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freqy
on 2009-05-26 15:25 [#02293570]
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anyone familiar with these ?
i've been using bidule for a while .
just wondered if anyone on here can help freqy?
im trying to send a repetitive osc ( open sound control) message without using midi as a trigger. ( cause midi is as accurate as a drunken blind headless chicken with out a map or compass or location to travel too )
maybe an oscillator to trigger an osc creator? But i cant make it happens!!!
i need sent one after the other :
osc message 1 osc message 2 osc message 1 osc message 2 osc messgae 1 osc message 2
Somemany on here are very hip n happening ... teach freqy the ways of the force , maybe a little layout he can use so i can destroy the death star.
Peace an freqyloves :X
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 15:30 [#02293571]
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metronome to a bang?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 15:32 [#02293572]
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Ah sorry didn't look at the order thing bit.
Metronome to a counter containing however many osc messages there are then a bang to each osc? Ill post a pic in a second.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 15:43 [#02293576]
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This circuit bangs the two osc thingy things at the end (which will be your send messages) alternately every half a second when the toggle is on. I don't know what bidule is though so this might not be of any help to you.
To change the rate at which they are triggered just change the value after 'metro' if you want to have 'live' control over this rate with a dial i'll show you that too.
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 15:45 [#02293577]
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sounds cool
yeah man a metronome ( a bang is a trigger right?) so metronome hi low hi low
hi = osc msg 1 low = osc msg 2 your a pd user? i've not used that yet, only bidule.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 15:46 [#02293578]
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I just use max. I have no clue what pd or bidule are!
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 15:49 [#02293579]
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wow thanks ,
bidule is a prog like max msp and ( modules that you can connect together)
can you upload that path/layout so i can try it .....i will stroke your hairs and feed you candyfloss and marshmellows via the internet pixels that join us even if you cant.
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 15:50 [#02293580]
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oh right so this is max msp .....cool the daddy of all module thingys .......PD is ( pure data) a baby version of max msp ....bidule is like a long lost cousin .....v v v is another but ive yet to try.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 15:53 [#02293582]
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Of course! Do you need two outputs, one for each message? if you know the messages I will put them in place of the phony OSC 1 and OSC 2 boxes. I will also add a dial to control bang rate.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 15:55 [#02293584]
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Also what file format do PD and bidule read? Can they open .maxpat files?
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 15:59 [#02293585]
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yeah man thanks so much !
the osc message i need is on my other machine i wil have to go to it and switch over might take me a few moments. to find out the exact osc message that i need to trigger. it uses data 1 and data 2 colums .....i go get jpeg to show you what i it is
freqzx
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 16:01 [#02293586]
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hmm not sure .....PD is a family member of max , from what i read on the internet....
but i do have max msp i down loaded it the other day.
i'll go to my other machine ..... and post you a picture of the osc message. :P
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-05-26 16:16 [#02293590]
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Plogue Bidule has a good messageboard on their site, this one dude answers all questions in good time.
Bidule is awesome, i make a lot of cool drum machines and effects with it.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-05-26 16:20 [#02293595]
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vvvv is nice though, made it do motion tracking with fiducial markers today, but i think vvvv is more useful for processing of visual stuff, for dsp and sound i would use max/msp
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 16:23 [#02293596]
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hi
my other machine decided to to die on me tonight ( typical)
From my memory
there is an osc adress /position/xy data1 = 1 data2 =.5
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-05-26 16:32 [#02293600]
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is there any video creating software like vvvv for mac with capabilities like that program?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-05-26 16:35 [#02293601]
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Jitter would be your answer, it's integrated into max/MSP by default nowadays
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-05-26 16:38 [#02293602]
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damn i need to learn max
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 16:41 [#02293604]
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Fah do you want some simple Max synths?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 16:41 [#02293605]
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Version 5.
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 16:47 [#02293607]
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Indeksical could i try your layout. anyway you could upload it?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-05-26 16:52 [#02293609]
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Pulseclock; it's actually pretty easy, just think logically and check out what every pin does and keep the documentation and reference guides at hand.
Indeksical; i'd love to! But i don't have version 5 of max :(
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 17:10 [#02293611]
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if you're in max you might want to do the time messages sent at MSP rate, rather than max message rate (bangs get sent to the processor way slower than msp audio rate stuff). Use a phasor for the clock [instead of metro] and >~ set at 0.5 so that every ramp will send a response. i think the edge~ object is useful too. Sorry if thats a bit imprecise- its been a while since i've used it and my memory is a bit foggy but using msp for timing is much more stable. . . worth reading researching the max list.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-05-26 17:16 [#02293612]
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Max 5 = 700$
damn.
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 17:51 [#02293614]
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thanks lupus yonderboy. i wish i had your brain in my head and that it was connected to my hands . i would cover me/us in soap and we'd role around the floor.... then wed make a max msp layout together and then id feed us marshmellows and candy floss.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 17:53 [#02293615]
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lupus is right, the values of a ramp will be sent quicker than a bang. Is this important freq?
What I'm understanding is that you just want the value '1' to be first message and '0.5' to be the second right? no other data?
I'll post as is but to be honest I doubt it'll be compatible.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 17:57 [#02293616]
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freq.maxpat
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freqy
on 2009-05-26 18:02 [#02293619]
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wow ,thanks indeksical i shall try this tomorrow when i get my pc working again.
i can hopefully change the parameters, i'll figure it out. :P
i love you's ..........
freqy sends the fluffiest pinkest candfloss and softest marshmellows to indeksical.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-26 18:07 [#02293620]
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No problem!
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-05-27 02:45 [#02293640]
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goddamn, this is some advanced haxorz shitz going on. XD
pulseclock: haven't used vvvv, but if you want to do on-the-fly animation things, you should try Processing. It's free and much easier to get into than you might expect from a text based language, also it's somewhat more flexible than these blueprint style connect-the-dots environments. For video (as in movie file) manipulation/playback, it's much slower than jitter though.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-05-27 07:27 [#02293665]
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oh for mac there's also quartz composer, this might be for you maybe? haven't tried it but seems to work with 3d things and video, and is more like max/pd/vvvv. Free too, but you need to register an apple developer account.
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freqy
on 2009-05-27 08:47 [#02293684]
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thanks indeksical
msp is soo rad. its allot better than bidule
i feel so hip using it. i feel like im in the 70's wearing flares and driving a colourful vw beatle. :)
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