02312427]
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there will be more good pop.
all this "end of the world" talk in music has been done many times before.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2009-08-05 14:31 [#02312430]
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Hard media has had it's day and is vitaly important historically for the second half of the 20th century. But unfortunatly record, video, video game stores are all going to dissapear. Live performance and Cinema presentations are the way of the 21st century.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-08-05 15:15 [#02312444]
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*its
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2009-08-05 15:43 [#02312453]
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does a missing apostraphe really matter in the grand scheme of things? no, no it doesnt, not in the fucking slightest, its not even as if it makes the post remotely unclear. jog on you snotty little gimp
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