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LOL Just figured this out. Analord = a roland And the synth is V-synth. Was looking into maybe getting a V-synth myself and after learning more about it it's obvious. Maybe even spotted a video featuring Richard himself under the name Jamie Dawe: http://www.roland.co.uk/vsynthgtpatchvote/jamie_d.asp Though not sure about this. It's a pretty funny joke i think :) Making everybody beleive analord is all analogue (appart from the obvious pcm drumcomputers on it) with all the analogue equipment pictures on the vinyl etc haha I allways wondered how the hell did he fuck up all that analogue equipment in such a way to make it sound so digitally flat, especially evident on the chosen lords cd, on vinyl rips i heard it's a bit more hidden because of the bad quality rips and the vinyl itself offcourse. Ohyeah and I also know which synth Selected Ambient Works II is made on :) This one has been my long quest as it's my favorite electronic music by far, have been searching for 15 years now and finally found it. It's also used a lot on I care because you do. Also found the drumcomputer used on I care because you do and richard d james album. It's very doable to make this kind of music with this equipment. I'll maybe tell these 2 later. Don't know which sampler he used for those older albums though, maybe a Roland W30 or S-something, but I don't really care myself. |
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Btw not to discrespect aphex twin in any way though. Love his music and have done so for 15 years. Have the most respect for aphex of all electronic music producers. |
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Rushup Edge was done on a Casio SK1 and it wasn't even circuit bent |
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Ohyeah and just in case anybody's interested. Boards of canada seems mostly Ensoniq equipment to me, especially ASR10 / EPS 16+ Heavily using the onboard effects, including later the waveboy effects disks. Autechre also use the ASR10 / EPS16+ with waveoy effects disks (waveboy effects disks they made up big bullshit story in sos interview about some nerd writing custom software for them lol) And they run DX11 through it. My favorite album by them amber is done in the above way. I don't remember why but I also though they may have used a roland D50, though this may be wrong memory by me because i can't really think of a sound right now that is the D50, but i have bad memory anyhow. Later albums where the sound goes shit they use a nord, i didn't care about that so didn't analyse further. |
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oh and forget about that video beeing aphex :) just watched again. but analord = roland v-synth |
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analord = gewfew |
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offcourse rushup edge also done on v-synth |
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no it wasn't. i told you that it was done on a stock Casio SK-1. he sampled his own farts for the bass |
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actually i do find this interesting, OHHHH I JSUT HEARD A LOUD THUNDER.... MUMMY! |
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looks like there a storm brewing! I think with all the processing and various mixers etc, even if you used the same synths as your favorite electronic artists, it would never sound the same |
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My point isn't to sound thesame. And the processing /effects etc is all inside the V-synth. I'm not planning on making music like richard. I don't even like rushup edge, i'm impressed by it yes but don't like how it sounds. I do like analord mostly though, but won't make music like analord. And not even sure about getting a V-synth myself. But do hope the people who do like certain sounds on the analord / tuss series or processing etc etc will see it's the V-synth they're looking for, and not go spend much time figuring out which analog synth a certain sound may be comming from, or sequencer technique or effect or whatever. Waste of time for people trying to make music. I personally think it's stupid / asocial / fear driven that aphex doesn't tell his equipment but i bet he himself thinks it's funny. Perhaps if he told more often and even shared some knowledge on how to use it he himself would have more interesting electronic music to listen to. |
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Ah i don't only think those things about him not telling which equipment he uses. I can understand it aswell. And in his situation i may very well have done thesame. Still, not telling is not exactly helping other people. I care because you do should've come with an equipment list for more value to the title. |
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we're macho here on xltronic. |
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fascinating |
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"I personally think it's stupid / asocial / fear driven that aphex doesn't tell his equipment but i bet he himself thinks it's funny." from an interview: Future Music: What pisses you off about the current music scene? Aphex Twin: Too many sheep and not enough shepherds. Let's all sit back and have a long hard think, then make something different! We can all do it, surely? |
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how on earth did you come to the conclusion that that was afx in that dreary vsynth video. what an ugly synth |
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I took that back allready. Just happened to watch it while writing this and thought hey. Took it back after more thorough look. Don't think it's an ugly synth myself btw. Powerfull is what comes to my mind. |
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yeah that's bullshit. one of his own excuses for not telling, maybe he even half beleives it himself. it's mainly fear of people copying him i guess. which i can uderstand, but it's not very nice is it. |
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Wow, not to just be a hater yo, but this thread has really depressed me. Feeling some sort of self-satisfaction that you have allegedly worked out how RDJ created some of his sounds. I'm a producer myself, but I really don't give a fuck. I just enjoy listening to the music. Sometimes I might think 'Ooh that production technique is interesting, how did he do that?', but I don't then analyze the fuck out of it, then go on a quest to find out the ins and outs of it, then debunk it to make myself feel like his pedestal is reachable to me. Then keeping secrets on how he made other sounds, like we'll now all worship you and beg for you to let us in on this sacred knowledge. No album should come with an equipment list. Why should it? So you can shit all over it then rip it off. mdv, you're a fucking clown mate. |
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That video was draz. |
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and besides that. electronic music is one half thought, other half interaction with the equipment. and nobody knows this better than richard himself it seems to me. so if you take that statement as him saying equipment has nothing to do with it that's bullshit. but indeed it's stupid of people if they were to use thesame equipment as aphex to deliberately try to copy him. but otherwise that statement is nonsense. if for instance aphex made baroque music with a violin, and i wish to do something radically new thought it all over about deeper essence of music etc and i wish to write it for violin, yet i don't know what this instrument is called. then richard doesn't tell me it's called a violin so instead of making music i'm searching and searching for this instrument. that's what the real effect is. the other effect is that there are indeed also people who wish to copy aphex twin. not telling his equipment is effective in shielding his music and making it more unique, giving him more money and perhaps more fame / respect? these are fear driven selfish reasons. though he would've gotten different respect from helping other people make music. Great composers in the past were often also teachers and still we all remember beethoven, bach, prokofiev, messiaen, etc |
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you should probably talk to a doctor about these thoughts you have been having |
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I'm so glad that RDJ would just totally ignore you're bullshit about all those composers being teachers, and just continue to be a musical enigma. An enigma you'll never fully be able to comprehend. What the fucking fuck does he owe you...or anyone? |
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md_geist i did not analyse the fuck out of analord i analysed the fuck out of selected ambient works II why? because that's how my mind works and i have listened to it a LOT because i like it a LOT. now i've been searching for a long time myself for the instrument i wish to use for my own musical ideas. these are not small musical ideas they are very very deeply thought out over many many years. much deeper than the compositions of selected ambient works. i'm more classical oriented and study just intonation / microtonality. when i want something i go for it, so i see it as perfectly valid to want to figure out which synth was used for saw 2. it's not like richard made the synth, he only made music on it. and as for albums not comming with equipment lists, yes your reasons are those of fear of people ripping you off. why do you care if people use thesame instrument you do? are you afraid you're not a good enough composer? and even if people do, if you love your own music it would only mean more good music in the world which is a good thing right? or if you're afraid someone will make bad music with thesame equipment than well you made good music with it right? |
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md_geist i do comprehend richards music. how can you tell what i'm able to comprehend or not? and i'm not saying anybody owes anybody else anything. i'm just saying it would have been nice and good for the world. and i personally don't like that he doesn't tell. now are you trying to tell me what i can or cannot personally think?? |
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''now i've been searching for a long time myself for the instrument i wish to use for my own musical ideas. these are not small musical ideas they are very very deeply thought out over many many years. [b]much deeper than the compositions of selected ambient works[/b].'' mdv Wow, you're such a twat. |
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Really, what I meant was that musicians should do their own thing, be shephards, instead of trying to copy someone else. It's his advice. These men invented the music (braindance), if we don't wanna let it stagnate, it's about time we reinvent our perception of what braindance is. Come up with something new. A " long hard think" is what is necessary. |
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english isn't my first language, either |
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LOL Just figured this out. mdv = Marek's Disease Virus Two experiments in commercial broiler chickens vaccinated with herpesvirus of turkeys (HVT) and challenged with Marek's disease virus (MDV) investigated the effects of the vaccination-to-challenge interval (VCI) on vaccinal protection against Marek's disease, and the kinetics of MDV and HVT load in the spleen and feather dander determined using real-time quantitative polymerase chain reaction. Was looking into maybe getting an commercial broiler chickens vaccinated with herpesvirus of turkeys, myself and after learning more about it it's obvious. Maybe even spotted a video featuring MDV himself under the name Edarem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFyP2yP-FWU Though not sure about anything. |
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enough talk, if you can't find the perfect piece of music and you are so unsatisfied, then take your ideas and write this yourself, if it's better than the twin , then we will congratulate you. if it's shit we will tell ya, no problemo |
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What i just made clear is that using thesame synth is not copying someone. That's ridiculous. How many V-synths are made? Oh analord uses the V-synth, everybody else destroy theirs? Richard himself relies heavily on equipment made by Roland. Roland deserves part of the credit for Aphex Twins music! And why deny other people thesame equipment or knowledge of this equipment / instrument? Anyhow this was not what i started this thread about. I hope in time this knowledge helps some people make music and enjoy making music. Also for me it's a good laugh and interesting knowing now what synth analord used in contrast with the pics on the vinyls. I'm off for now you people are waaaay too negative. |
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lol really great edarem vid though :) |
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analord was made on a computer.... |
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i have no idea what could be new and exciting for music, how you could evolve a form of music like braindance. I mean first what did that genre evolve from? like detroit techno, or techno in general? is Tuss braindance? |
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I'm way too negative. You're right. You're right about everything. It's just me being negative. You're actually a really great guy. You seem really cool, and not self-obsessed or arrogant at all. It's me. The problems all me. Now, lets crack on... RDJ said in a Japanese interview that he did some field recording of an electronic sunroof and used some of these sounds in 'Mt. St. Michel'. I'll tell you what...I've got a sunroof in my car. And I'm going to bloody well use it in my next track. Easy. Fucking easy shit. Exposed!!! LOL!!! |
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wait what does that mean, how did he record a sunroof? what is this field recording thing? |
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"you're a fucking clown, mate" xlt quote of the week |
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hahaha, complete crap |
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i dislike an ewok being maltreated this way |
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I'd call it braindance, but I'm sure people would disagree. But then I'm willing to call most of this stuff braindance, and just get over board with all these definitions. Glitch, glitch hop, drill 'n' bass, IDM, ambient, etc, etc. Braindance should be anything that'd give your head a spin. Something refreshing. Really we should just get rid of all the idolatry and intellectual analysis, and throw the whole damn structure to hell. No more artists, just music... Then we'd begin by making something new. If he held in mind that it'd be something new - not necessarily better, or more advanced - wouldn't it be the only kind of guiding principle we'd ever need? |
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Richard D James wrote a song about me. |
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lol |
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That is what happens if you listen to Flim backwards at the wrong speed. Richard showed me. We were wearing protective ear muffs thankfully. Grant wasn't impressed. Me and Richard high fived and had a cup of tea and he gave me a lift to the tube station in his tank. |
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can his tank shoot |
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shut up for chrissake |
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the 'aim' of the 'idm community' has been misguided since its conception, it has values in all the wrong places |
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The field recording a sunroof thing from a . It's by far the most honest and open aphex twin interview i've ever read. He starts off by taking the piss as usual, but the interviewer really gets his attention with some great questions. Anyone read it b4? |
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this is the most retarded thread I have ever read. |
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