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Has appeared on the torrent sites. I thought duke nukem forever would appear first. . . |
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samples sounded pretty nice. I really hope people have the decency not to torrent the shit out of it this time around. I'm thinking about buying it just because of what happened last time to the poor guy. |
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The only things I've heard of Jega have been so-so at best, what's the hooha? |
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Geometry is a classic. His other stuff has been... well. Its ok. I want another geometry tho. |
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I've only heard geometry but I liked it. He has other albums? |
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its kind of like geometry 2 in places |
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the disc 2 will be AWESOME I heard from a friend of a friend that the version leaked years ago was a lot more raw fresh and hardcore though. |
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party like it's 2004 |
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it sounds ok. Jega is generally mediocre, but there are a couple nice tunes on disc 1. Disc 2 did not fare well on first listen. |
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damn! i thought you would like those types of tracks on disc 2.. you bored of idm? |
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haha well it was a first listen but my overall reaction was that they were a bunch of messy flavorless tunes with a lot of beat stretching and very little of interest going on melody/ambient wise in the background. (talkin disc 2 here). Disc 1 was just ok. I'm not bored of IDM per say, but the new releases have been in a sorry state for awhile. Looking forward to that ae/blackdog release though, that sounds fantastic from the samples |
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Chromadynamic had one really nice bit in the middle though |
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In a word, poor. Two words? Piss poor. Three? Piss pants poor. |
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I want my 173 megabytes back. |
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That bad?! Oh well... |
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This is much better than I thought when I first listened. |
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i really don't like it at all. first disc is ok, but the second is unlistenable... god i hate idm. |
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g-a-m-e-o-v-e-r |
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the album sounds about 10 years old. what a shame |
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I have not heard this album yet, but the mix that was played on Mary Ann Hobbes a few months back was very good IMO. I assume that those were all tracks from Disc 1 though. |
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the mix is excellent. sad to hear early reviews. wait and see myself |
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i did not like it, at all |
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i just dont understand whats wrong with it.. when i hear it all i hear are great beautiful sounds and nice dense arrangements.. if its played loud its especially effective i know its not the most groundbreaking album, but wtf is wrong with some nostalgia for the old geometry days? the only thing i have to critique off the bat is that there shouldnt be vocal samples on some of disc 2.. |
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I guess in order to be nostalgic for his Geometry album, you had to like it to begin with. I listened to it a few times back in the day and thought it was just alright. There's a pretty long list of "second tier" IDM artists that I'd put well ahead of Jega. I'm listening to Disc 1 of this right now and again, it's not bad. He does a good job emulating BoC with "Sakura," and some other nice moments. |
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Here it comes... When i hear it i hear one and the same slab of sound... in terms of repetition, in terms of composition, in terms of sample usage. It just bores me to have to listen to one CD full of the same kinds of chord progressions, same samples, same delay effect on every single drumhit, same track beginnings, same track endings, etc etc. When i heard track 4, i thought "the fuck? This track is fucking long" and i noticed i was at track 4 already. Hounestly, i completely missed the """"Variance""""! But i have to admit, there are indeed some lovely bits here and there, but they were just bits, the rest is just uninteresting to me. Then came CD 2... It started out quite alright if i have to be hounest, but after two tracks after Tensor i already had enough of the random sounds thrown together and 'odd chords' just to make things sound weird or something i dunno, i've heard too many of the reverb effects already, but i kept listening on. Now Cascade Decoherence is nice! I like more what happens on the background, but again it has the same delay and reverb effects slapped all over the individual beat hits like yoghurt thrown onto a spike mat. But i liked this one. Then came Aerodynamic, which again started out well... At the 13th time i've heard both those 8 bit bleeps fade in and fade out at the exact same spot, i kind of got annoyed. It was around this time someone on SLSK showed me a bit on youtube which had, i guess, the previous version of this track, which made me outraged... The youtube sounded fantastic! He fucked this reprise up badly imo :( That's where i stopped and skipped through the last four tracks, which were exactly the same fashion, only a slightly higher BPM on every track towards the end of the album. I might listen to this again later, but really, i hardly have had an album that really annoys me in all different ways, so i feel this release is very close to the bin for me. |
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..i just know someone out there is, again, brewing me the "are you fucking deaf" kind of reply, or "you use the same roland beats over and over again" bullshit, but let me tell you there's a difference between repeating and overusing. I usually pick the roland drummachines because they fit the sound and mood of whatever i am making at that moment, or they are a good 'replacement' kind of beats, kind of like a pilot episode, that i can build 'the final beat' from. I don't pick them because last time i made them sound so good with a tight delay/retrigger effect that i'll use it again on another track. I don't use effects of any kind because they just sounded weird/good/heavy, i use effects where i personally feel they belong. They emphasise the mood or feeling of the track i'm working on, personally of course. With this album, i frankly feel like every effect has just been thrown in there because they sound cool and stringy and weird and out of this world and technical. You could say i don't get Jega's style (which i might), but how can you tell me how to pick up someone's music? I think i'm just rather tired of this type of stuff, and am just harder to please than other people, when it comes to music. I'm not hard at all to please, just harder. Thank you. |
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Give it more days and more listens. I like it a lot now. It was just a little jarring at first because it has such an early 00s sound and aesthetic. |
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Fah, I wasn't going to say any of those things! I've been toying with the idea that there are two kind of receptions in listeners to this type of music. And by this I mean music oriented around timbre, sound, quality of sound and so forth. I see this music as a subgenre of sound music, where the focus isn't on melody, or even rhythm, it's on just abstract sounds. And I have noticed from many people that some people love it, and other people usually comment on the lack of melody, rhythm and that it's not a full song or even musical.. When you call this music "standard IDM" you are not really explaining it fully. There is something about the aesthetics of pure sound that people don't seem to like, and i guess this is just because they haven't come to a conscious conclusion and an emotional affirmation that they love it and 'get it' I feel that there is basically 3 types of songs. Percussive, ambient and melodic. Jega's album is very percussive, and some ambient, and I guess that's harder for some people to like than melodic, or even ambient. |
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That's the thing, i didn't say it's standard IDM, and i explained fully what i didn't like about while listening to ALL aspects of this album, and i know why some people like it, and why some won't. I'm not out on comparing my opinions with others or anything... I was thinking quite the same thing as you did, with the 3 types of songs, though there are probably some more but that is really more personally assigned, and believe me if i said that i like all kinds of songs. Hell, i can sit through KTPA 1 and 2 entirely while doing other stuff and still listening. While this album simply annoys me in many ways, all hopefully clearly explained in my "review". Not that i expected you to pull me down on my opinion on this album though, i just wrote that incase certain fanboys in the J.K thread would throw a fit again and call me deaf for not being able to listen to music or something. You made some interesting points though. Get on soulseek some time also! |
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Okai I see,.. i get on slsk every few weeks.. ill see when i get back ! |
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like yoghurt thrown onto a spike mat that's poetry right there |
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why yoghurt? |
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there were several thick-ish fluids i could think of at the same time, but only one of them was appropriate for the conversation |
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hehe. given this a few listens. really really like/d geometry, but wasn't too excited due to the prolonged hype/leak/samples. for the most part i really like volume 1. a few of tracks here and there bore me, but tracks like soulflute/girl/sakura/can't remember come across as totally awesome for me. and it surprised me as well, how much i was enjoying it. and volume 2 is sick. so overall, i'm really happy with this release. i have a feeling the only reason people aren't liking this is because of the sega font. |
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might be more enjoyable if dblue_Glitch VST wasn't used |
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also, good work Fah - totally agree with you |
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why dblue_Glitch? it sounds like he used a number of things for effects on this album. |
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Like the IDM preset? |
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Man I hate when people use glitch as a reason for not liking something, its such bullshit, its an effect...its like me saying I hate distortion. I personally don't use it since I write on my mac side, but really man shut the fuck up. I can render files down and cut up the sample and repeat copy and paste over and over again by hand then slap on a lofi effect, but why would I when I could use glitch. I think its the way you use it that counts. I've heard people do some awesome stuff with it. If you want to talk about originality then quit using that same excuse "he used db glitch therefore it sucks" nonsense sorry I'm in a bad mood |
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Actually, cutting up and pasting etc gives a different effect than dBlue Glitch. This plugin has a certain sound to it that you can pick out of any other 'glitch', and mostly people sneak in the modulator effect, which immediately gives away that it's that plugin again. But i agree, it's quite dull to call a track shit when it has dBlue glitch, but i can also understand why people would dislike it... Maybe they're heard the plugin too much already and are sick of it, or people like to hear an artist/musician actually putting some effort in their music instead of using an automaton like Glitch. |
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i tried dblue glitch but i didnt find the results very inspiring.. |
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This is actually where i personally think "Oh God, that guy is completely all over everything that gives him automatic access to something that can make random chaos of a good piece of music" haha. Like, from now on, all the new tracks Devine makes, have you thinking "did he write that himself? or did he use that plugin?". Which is then a case of 'do you care about what he uses, or what it sounds like?'. If an artist/musician uses the 64 step sequencer, which usually ends up in a repetition of the same glitch effects, i personally stop listening, eventhough they sound perfect with the rest, i like my glitch like an endless random unpredictable assault. |
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I like this album. The hate- seems unjustified to me. People here don't dig on IDM anymore or something? |
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no we hate anyone listening to it and we hate anyone hating on the haters |
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nah i'm just teasin' at 5 am but this jega album is just so fucking boring imo |
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:( |
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richard devine = dblue glitch n00b |
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is there anything richard devine will not try and sell? he's like the fucking microsoft paperclip. |
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i think it's pretty good. it is a bit dated, and it is spotty, but being dated isn't so bad always. i had a hard time with the BOC DJ scratch effect track and some moments were better than others, but there are some really cool, well produced moments also. Nice pads and textures, the beats are intricate without getting wanky at all, everything feels lush. 3.9/5 i understand hating on the glitch tho. it's the a&d revolution. in a post-quaristice scene, any cutting, splicing, or otherwise manipulating off the audio after it has been recorded to track from the sequencer is not allowed, especially not with a vst. where is richard devine? when was his last album? otto von scirach is making porno bass satan music. schematic is gone, quaristice is out, glitch is dead. r. devine and otto forgot that the melody is important. the a&d revolution, safe as fuck. never acid again, but no, forever acid again. |
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