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Vinyl vs CD vs mp3: Which format do you listen more often?
 

offline diamondtron on 2009-08-04 13:44 [#02312243]
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mp3's are convenient and most people listen to them most
often but that doesnt make them better than any other format
in any way, what does it mean?


 

offline stoz on 2009-08-04 13:49 [#02312244]
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i spose i listen to mp3s most, but i get sort of ADD with
them - i can never listen to a tune for more than a couple
of minutes without swapping onto something else, something
shinier. for me u still cant beat whacking on a cd / vinyl
and just letting the darn thing play right through. as well
as the lovely sound u get u can also stick a vinyl on +2 .
some tunes just sound better sped up a bit; listening to the
mp3 at normal speed just aint the same.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-08-04 15:07 [#02312255]
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what he said


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-08-04 15:37 [#02312267]
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almost 100% mp3 just for the convenience. i still buy cds
and vinyl, but always rip them to mp3 for listening.

quality wise, they're the worst, but its nominal at best and
for 99% of situations, it doesn't matter.


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-08-04 16:01 [#02312274]
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mp3s most often but vinyl daily..... NEVER CDs! HARDCORE
vinyls 4eva meng!


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-08-04 16:02 [#02312275]
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also vinyl is the highest quality out of any of them because
it's an analogue format. like analogue hardware and tape
recorders. this is a fact!


 

offline MetallicaDude from the stazhole on 2009-08-04 16:48 [#02312280]
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at what sample rate and bit depth would digital audio be
prefered to analogue


 

offline MetallicaDude from the stazhole on 2009-08-04 16:49 [#02312281]
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in terms of quality


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2009-08-04 17:13 [#02312284]
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yeah analog tv and phones also are naturally better than
digital ones, because they're analog.
wrist watches too... analog is analog is analog, and
therefore better.



 

offline stoz on 2009-08-04 17:19 [#02312286]
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analog tv for sport / music such as glasto is way better.
sound for music on analog tv is lots better.


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2009-08-04 17:22 [#02312287]
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yeah. analog!


 

offline stoz on 2009-08-04 17:38 [#02312292]
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When it comes to all new shiny, digital technlogy im not
convinced that ITS THE FUTURE!!! like we're made to believe.
everywhere we're made to feel that we need to remain at the
cutting edge of technology. Im not so sure. I still listen
to vinyl. We have a CRT tv which does everything we need it
to and will outlast a LCD tv. I still watch Analog TV for
sport + music, as mentioned. HD tvs are now coming with a
type of technology to cut out the blur you get when you
watch sport on them. Imagine how ud feel if you'd shelled
out for a HD tv to find its bad for watching sport on and
that the newer ones come with a technology that corrects
it!

MY current XP laptop is great and does everything i want. it
runs like the swiss train system. ive no desire to upgrade
and get vista (full of problems) or 64 bit (really dont need
that much power for web / audio). My fucking panasonic
digibox randomly and frequently crashes for no reason. I
feel like I want to get off the technology train; im
perfectly happy where I am. Besides, who can afford to keep
up with the reams of digital HD tv oriented shit they keep
bringing out. Blu ray players will be rendered obsolete in a
few years by on-demand hi def downloads anyway. This has
turned into a bit of a rant, and probably makes me sound
technophobic and decrepit, but its the not the case at all.
I'm merely technosceptic. Don't believe everything you read.
Analog!


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2009-08-04 17:57 [#02312300]
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It'd be better to get the musician/band/orchestra/singer to
play in your room if you're seriously after purity. Most
people can't afford that so they just love the music as they
can get it.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-08-04 18:25 [#02312302]
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I whack my Graphic Equalizer up to 11 to increase the
graphics.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2009-08-04 18:37 [#02312304]
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Exactly! My monitor is on 11 contrast and 11 colour. It's
acidic 24/7.


 

offline diamondtron on 2009-08-05 02:18 [#02312330]
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this particular pole is like saying, who do you shag more,
rent boys, filthy old minggers or gorgeous models
most people will reply filthy old minggers with an
occasional bit of the others
is it better to shag mingers all the time or aimpregnate a
gorgeous model just once
i.e. counterproductive poll
vinyl will get phased out coz its oil based etc
cd's should be gone already apart from cdr
mp3 will continue to blow up large style
great for kids to learn about music
but also crap for the quality of the future in another way,
just like the internet is amazing but also globally removes
those special irreplaceable feelings e.g when someone used
to record a cassette for their friend


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2009-08-05 04:27 [#02312333]
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convenience = MP3
everything else = vinyl


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-08-05 04:52 [#02312334]
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i hate to be mean (well that's not true, i love it, really),
but this debate has gone awfully stale and is quite
meaningless.

No matter how much we long for the good old days, the fact
is that mp3 has taken over and that cds, tapes and vinyls
are things to be collected and played every once in a while
for purist/audiophile or nostalgia reasons.

there are good and bad things to be said for each format and
this also makes it a very subjective issue. Personally i
like tapes, vinyls, cds and mp3s and wouldn't want to miss
any of them regardless of audio quality or convenience.

lazy nostalgia


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2009-08-05 07:08 [#02312353]
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mp3s by lonesome

vinyls when rare/old friends are over visiting (special
occasion)

that way, not just blasting through 100songs in 5 minutes.
and the friend gets to choose the musics


 

offline MetallicaDude from the stazhole on 2009-08-05 07:31 [#02312359]
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aphex, squarepusher, ceephax, or autechre! take your pick
guests


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2009-08-05 07:43 [#02312360]
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xactly.

also popular music the way we knew it is gone forever. there
just won't be any 'real' pop superstars like Jackson or
Nirvana anymore. The last one was probably Robbie Williams,
it's not possible in our frayed out society. the idea that
music itself is degenerating is bollocks though, there is
just less public consens on what's the hot stuff, actually a
lot of great music coming out.

the next logical step is that mp3s disappear, they will
merge with other media, we're seeing this already (youtube,
last.fm....)

i always like the analogy (huhuh) of the cd player being
nothing more than a turntable simulator, with just a little
added convenience by its digital capabilities (skipping
songs, programming playing order...). Our current mp3
softwares/pmp's again are cd player simulators with just a
little bit more digital convenience.
now, skimming through huge libraries of mp3 files is
actually quite cumbersome isn't it? i believe that as
portable (media) devices are a *massive* industry nowadays,
and the whole entertainment industry trying desperately to
adapt to new technologies, we'll soon have something where
music is contextually linked (basically advanced tagging:
i.e. the drummer here has had this other band, so they are
linked, and in the same year this and that came out, so this
is linked too etc...) and doesn't have to be collected
anymore to have access to it. Pandora is a truly digital
though primitive music player, winamp is not.

etc.etc.


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2009-08-05 07:57 [#02312362]
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and this is about recordings only. the whole popular music
thing was about *recordings* of people making music.
discrete artifacts of time, put into a package you could
touch, that could be part of your daily life, you could pass
on to a friend, leave scratches/fingerprints on.

digital media doesn't have that. it's perfectly cloneable,
copying is the wrong term. the other strength of digital is
that it's in discrete units that are totally re-codeable in
any sense. So actually we are heavily defying the
characteristics of digital data by trying to just collect
and conserve stuff (for example: recording music, then
playing it). This is the same as at the beginning of
photography, people took only portrait photos. The content
that was possible on film only, it had not been figured out
yet, so photographers simulated what portrait painters had
done. Depicting stuff. Painting was now free from that, and
after a while photographs became their own medium with their
own content. This is happening with digital right now.
Simply recorded music = past. immersive, non-obstrusive,
dynamic digital synaesthetic environments = future.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2009-08-05 14:10 [#02312427]
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there will be more good pop.

all this "end of the world" talk in music has been done many
times before.



 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2009-08-05 14:31 [#02312430]
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Hard media has had it's day and is vitaly important
historically for the second half of the 20th century. But
unfortunatly record, video, video game stores are all going
to dissapear. Live performance and Cinema presentations are
the way of the 21st century.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-08-05 15:15 [#02312444]
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*its


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2009-08-05 15:43 [#02312453]
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does a missing apostraphe really matter in the grand scheme
of things? no, no it doesnt, not in the fucking slightest,
its not even as if it makes the post remotely unclear. jog
on you snotty little gimp


 


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